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Post by catmandewe on Mar 23, 2011 23:18:04 GMT -5
Check out this video
I first googled his father Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936 − 24 November 1982) Then I googled his step father Lolo Soetoro(January 2, 1935- March 2, 1987)
Then I googled WWII and got World War II, or the Second World War[3] (often abbreviated as WWII or WW2), was a global military conflict lasting from 1939 to 1945
This would have made his father or his step father somewhere between 3 and 10 years old during WWII.
Kinda makes you wonder about everything else he says.
Tony
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Post by Toad on Mar 23, 2011 23:40:37 GMT -5
Never heard that one before, but I think we know the answer to the title of the thread regardless...
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Post by sandsman1 on Mar 23, 2011 23:52:11 GMT -5
2 words --------- bullshit artist
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Post by Sabre52 on Mar 24, 2011 8:57:34 GMT -5
Shoot, there's not enough space on the page for all the lies he's told. You should read about the little we know about his college career. Unfortunately, this is true about almost every politician. Much easier to make a list of the truths they've told. Could probably do that on one hand.....Mel
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 24, 2011 12:33:46 GMT -5
The guy is a "BUM"!!!!!
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Post by texaswoodie on Mar 24, 2011 14:56:27 GMT -5
Is Obama a liar?
Bwahahahahahahaha
Curt
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Post by jakesrocks on Mar 24, 2011 15:19:44 GMT -5
That's like asking, is the pope Catholic.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Mar 26, 2012 18:08:44 GMT -5
bump
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Post by darstcreek77 on Mar 26, 2012 21:34:51 GMT -5
Is a pigs ass pork hell yes hes a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mrswtownsend on Mar 26, 2012 21:43:45 GMT -5
Well gee, I don't know~ are politicians liars?
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Post by helens on Mar 26, 2012 21:45:18 GMT -5
No Tony... according to Snopes, Obama was referring to his grandfather, the father who raised him from the time he was 10 years old, Stanley Armour Dunham. Who enlisted right after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and served as a seargent in Europe throughout WWII. Reference: www.snopes.com/politics/obama/service.asp
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Post by rockingthenorth on Mar 26, 2012 22:05:27 GMT -5
have you seen how his birth certifacate was forged.
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Post by helens on Mar 26, 2012 22:23:34 GMT -5
That's another funny... the birth certificate was supposed to be a re-issue FROM the Hawaiian birth registries... who have been interviewed at length and admitted printing him the copy.
Um.. why would anyone need to forge it, when Hawaii's registrar said they'd just print him another copy if he needed one? That one makes NO sense at all. Seems to me the easiest way to settle that one in your own mind is to call Hawaii's registrar and ask them yourself if they printed Obama's birth certificate. They may get annoyed, but they have to be used to it by now.
The puzzling thing was that the 'forgery conspiracists' never once mentioned what Hawaii's birth registrar had to say. They spent who knows how long 'investigating' the birth certificate, when all they had to do was make a call and ask if they printed it?
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Post by jakesrocks on Mar 26, 2012 22:34:15 GMT -5
Depends on the law Helen. That may be considered private info that can only be released to a family member, with positive proof that they are in fact a family member.
I never have seen a close up picture of his "birth certificate". Does it have the embossed stamp and authenticating signature on it ? If so, has anyone been allowed to make sure that the stamp and signature are indeed authentic ? Or was a piece of paper quickly shown to a select group of the liberal press, without being authenticated ?
