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Post by hummingbirdstones on May 28, 2022 22:08:40 GMT -5
How the heck do I post a pic from Flickr Just the url link shows. Scroll down in this post to see detailed photo instructions that I posted.
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Post by markb on May 29, 2022 1:57:21 GMT -5
Okay, well I'm not as sophisticated as some of you with my designated lapidary area in my garage, but this is what I have for now. I was pretty happy to see my grits show up today, rather than on Tuesday. Hope to get my first vibe batch going soon! Also, my vibe came 2 days ago too! Not sure where I'll put it, depends on how much noise it makes I guess. My Lortone 33B barrels have been rolling along since February, atop an old microwave cabinet w/storage underneath. My not so savvy electrical setup, but Zipley our Internet provider took both outlets from the only plug on this wall, so I plugged a second surge protector into the first, so I could easily turn the rotary tumbler on and off. Not sure how safe this is or if it is even a problem, doesn't seem like it would matter. After I get things arranged more, I'll fasten the strip(s) to the wall for stability. I also have a plug available in my garage ceiling for an automatic door opener, so maybe could run an extension cord from it over to the tumbler area. Who out there has electrician experience and can advise me? Was able to set up a mobile tool cabinet after many years of trying to locate lost tools, and it will share functionality between organizing my tools and organizing my lapidary equipment. And last my 10" Hi-Tech saw, that currently sits on our coffee table in the living room amongst many containers of rock friends, but on its way to the garage very soon. I decided on the 10" because I thought I could use it to both slab and trim rocks. I've already modified the saw vise so it can accomodate larger rocks and cut larger slabs. Also, you can use water as a coolant for this one, which since it will be in my garage is a better plan than using oil. I'm not against oil cooled saws, but think they should have a hood to contain splash and frankly, I can't afford or justify what they are costing now days. I'll probably move the vibe to the floor and put the saw atop the microwave cart, which will allow me to plug it into a different electrical plug and solve that problem. Lastly, all I'll have to do is focus on cleaning out and organizing the rest of the garage by getting rid of a bunch of old stuff. Once all that's gone, I'll have more room to move (and room for more rocks!)
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Post by markb on May 29, 2022 2:02:05 GMT -5
How the heck do I post a pic from Flickr Just the url link shows. Scroll down in this post to see detailed photo instructions that I posted. hummingbirdstones Robin, thank you so much for helping me figure this out!
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Post by liveoak on May 29, 2022 9:40:16 GMT -5
I hesitated to post my work space, as this is under the "Tumbling" sub-forum & although I tumble a little , it's not my main interest. But then after seeing Lee's fine shop with not a tumbler in sight, I was inspired. First I have to say that my original lapidary bench is outside on the back deck. We live in a stilt house, so it's basically out the back door. No fancy sink, but a separate hose faucet is on the opposite side of the deck, so cleanup is simply done by running the hose. Seeing as we live in NW Florida, it's not the cold that stops work there, like others talk about in the winter, it's the heat of the sun in the summer. So I rig up an awning over the deck, in the hot months when I'm out there. First up is my main bench - An old 50's Craftsman Flat Lap, My water cooled diamond band saw, and a 1" X 30" inexpensive belt sander that I can use also with water / sponge etc for trying to polish things like river jade !
My Rock saw is on the opposite side of the deck. A 10 " MK Tile saw originally, a beast of a machine We purchased it off of Craigslist pretty cheap & my husband did a complete restoration on it, bearings, paint & all. With the addition of a good lapidary diamond blade , AND a vise, it's pretty good. The photo doesn't show it but we also have a water coolant system in place now, with a plastic tub under the saw that has a drain to a lower bucket & pump. I'll put the before photo too, just for fun.
Lastly is my newest addition that is an indoor lapidary bench with a KN 6" Cabber, and lots of other discs, Inland glass grinder for preforms, dop station, etc. I can't saw how nice it is to have this unit in the house in climate control ( AC) And I've found that although you can make a mess, generally it's containable. We purchased an inexpensive stainless steel kitchen work table to put it on, so a little water seepage, isn't a crisis as it would be on a wood bench.
