RockyBlue
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Post by RockyBlue on Jun 5, 2008 16:41:48 GMT -5
Sorry for the profanity but it`s how i feel,Bush and Chenny both should be impeached imidiately .Now that all the investigations are over and it`s now that it1s been made public that Bush and Chenney new that they had no evidence that Irac had weopens of mass destruction and they started the war anyway.It`s national news.To me That means all the men and women who defended our country in Irac that lost their lives was for a LIE.....................Rocky
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Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Jun 5, 2008 19:30:56 GMT -5
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RockyBlue
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Post by RockyBlue on Jun 5, 2008 20:46:43 GMT -5
Bush said on national tv. that HIS intelligence committe said that they had them but they had no clear evidence and he said they did thats a lie in my book. Why did Rumfeld resign,maybe it was because he lied too?..........Rocky
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Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Jun 5, 2008 21:20:29 GMT -5
Here's more national TV stuff. More "lies" ;D
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Post by cpdad on Jun 5, 2008 21:25:05 GMT -5
me and cp just watched the whole conference on c-span....start to finish....all i seen was 1 side blaming another....but at some point all agreed on what to do about something....at whatever time each seen fit....all had same info.....all twisted stuff there way...whether then or now.
i dont get into politics....only reason we watched was because we knew it was gonna be a shuffle.. we said that.....and we believed that....and we told you that....and you didnt tell us that.....which is exactly what was ;D.
when it was over....cp made me laugh ;D.....he said on his way out.
{thats why we are where were at...doesnt a damn person have a clue}.....all i could do was laugh .....at least it did seem like that watching the whole thing ;D...kev.
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Post by chassroc on Jun 6, 2008 11:58:40 GMT -5
And the most exasperasting part of this is that Guys like "trouble" and other misguided fools keep on making excuses for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Condaleeza! csroc
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 6, 2008 15:04:23 GMT -5
even though that was a buncha bull and they moved in before Russia or china did and got control of the oil--- and more then likely will keep a gov that obeys us over there --- there still was one thing that was a great thing they got rid of a guy that would kill his own mother for a thrill or a few bucks and did many of his people that way
i think I'm far from a fool i know the whole deal was for the oil but if you think about it they said what they had to say for the people to get behind them without a panic, -- yes a lie but if Russia or china had went there first we would be parking our cars very shortly and walkin an awful lot---- so if you think that was the first lie by a U.S. prez dem or rep you better take a long look at what you believe in cause they have all done it and will doit again -- so its not just bush --ya might say its the way of the world they always say its for our own good maybe it is --- should they be honest about it sure they should but then our buddies Russia and china would know the real skinny and get there first -- ill tell you who the fools are out there anybody who don't think there will be a war with ether or both Russia and china in the next 20 years ----- why do you think we are over there baby sittin the oil believe me theres a real good reason for it
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jerryde
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Post by jerryde on Jun 6, 2008 15:52:11 GMT -5
Here we go again...the "old Bash Bush" thing again...go ahead and impeach the whole bunch...then you can have your beloved "Pelosi" running the country...like she is running the congress now...have fun...
Did we forget that the strong necked "Truman" stopped us in Korea as a result...thousands of lives lost there that should of not happened...
Or, Give me the playboy "John Kennedy" getting us involved in Vietnam...then the goofball after him Johnson...that led to the most unforgiving war ever... Iraq does not even compare to the agonizing loss and pain inflicted on the American families that those two presidents did...
yet, we still glorify one of them...along with his brother that has never paid for his crime...
just my opinion...
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Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Jun 6, 2008 19:43:46 GMT -5
And the most exasperasting part of this is that Guys like "trouble" and other misguided fools keep on making excuses for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Condaleeza! csroc Hahaha. Oh, you're just soooo exasperated aren't you. Good. You deserve to be.
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WyckedWyre
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Post by WyckedWyre on Jun 6, 2008 19:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by bobby1 on Jun 6, 2008 21:16:19 GMT -5
Kennedy didn't get us involved in Vietnam, Eisenhower did. Bob
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jerryde
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Post by jerryde on Jun 6, 2008 23:54:14 GMT -5
Our involvement in Vietnam in the Eisenhower era was as advisory along with the French...