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Post by helens on Mar 26, 2012 22:47:53 GMT -5
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349839/Hawaii-governor-says-Obamas-birth-record-exists-produce-it.htmlDon, you are right, it is a violation of privacy laws for everyone to call the birth certificate office. HOWEVER, his birth announcement was printed in 2 different papers in Hawaii ... and all papers that far back are public record and microfished... probably digitized by now. Way easier than to check for forgery. How strange. But more important, anyone who runs for office has to be cleared by the Secret Service. Heck, ANYONE who wants to step foot in the White House as a visitor (to be in the presence of the President) must first be cleared by the Secret Service. IF you are not a citizen, you must provide alien registration OR foreign passport, and background is checked and documentation verified. That record is kept by the Secret Service and/or FBI forever (like prints). There's no way he'd get to run for Congress without vetting by both organizations, because Congressmen will at some point be in the presence of the President of the US. You can request copies of YOUR OWN records under the Freedom of Information Act, to see anything they have on you and your clearances, if any. It's a fun exercise that takes 10 minutes to write the letter for the request. They respond with your entire file with other names blacked out within 3 months.
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Post by helens on Mar 26, 2012 23:17:12 GMT -5
Don, the article above said that the Governor of Hawaii, who claimed to have known Obama as a CHILD in Hawaii (knew his whole family) has fought for the Hawaii registrar to just open the records to allow people to see for themselves to shut the nutjobs up.
They said due to privacy laws, they cannot do it. BUT... they direct people to the 2 newspapers who did his birth announcement within days, and also the INDEX of where his original birth records were kept, which ARE public record.
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Post by helens on Mar 26, 2012 23:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by helens on Mar 27, 2012 2:45:01 GMT -5
One final thing about the birth certificate. There are a LOT of Republicans in the Secret Service... do you honestly think that at least one whistle blower would not come forward BEFORE Obama's Inauguration to say that his documentation was incomplete to qualify him to RUN for President? That 'leak' would be an obligation for their entire Agency. All potential Presidential Candidates must satisfy the conditions before they can be Nominated.
Further, except for the appointed heads... who do not serve 1 term, ALL agents of both Secret Service and FBI are lifers.... some having been there for 30 years or even longer. They don't CARE who's President, who come and go. They do their jobs, and they run their departments regardless who's President. NEITHER agencies are subject to appointment except when the previous chief retires or leaves, and that's 1 man changing.
There's not a fat chance in hell a non-natural born citizen could ever sit in the Oval Office so long as that requirement stands.
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Post by Fossilman on Mar 27, 2012 7:27:09 GMT -5
I trust Obummer as far as I can spit!!! I didn't trust Clinton,Nixon nor JFK either...........Carter and Ford was a joke too!!!!!
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Post by grayfingers on Mar 27, 2012 7:39:09 GMT -5
Important Difference Between a Certificate - vs. Certification - of Live Birth President Obama produced a Certification - not a Certificate - of Live Birth. While both are accepted as "birth certificates" in HI, some interesting information would be learned if one reads the websites of Hawaii's Deportment of Health and of the Department of Hawaiian Homelands: Only the Certificate of Live Birth (the one Obama did not produce) is considered an "original birth certificate." (read the Homeland website) "A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii," is eligible to apply for an amended birth certificate. (Read the Health website) "Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth.When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth." (Read the homeland web site) The above information gives us two options as to why President Obama produced a Certification of Live Birth and not an original birth certificate, aka Certificate of Live Birth. A) Obama lost his original kosher document and therefore the state as a replacement gave him only a Certification document, since they don't provide anymore copies of the original. B) Obama was born outside of HI, but after his guardians followed through the requirements (a "certified copy of the adoption decree or the certificate of adoption, and payment of fees"), Obama received an amended birth certificate. Regarding the Two Newspapers in Hawaii that placed a Mazel Tove for Obama's parents to the birth of a son on August 1961, it is relevant to have in mind that Obama has eight half-siblings by four other marriages or relationships between his parents. So go figure to which son the ad was referring. In addition, as WND pointed-out back in July 2009, The Honolulu Star-Bulletin, for example, according to its website, reprints birth information it receives from Hawaii's Department of Health, which includes Certifications of Birth that foreigners may obtain. Again: I am not suggesting that the President was not born in the USA. However, with the above information at hand, the arguments of the Obama defenders that ‘Obama produced a birth certificate,' and that ‘there were two ads in the papers,' become mostly irrelevant. www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/important_difference_between_a.html
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