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Post by Cher on Jun 9, 2005 17:35:30 GMT -5
I've been in touch with our fearless leader and Mark has agreed to give us all a chance to participate in this important forum decision.
You know the problem we've had recently with a "guest" posting. While allowing guests to post is a great option, it's a shame when you get one that ruins it for everyone.
Mark can set the forum up so that a person has to be registered to post here and is willing to do that if we, as members wish him to do so.
Keep in mind that should we vote to have him restrict posting it would be for a "TRIAL RUN" to see how it goes. If actual member sign up drops off Mark will reset it back to allowing anyone to post. I think it's a fair trade off and would be nice to try for awhile. It might be all we'd need, just a short time to straighten things out.
With this in mind, consider the options and please vote.
Mark, thank you for allowing us to voice our opinions on this matter and thank you for taking care of the recent problem.
Cher
Sorry ~ Not sure what happend but the No should read ... NO - Have them register to post
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 9, 2005 19:05:04 GMT -5
i think marks right if you stop a guest from posting he or she might just say heck with it and think we are snobs and never come back ,, i got upset acouple times with people being stupid or mean and after thinking about it ,, its just better to not pay attention and it usually goes away---well thats just an opinion and you know what they say about them hahaha --- but ill go along with the majority ether way
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Post by docone31 on Jun 9, 2005 19:07:44 GMT -5
To be honest, this is the only forum I belong to that lets non-members post. I think a poster should be registered. Basically, "Guest" seems to be a spammer. Register or read only. Are you going to communicate with Mark, or the real Andy?
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Post by Cher on Jun 9, 2005 19:17:47 GMT -5
I'm communicating with Mark, the real Andy has gone fishing.
I'm with you Doc, there's very few that like this that don't require that you register and yes, the majority of "guest" posters are spammers, especially if they can continue to get away with it.
To me, registering is not a problem. If you're honestly here to learn the do's and don'ts of rock tumbling, you won't care if you have to register
We'll give the poll anywhere from a few days to a week to try and let as many members vote.
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Post by krazydiamond on Jun 9, 2005 19:40:07 GMT -5
i'm so happy to hear that SOMEONE has heard from Mark(andy)!! i'd really started to think that we'd been abandoned after that upgrade. thought maybe the wood won.
and yes, most boards let you "read only" until you register. we have such few problems in here, it's a shame we have to take measures to keep the 1 percentile out. but in recent light, i guess i have to agree, flaming as a guest is unacceptable.
zzzzt,
KD
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Terry664
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Post by Terry664 on Jun 9, 2005 20:12:48 GMT -5
Well I am a fairly new member, and I read a lot on the site about instructions, tips, etc. I also read a lot of posts before I decided to join, because to be truthful, a lot of these sites are "snobbish, opinionated, and rude, but this one was full of very helpful people, who help keep everyone up on rock tumbling. So that said, I think guests should browse first then register to post. But I think if we do keep it the way it is or change back, we should treat everyone with respect, and if you don't like what they say, state your opinion but do not down them, or just ignore them. Just my thoughts. Terry
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texmom
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Post by texmom on Jun 9, 2005 20:25:22 GMT -5
Why ask people to sign up who only want to ask one question. It would artifically inflate numbers (good? I don't know).
A registered member can be as obnoxious as anyone else. I guess it gives a modicrum of control, in that you can ban someone who is a spammer or trouble maker.
I will go along with what the forum administrator wants to do.
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Post by Cher on Jun 9, 2005 20:26:43 GMT -5
I know what you mean Terry and that's one thing I never found here either. Nothing snobby here, just extremely helpful and patient people.
In regards to the members, if someone says something you don't like, they should not be post a reply on the forum. If it bugs them that much send them a pm but give them a chance to explain.
In regards to "guests" like our most recent one, if they are posting nasties, either ignore them or let them know they are not welcome.
I think it's pretty cool the way this forum works together and everyone sticks up for it. It's a great forum with great people but that's just because we're all rockheads. *smile* Who couldn't love someone with rocks in their head?