2. November 1, 1955 -- The U.S. redesignates MAAG, Indochina, as MAAG, Vietnam to specify its new direct combat advisory role with the South Vietnamese Army. The U.S. essentially took over the advisory role from the French, who were leaving Vietnam after their defeat at Diem Bien Phu in 1954. The Department of Defense views this date as the earliest qualifying date for inclusion on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
3. March 1959 -- Ho Chi Minh declares a People's War to unite all of Vietnam under his leadership. His Politburo orders a changeover to an all-out military struggle. From the comnmunist perspective, the "Vietnam War" against the U.S. has now officially started.
4. December 11, 1961 -- U.S. aircraft carrier "Core" arrives in Saigon with 33 helicopters and 400 air and ground crewmen assigned to operate them for the South Vietnamese Army. Also, U.S. pilots start to train & fly support missions with the South Vietnamese Air Force. This really marks the first larger scale participation of U.S. military "advisors".
Kennedy could of pulled out all US personal out then but he chose not to...so he was the one who elevated this action to full scale war...
check your facts....
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Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Jun 7, 2008 7:59:17 GMT -5
why do you think we are over there baby sittin the oil believe me theres a real good reason for it Also, I think it was a strategic move to get us in where we could effectively fight Iran. Iran has always been the real danger in the middle east. How convenient to already HAVE OUR ARMY THERE don't you think? I mean, Iran has screwed us over since the 1970's and made no bones about it. In our faces with death to America and supporting, funding and recruiting terrorists day in and day out. Iran is the real target and always has been if you ask me. If you are fighting strategically, you think in terms of 10 years down the road. In days when certain countries are bound to try and kill us, we could use a little patriotism instead of the crap that folks like Danny Glover, Sean Penn and yada, yada, yada endlessly on with their crying and whining and bitching. Take a good luck at Glover and those Hollywood ilk chumming up to assholes like Chavez. Talk about exasperation!
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Trouble
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Post by Trouble on Jun 7, 2008 8:06:30 GMT -5
Course, if Obama gets elected, we'll be pulling out of Iraq or so he says. He doesn't want to fight the people that have sworn to kill us, he wants to go play footsies with them. This little piggy went to market or whatever it is he has in mind. Like whatever he says will change the minds of those people that are consumed with hatred for us.
Pffft.
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 7, 2008 9:48:05 GMT -5
worst thing the Dem's could have done they did they fell for obama and let him be there choice ------ with the war with iraq and him being half black so he says -- do you really think he has a chance against a war hero when people are standing in the booth sayin who do i really want its not gonna be a hard choice a war hero or a camel jockey that prob has relatives over there killing our soldiers right now -- i wouldn't be surprised if the Rep's where in the back ground helping him beat hillery -- i think the American people would have voted in a woman prez before what ever obama is --- even hillery with all her skeletons and crooked dealings had a better chance --- all i need to do is hear his name and i know for sure he would never get my vote no matter who he runs against id vote for them --- i still say hes a sleeper cell hahahaha
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Post by WyckedWyre on Jun 7, 2008 9:57:32 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me, the racist crap that still predominates in this country. John Sands, you should be ashamed of youself.
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 7, 2008 10:09:17 GMT -5
hey I'm proud of myself i don't care what people think of me and i ain't afraid to say-it out loud i tell-it like i see it and if he wins by some weird chance i wouldn't bet on him finishing a full year haha -- theres alotta crazy people out there
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Post by WyckedWyre on Jun 7, 2008 10:22:52 GMT -5
Hey, Rose! John's moving to Canada when Obama wins! I hate this shit. Peace out. :PS
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 7, 2008 10:27:19 GMT -5
man you must be hidin in a hole rose he admits he was raised in (camel jocky) school and in my book thats enuff to vote against him -- his people are killing our people--- remember the twin towers remember kill all americans -- i see alot of people have bleeding hearts in america and say give him a chance to be our fist black prez well i say put something on the table show me what he has ever done beside being black skined that says hes right to be a our prez -- hes a novelty like pet rocks he will be the latest fad till he starts screwin up -- then all the bleeding hearts will turn on him
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Post by sandsman1 on Jun 7, 2008 10:28:38 GMT -5
i aint movin for no camel jocky i was born here --- id rather sit back and wait for the shot hahaha
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