jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jul 5, 2022 5:55:10 GMT -5
Sawed this one open on the 3rd...
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 5, 2022 7:26:14 GMT -5
Every time you post one of these "cobbles", I'm in awe of the microcosm within each one! Definitely worthy of 4th of July material!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 5, 2022 9:00:01 GMT -5
Every time you post one of these "cobbles", I'm in awe of the microcosm within each one! Definitely worthy of 4th of July material! If you ever get a chance to collect at Lake Falcon please do it. One day I timed myself on about 50 feet along one of the many staircased rocky high water shorelines. I gave myself 15 minutes to pick the best I could find. The top row is agates, the 2nd row is woods, the third row is jaspers and agates and unknowns. Most of them are pretty nice material. In 15 minutes and this was along public shoreline and not unpicked private property. About 35 pounds...:
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 5, 2022 10:12:47 GMT -5
Every time you post one of these "cobbles", I'm in awe of the microcosm within each one! Definitely worthy of 4th of July material! If you ever get a chance to collect at Lake Falcon please do it. One day I timed myself on about 50 feet along one of the many staircased rocky high water shorelines. I gave myself 15 minutes to pick the best I could find. The top row is agates, the 2nd row is woods, the third row is jaspers and agates and unknowns. Most of them are pretty nice material. In 15 minutes and this was along public shoreline and not unpicked private property. About 35 pounds...: That's awesome! While out at Railroad Buttes here in SD, I was talking with both Brent (starguy) and Jonathan (holajonathan) when they each came out to visit and we were hounding the Buttes. We all concurred that a person could take a shovel full of rocks...from just about any spot out there, and the rocks were going to polish extremely well in the tumbler. The issue I have out here is the vast majority of the rocks (in MY opinion) are "boring"...so I don't see the point. That's why I find it fascinating to see the variety of "cool" rocks you come up with down there!
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Post by jamesp on Jul 5, 2022 10:46:54 GMT -5
To be honest I sent the best batch out first and either shared or tumbled them, these are the 2nds jasoninsd. A fellow can work his way up to Laredo and really score on some pretty cobbles. Not many venture up that way where the river is narrow and covered with brush with trafficking. As you work you way upriver the cobbles get bigger and bigger but that area is all in giant ranches and govt' lands. Planning to go back out perhaps with a boat. Should have better skills at picking better ones this go. I bet you had a blast with those 2 fellows. You folks out west have it made with those killer rocks y'all have. I did make contact with the ranch owner this weekend. He gave me the thumbs up to collect on their properties again. Am pumped... Unfortunately he did not mention bringing others with me. I hate to impose, most of the lands are his cousin's and uncle's for which he can not speak for.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 5, 2022 12:41:29 GMT -5
To be honest I sent the best batch out first and either shared or tumbled them, these are the 2nds jasoninsd . A fellow can work his way up to Laredo and really score on some pretty cobbles. Not many venture up that way where the river is narrow and covered with brush with trafficking. As you work you way upriver the cobbles get bigger and bigger but that area is all in giant ranches and govt' lands. Planning to go back out perhaps with a boat. Should have better skills at picking better ones this go. I bet you had a blast with those 2 fellows. You folks out west have it made with those killer rocks y'all have. I did make contact with the ranch owner this weekend. He gave me the thumbs up to collect on their properties again. Am pumped... Unfortunately he did not mention bringing others with me. I hate to impose, most of the lands are his cousin's and uncle's for which he can not speak for. I get the "private property" aspect. There's a LOT of people who go out hounding/looking for Fairburn Agates. There's only so much National Grassland - which means it's picked over pretty well...and then there's a TON of private property. I'm SUPER blessed that my father-in-law has been a farmer/rancher for the last 60 years. He knows just about every property owner on the eastern side of the state (not quite...but it's gotta be dang close! LOL). He's gotten me permission to go onto lands that not many - if any - other people get to go on. He's got two new places for us to go out to in the next couple weeks. One is along the Cheyenne River - an area that doesn't see any people...and the other is property that leads into a canyon that I've wanted to get into for the last couple years. I did access the canyon once from the south side - again with his contact with the property owner on that side...but this time I'll be coming into the canyon from the north. I'm the same way with regards to taking someone else with me...unless I have prior approval, I won't do it. Most times I feel lucky enough they let me on...I don't generally want to push it by asking for others as well. I really did have SO much fun getting to hang out with Brent and his wife for a day...and Jonathan, who stuck around for five days. The weather wasn't all that great while Jonathan was here...but we did get out for three of the days.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 6, 2022 9:25:30 GMT -5
Land owners are often happy to have rock collectors hunt their property jasoninsd. The last thing they care about is their excess rocks. They are often curious as to what the heck you are finding that brought you there in the first place. This often intrigues them enough to converse with you. I am a master suck-up lol. The local watering hole is a great place to meet land owners. so is the local landscape/gravel yard. If there is a bunch of work trucks in the parking lot with farm tools/fencing materials you are probably going to find farm owners. I bring a jar of tumbles from adjacent lands to show/give them. I ask if I can check their gates and report any dumping or trespassing activity. Check condition of fenced animals. Figure out some type of service you can offer. Tell them you will send tumbles of some of your findings. Do they have grandkids/kids that like polished rocks ? In south Texas you find lots of red and green rocks, the Latino folks with Mexican heritage like these colors because of the Mexican flag. Just be creative. You have a great personality and should perform well at sucking up ! Small