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Post by berfle on Sept 12, 2019 16:16:13 GMT -5
Thanks rockjunquie It's all new so I haven't figured out yet how long it takes them to send it out. It's a print on demand publisher but based on some early feedback I'm thinking the turnaround will be about a week.
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Post by berfle on Sept 12, 2019 14:07:45 GMT -5
I've been teaching basic Intarsia classes at William Holland Lapidary School for over 10 years and I’m frequently asked if there are any books or literature on Stone Intarsia and the answer has always been no. Through the years, I’ve tried to remedy this with detailed class handouts but only those few in classes ever see this information. Over time, the size of the class handout continued to grow almost to the point of becoming, well... a book. So, starting with the comprehensive handout, I added a bunch more info and low and behold, a book appeared. So, if you're interested, check the following link.
www.blurb.com/b/9640224-introduction-to-stone-intarsia
Bill Boggs
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Post by berfle on Jun 23, 2019 10:38:38 GMT -5
We had the pleasure of meeting Jim Kaufman at his store/shop in Sedona in the mid 1990’s. He was very nice and accommodating and at the time had been teaching Intarsia classes in his Lapidary shop behind the store. I had just recently started learning to make Intarsia and was awed by getting to see his work in person. I recall that after seeing his work and then meeeting him I kinda felt like Wayne and Garth in the scenes from the Wayne's World movies... “We’re Not Worthy!”
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Post by berfle on Apr 10, 2019 20:57:25 GMT -5
Wonderful selection of materials and beautiful, detailed work!
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Post by berfle on Jan 12, 2019 8:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by berfle on Nov 12, 2018 19:58:44 GMT -5
Masterful job of curve-fitting!
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Post by berfle on Jun 26, 2018 8:04:15 GMT -5
Thank you berfle ! I must add the pieces you've showed in this thread are absolutely incredible! Thank you beefjello !
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Post by berfle on Jun 22, 2018 14:57:04 GMT -5
Rockoonz Bluesky78987 Anyone else make an intarsia piece? Could you post photos of the intarsia you have done? It would be instructive. Here's a few I did way back in the day.. Wow! Those are beautiful! beefjello these are GREAT examples of the kind of stuff I like to do. I call this “Rockhound Intarsia”. as it is using the creative nature of intarsia to showcase beautiful rocks... and those are indeed beautiful rocks👍
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Post by berfle on Jun 17, 2018 16:45:12 GMT -5
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Post by berfle on May 24, 2018 20:59:47 GMT -5
Mod: I noticed this mod on Youtube in videos by “vaproie“. It replaces the original drip pan height adjustment thumbscrew with a knobbed screw. I got the knob and a 1/4-20 machine screw at a hardware store. The screw’s head was cut off and the knob drilled out to accept it, then both were epoxied together. The round knob is comfortable and less fiddly. Vaproie’s setup does not reach out as far as mine, so I may need to cut it shorter This is a GREAT idea! Trying to raise and lower the pan with big hands/fingers is a problem.
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Post by berfle on May 24, 2018 18:56:06 GMT -5
berfle I wanted to know about using the faceting machine for intarsia. I have the Ray-Tech Shaw, but have never used it (another story). I recently bought the Al Sesona intarsia grinder, but it only gives the 90 degree angle --- and it does that very well. We are in the process of creating a 45 degree angler. At this point, I want that to make corners for intarsia frames. Not up to the Behnam intricacies yet. We figure that if we take off the corner/s of a cube destined to become a sphere, we will have a good start. Must true up the edge to 45 degrees, and we are almost there. Theoretically. Appreciate your experienced input. Thanks. Pat some of those articles have a lot of detail and photos showing use of the Raytech and should be able to get you started. Regarding the Sesona grinder, he does have small 30, 45 & 60 degree guides that sit on the shelf and facilitate grinding at those angles. He also makes a larger 45 deg guide that attaches in place of the shelf and permits mitreing slabs to be used in making stone boxes. Regarding the “45 deg angeler” you are making, is your intention to try to mitre the corners of the borders? This gets to be problematic because as you’re grinding a border piece to obtain a 45 deg angle you are also adjusting the length of the border piece. So in order for the corners to fit perfect and show no visible joints, you end up having to make 8 separate 45 degree grinds (2 for each border piece) without inadvertently making a border piece shorter. With some (probably a lot) of practice you might get good at this but it’s a lot simpler and quicker to overlap the corners of the border pieces. Speaking of the Sesona grinder, are you aware that he also makes an indexing attachment? This gadget permits making intricate intarsias with the precision of a faceting machine. Here’s another Lapidary Journal/Benham reference.