At the moment my "activity" room is a little crowded as I share the space with my husband & his small machine shop on the opposite side of the room, BUT that's soon to change, as we're building him a separate 10' X 18' shop, under the house. As Lee Rockoonz pointed out, these kind of jobs take WAY longer than you ever think & take lots more work then you can imagine ! But we're getting there - painting the inside this weekend. You can also see partially my jewelers bench opposite the cab unit- but that's another story. Anyway, that's my show & tell , thanks for looking. Patty
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Post by hummingbirdstones on May 29, 2022 9:41:06 GMT -5
Scroll down in this post to see detailed photo instructions that I posted. hummingbirdstones Robin, thank you so much for helping me figure this out! My pleasure, Mark!
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Post by Rockoonz on May 29, 2022 10:32:01 GMT -5
liveoak we have tumblers too, but they currently are not unpacked. From 40# to a 3# Lot-o, and many in between. This fall we hope to begin to run them again. We have a 12' x 20' outbuilding that we plan to stretch to 32' long that currently contains rock saws and storage, that we want to use for saws, tumblers, wood working, and steel fabrication. A 15' x 20'ish shade roof is planned between it and the 25'ish dry van box we put in for additional storage. Time and affordable building materials are the only thing stopping us, when I return from up north I'm taking on a PT job to help with the money part.
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Post by liveoak on May 29, 2022 10:46:27 GMT -5
Time and affordable building materials are the only thing stopping us More space is always a good thing - but lets not get started on building materiel prices......
Never should have doubted you had tumblers - sounds like plenty, just not in the shop video.
My tumblers are under our house - stilt houses are good for providing the shaded extra storage .
Patty
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Post by Rockoonz on May 29, 2022 11:12:55 GMT -5
liveoak if you are framing or building with wood, prices are predicted to drop soon. I am using steel mostly, and have been buying stuff I can take apart.
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Post by liveoak on May 29, 2022 11:16:33 GMT -5
I hope you're right about wood prices Lee, we need to put a floor down & that sure would make it a LOT easier.
The only problem with re-using stuff, is it takes twice the time. We've done similar here removing old decks, etc on our property - but time seems hard to come by nowadays.
Patty
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 16:43:56 GMT -5
liveoakThanks for sharing Patty! You have quite the array of equipment. That before and after picture is crazy! I don’t have an eye for seeing what something could be, you and your husband did a great job with that!
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Post by markb on May 29, 2022 17:16:44 GMT -5
Wow, awesome rebuild on the saw. I'm glad you shared because you can always show others ideas they can utilize themselves. Thanks liveoak .
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Post by Benathema on May 29, 2022 19:05:39 GMT -5
My not so savvy electrical setup, but Zipley our Internet provider took both outlets from the only plug on this wall, so I plugged a second surge protector into the first, so I could easily turn the rotary tumbler on and off. Not sure how safe this is or if it is even a problem, doesn't seem like it would matter. After I get things arranged more, I'll fasten the strip(s) to the wall for stability. I also have a plug available in my garage ceiling for an automatic door opener, so maybe could run an extension cord from it over to the tumbler area. Who out there has electrician experience and can advise me? So I have "some" experience, an apprentice at an electric company for a few months, and just being interested in general. In a world where money is no object, having lines run for dedicated outlets where you need them, is an ideal answer. However, I've done a fair bit of daisy-chaining with off the shelf components. I can tell you with my cabinet with all the tumblers going, fans, and the light on, that the cabinet draws about 200 watts. That's not a lot. I'd have to look up how to convert that to amps for AC, its more complicated than volts*amps=watts of DC. Point being, for your equipment there, you're not pulling much current at all. The cheaper extension cords and power strips are usually good for 13 amps, and you're way below that. Many of the breakers for normal outlets are around 15-20 amps. Enough that to pop them would take running the microwave, coffee pot, and maybe something else all at the same time on one circuit. Don't ask too much from your 13 amp extension cords, in general. This garage here only has 1 real plug on the wall near the door, and 2 drop boxes. I've had to get creative with getting power to different places in the garage. I know which outlets and lights are on the different breakers, so I know what demand I'm asking from each and not overloading just one circuit cause it's convenient. For your idea of running a cord from your garage door opener over to a power strip, I'd say that's fine for this application. Try to make it as solid state as you can, not tripping over it or it swinging in the breeze. All the connections fit tight, and be mindful to stay within it's limits. If I have a high power item to use, like a vacuum, or other high current device, I go straight to the plug on the wall, not through my daisy-chain setup for my cabinet. That outlet and the wires in the wall are rated/sized for the breaker protecting it. On paper at least. In short, a lot to say, just to say it's probably not a big deal.