towns often have family, word gets around and your name may get passed to other land owners. I had a kayak strapped to the top of the car. No one kayaks along the Rio so you stick out like a sore thumb to DEA and law enforcement and the whole town. Everyone knows you are visiting from another planet and often curious. I always invite any landowner that gave permission a steak meal or two in the evenings. This can really get your presence out there. The owner I first met in Zapata invited me to the water hole on their family night(like 20 people) and I had a several members inviting me. One of them tried to hook me up with his daughter omg. It sounds like you are already well connected and have permissions handed on a platter. No need for all this creative hustling. Having partners does make the trip much more pleasurable. I can get by being lonely if the rocks are nice though. I would love to have a dozen RTH members meet me out there. I thought about making a lease deal but Texas is just too far to drive to make it efficient. I believe a $1000/year would be enough to collect on a 1000 acres if you stayed away during deer season.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 6, 2022 17:33:34 GMT -5
Land owners are often happy to have rock collectors hunt their property jasoninsd . The last thing they care about is their excess rocks. They are often curious as to what the heck you are finding that brought you there in the first place. This often intrigues them enough to converse with you. I am a master suck-up lol. The local watering hole is a great place to meet land owners. so is the local landscape/gravel yard. If there is a bunch of work trucks in the parking lot with farm tools/fencing materials you are probably going to find farm owners. I bring a jar of tumbles from adjacent lands to show/give them. I ask if I can check their gates and report any dumping or trespassing activity. Check condition of fenced animals. Figure out some type of service you can offer. Tell them you will send tumbles of some of your findings. Do they have grandkids/kids that like polished rocks ? In south Texas you find lots of red and green rocks, the Latino folks with Mexican heritage like these colors because of the Mexican flag. Just be creative. You have a great personality and should perform well at sucking up ! Small towns often have family, word gets around and your name may get passed to other land owners. I had a kayak strapped to the top of the car. No one kayaks along the Rio so you stick out like a sore thumb to DEA and law enforcement and the whole town. Everyone knows you are visiting from another planet and often curious. I always invite any landowner that gave permission a steak meal or two in the evenings. This can really get your presence out there. The owner I first met in Zapata invited me to the water hole on their family night(like 20 people) and I had a several members inviting me. One of them tried to hook me up with his daughter omg. It sounds like you are already well connected and have permissions handed on a platter. No need for all this creative hustling. Having partners does make the trip much more pleasurable. I can get by being lonely if the rocks are nice though. I would love to have a dozen RTH members meet me out there. I thought about making a lease deal but Texas is just too far to drive to make it efficient. I believe a $1000/year would be enough to collect on a 1000 acres if you stayed away during deer season. Around here, most land owners aren't too excited to see "rock collectors"...only for the fact that a LOT of rock collectors in this area aren't in it for the love of rocks. They're only in it to find a Fairburn. Period. So...I don't consider a lot of them as "rock people". (That's not meant to sound snobby or elitist because I feel I'm different since I'm in it for anything interesting I can find.) When WE think "rock people", it generally brings to mind a certain type of mentality and attitude...and that same demeanor is missing with a lot of the people around here. Thus, the landowners don't want those type of people on their property...and it's difficult to get their "trust". So, it doesn't escape me how blessed I am to have my father-in-law there to "vouch" for me. I loved ALL your ideas about getting an "in" with the landowners! It's a sales call essentially! The best sales are done by taking an indirect route...finding some common ground (pun intended) or interest and then "steering" the conversation in the direction you want it to go... I never even considered a "time share" for hounding! That would be SO freakin' cool for those who can/will travel!!
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Post by markb on Jul 28, 2022 21:35:02 GMT -5
That's awesome! While out at Railroad Buttes here in SD, I was talking with both Brent (starguy) and Jonathan (holajonathan) when they each came out to visit and we were hounding the Buttes. We all concurred that a person could take a shovel full of rocks...from just about any spot out there, and the rocks were going to polish extremely well in the tumbler. The issue I have out here is the vast majority of the rocks (in MY opinion) are "boring"...so I don't see the point. That's why I find it fascinating to see the variety of "cool" rocks you come up with down there! Jason
Are the majority of RR Buttes rocks jaspers, Prairie Agates, or something else? Looking online I can't tell. Thanks, Mark
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Post by jasoninsd on Jul 28, 2022 22:05:49 GMT -5
That's awesome! While out at Railroad Buttes here in SD, I was talking with both Brent (starguy) and Jonathan (holajonathan) when they each came out to visit and we were hounding the Buttes. We all concurred that a person could take a shovel full of rocks...from just about any spot out there, and the rocks were going to polish extremely well in the tumbler. The issue I have out here is the vast majority of the rocks (in MY opinion) are "boring"...so I don't see the point. That's why I find it fascinating to see the variety of "cool" rocks you come up with down there! Jason
Are the majority of RR Buttes rocks jaspers, Prairie Agates, or something else? Looking online I can't tell. Thanks, Mark The simple answer is "yes"! LOL - There's jasper, Prairie Agate (which are actually jasper or chert...not agate), petrified wood, fossils... When you have some time, here's a thread of stuff I've found out at RR Buttes. It's one of the first threads I started when I first got into this hobby...so it's funny reading some of my first posts...I had NO clue what I was doing! Now...I just have a little more of a clue! LOL forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/92174/railroad-buttes-finds
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