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Post by berfle on May 24, 2018 13:54:25 GMT -5
Someone mentioned using the Raytech-Shaw for creating intarsia. Although most here will be primarily interested in faceting, I thought I'd offer up some references on how this machine can be and has been utilized for creating fine, intricate intarsia.
Sometime in the late 1990's Tom and Kay Benham (of Lapidary Journal Tips and Techniques column fame) became seriously interested in using a faceting machine for creating intricate intarsia after studying with Phil Magistro, Jim Kaufman and Nicolai Medvedev. Their machine of choice was a Raytech-Shaw as it seemed to more readily lend itself to intarsia. For many years they taught intarsia classes and published numerous articles in Lapidary Journal and Rock and Gem magazines. If anyone is interested and can find the old issues, here are references to 3 of their step by step articles.
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Post by berfle on May 24, 2018 6:53:21 GMT -5
Wonderful, creative work adrian65 . Your precise curve fitting is an inspiration to us “linear Intarsia” folks...
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Post by berfle on May 16, 2018 13:16:34 GMT -5
berfle . The smithing and intarsia disk dvds are fine. I ordered both sets. The two curved cabbing disks are unavailable. They were the two that came with the $499 package. Thanks, Pat good to know the DVD's are there. Those concave grinding disks are an unusual product. I know several folks who have ordered them (with the grinder) but have never used them. Out of curiosity I checked the usual Lapidary suppliers and no one lists them so that may explain why Al can no longer obtain them. Have you ever used them or know of anyone who actually uses them for hobby or production cabbing?
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Post by berfle on May 15, 2018 19:44:21 GMT -5
DISK UPDATE: Al tells me that it doesn't look good getting those two disks, so he says he has removed them from his list of available products. I've asked him what else does he have that I might like since he has my $100! Hope he has something! I am ordering the two dvd combo sets --- intarsia set and silversmith set. Pat are you referring to the DVD disks not being available or is this some other disk (as in a lap .e.g.)?
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Post by berfle on May 12, 2018 19:15:32 GMT -5
You’re right Pat there’s very little out there on Stone Intarsia. Don’t know if you’ve seen these or not:
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Post by berfle on May 12, 2018 18:01:04 GMT -5
This is a fascinating forum and I’ve enjoyed all of the posts. Many thanks to everyone👍. I was particularly interested in the attachment that sits on top of the Ameritool grinder. Very ingenious but then again so is the chunk of wood with grooves in it... I like the idea of the “whatever works” philosophy. I use an Al Sesona grinder but years ago learned to do Intarsia by just holding the piece on the flat lap. With a bit of practice one can get quite good and after all no one had fancy right angle grinders to create those breathtaking pieces in museums. BTW there are two videos available (Basic and Intricate Intarsia) by Intarsia Master Phil Magistro. He demonstrates “Basic” using just a flat lap and a faceting machine for the “Intricate”. Where can one find the videos? I looked and came up empty. I believe Al Sesona obtained permission to market the videos from Phil Magistro's estate. They were originally on VHS but Al had them converted to DVD. www.alsesonagrinder.com/grinders-and-accessories
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Post by berfle on May 12, 2018 17:16:13 GMT -5
This is a fascinating forum and I’ve enjoyed all of the posts. Many thanks to everyone👍. I was particularly interested in the attachment that sits on top of the Ameritool grinder. Very ingenious but then again so is the chunk of wood with grooves in it... I like the idea of the “whatever works” philosophy. I use an Al Sesona grinder but years ago learned to do Intarsia by just holding the piece on the flat lap. With a bit of practice one can get quite good and after all no one had fancy right angle grinders to create those breathtaking pieces in museums. BTW there are two videos available (Basic and Intricate Intarsia) by Intarsia Master Phil Magistro. He demonstrates “Basic” using just a flat lap and a faceting machine for the “Intricate”.
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Post by berfle on May 11, 2018 20:54:58 GMT -5
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Post by berfle on May 9, 2018 7:53:52 GMT -5
I think I figured out the photo posting process... here's a collage of some of my pieces:
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