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Post by liveoak on May 29, 2022 19:12:06 GMT -5
Thanks markb, that's exactly why I posted, to encourage people. It's not always about throwing $$ at new machinery. Many many lapidary artists have repurposed, or built their own. I'm just fortunate enough to have a husband that likes to rebuild & repurpose tools :-) Patty
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Post by markb on May 29, 2022 21:59:07 GMT -5
My not so savvy electrical setup, but Zipley our Internet provider took both outlets from the only plug on this wall, so I plugged a second surge protector into the first, so I could easily turn the rotary tumbler on and off. Not sure how safe this is or if it is even a problem, doesn't seem like it would matter. After I get things arranged more, I'll fasten the strip(s) to the wall for stability. I also have a plug available in my garage ceiling for an automatic door opener, so maybe could run an extension cord from it over to the tumbler area. Who out there has electrician experience and can advise me? So I have "some" experience, an apprentice at an electric company for a few months, and just being interested in general. In a world where money is no object, having lines run for dedicated outlets where you need them, is an ideal answer. However, I've done a fair bit of daisy-chaining with off the shelf components. I can tell you with my cabinet with all the tumblers going, fans, and the light on, that the cabinet draws about 200 watts. That's not a lot. I'd have to look up how to convert that to amps for AC, its more complicated than volts*amps=watts of DC. Point being, for your equipment there, you're not pulling much current at all. The cheaper extension cords and power strips are usually good for 13 amps, and you're way below that. Many of the breakers for normal outlets are around 15-20 amps. Enough that to pop them would take running the microwave, coffee pot, and maybe something else all at the same time on one circuit. Don't ask too much from your 13 amp extension cords, in general. This garage here only has 1 real plug on the wall near the door, and 2 drop boxes. I've had to get creative with getting power to different places in the garage. I know which outlets and lights are on the different breakers, so I know what demand I'm asking from each and not overloading just one circuit cause it's convenient. For your idea of running a cord from your garage door opener over to a power strip, I'd say that's fine for this application. Try to make it as solid state as you can, not tripping over it or it swinging in the breeze. All the connections fit tight, and be mindful to stay within it's limits. If I have a high power item to use, like a vacuum, or other high current device, I go straight to the plug on the wall, not through my daisy-chain setup for my cabinet. That outlet and the wires in the wall are rated/sized for the breaker protecting it. On paper at least. In short, a lot to say, just to say it's probably not a big deal. Hey thanks for the feedback, Benathema ! Since I'm not really pulling that much power, then I'll probably leave the one power switch plugged into the other for my 2 tumblers to run off. I'll be putting my saw on the front wall of my garage, so it will have its own dedicated outlet, which I didn't mention the first time. Based on what you said, I'd guess it wouldn't interfere much with the tumblers and I'd be okay. BTW, I checked out your speed cutting of mushrooms video and it freaked out my mind!!
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Post by perkins17 on Aug 19, 2022 11:02:24 GMT -5
I thought I'd bump this. I'm really interested in seeing some other members' shops. I might even do an updated picture. Im hoping to see some new ones today. -Nicholas
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Post by Rockoonz on Aug 19, 2022 11:28:04 GMT -5
I should probably do a storage and saw shop tour one day soon, so many things in process right now competing with hacienda and property for attention, in addition to the new PT job.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 22:28:06 GMT -5
Thanks! I’ve got way more time invested into the setup than I have spent messing with rocks lol! Well now that its set up you can reverse that!
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Post by khara on Mar 21, 2023 15:51:06 GMT -5
Funny liveoak , I have an almost identical board wedged under the front of my Kingsley North as well!🤓👍 And I never did use their brackets to screw it down to the table. It doesn’t move at all, even being propped up on that board for drainage.
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Post by liveoak on Mar 22, 2023 6:03:19 GMT -5
How funny khara , Great minds think alike
I've taken to put it under the front when I'm done for the day/evening, when I flush clean water through it, so it drains better.
You're right with the table level, it doesn't move. But then I have mine on top of a yoga mat.
Patty
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