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Post by Tweetiepy on Jun 9, 2005 20:47:21 GMT -5
Mark responded back to me regarding blocking the rotten IP - hope it helps - too bad that one bad apple ruins it for everyone else - I thought it was great to be able to ask questions without registering -
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WarrenA
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Post by WarrenA on Jun 9, 2005 22:49:56 GMT -5
register to post -we do, it only takes a few minutes to register
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deepsouth
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Post by deepsouth on Jun 10, 2005 0:12:01 GMT -5
I think that it is an honour to be on this board and if registering is requiered, fine by me. I am a rockhound by heart and my heart is right where it belongs --- in the rocks haha.
Pleased to be of service and Thanks for bringing it up Cher and thanks to Mark for making it possible.
Jack
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Rose
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Post by Rose on Jun 10, 2005 3:00:12 GMT -5
In my experience I think it is best not to allow guest posting as it make it very easy for trouble maker to spam the board. On the forum that I am an admin on we have had similar problems with people like this but they soon get fed up when it become too much like hard work to get on the board. Obviously the troublemaker could register and continue spamming but they can be quickly deleted and having to go to the trouble of getting a new email and registering again each time they are banned is off putting to troublemakers and they will eventually get fed up of it in my experience. Really these people that have nothing better to do that spam random discussion forums are lazy and as long as any posts they make are stamped on quickly and don't get a reaction or allowed to disrupt the forum they will get bored. Just my 2c
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Post by Toad on Jun 10, 2005 5:45:02 GMT -5
I don't go to a lot of forums, but those I do visit make you register first. Makes sense to me and should cut down on spamming. I don't see that it would cut down on registration.
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Post by Just Guest on Jun 10, 2005 7:12:52 GMT -5
Hello. I have been watching, reading and on occasion I post, but I have not registered and I believe I may not. The main reason is the negative feelings and thoughts to strangers who wish to learn or become a part of this board. Here is a prime example where a person asked a question: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/index.cgi?board=tips&action=display&thread=1118155008Looks to me like this question or poll should have been posted in Board Issues? If we practice what we preach maybe... just maybe others would follow suit. I do believe I will get many negative responces to this post as so many others have in the past. Will I be back? Who knows?
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Post by Tweetiepy on Jun 10, 2005 7:35:00 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with the example you posted. I've never seen a negative comment regarding a guest posting a question. The only negative comments you may have seen or read are responses to a specific guest badmouthing everyone & anyone on this forum. You may have been unlucky & read those comments & not realized the context of the comment. This is a very friendly forum on any occasion, if anyone is genuinely interested in the topic or in getting answers, there shouldn't be a problem registering to become a member.
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Post by Alice on Jun 10, 2005 7:49:35 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with the post either... If anything, She was helpful.
The response just said "oops, you posted this question in the wrong place, try posting the question up on the other board if you want more responses, because not everybody comes to this board".
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Rose
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Post by Rose on Jun 10, 2005 7:50:44 GMT -5
I also do not see a problem with the example you have given - the "general" area is the busiest part of the site and gets alot more page views than the tips page (ie tried and tested procedures ) - which is what RoseBud was pointing out I have found this forum to be one of the most welcoming and friendly and helpful forums I have posted on. I have posted my fair share of questions and have never received a reply that was impatient or unpleasant
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Rose
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Post by Rose on Jun 10, 2005 8:08:50 GMT -5
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Dr DG
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Post by Dr DG on Jun 10, 2005 9:54:50 GMT -5
Instead of that, the admin or Mark can just ban the guest.
Even give some member control over that. Make a staff member......
I have a proboard site, it is easy to ban someone, and give control of to some members.
My thoughts......
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Jun 10, 2005 10:20:56 GMT -5
Most boards will let you read everything- and then decide if you want to join- And that is how it should be- Heck I often wish that these boards charged a user fee (just kidding) I think there is plenty of info here that guests can view. If they want to join great! If they want to bag it- fine- If they want to slam us and waste are time- well let em go somewhere else! There is no free ride- And as far as us being snobish- well i think that is a good thing- When I was new- I did a lot of posting and question asking to get to "know" the people here- Yes they seemed snobish (as far as the inside jokes and such went) but that is the fun of this board- Plus the people here were so dang smart- so I posted and learned- (and I still am). That is what these boards are for! If you have issues with registering- well then use made up info! It is too bad that a few bad rocks have to ruin the whole batch!
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