droseraguy
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Post by droseraguy on Dec 23, 2014 14:00:06 GMT -5
Restoring an old green lortone combo-unit and wonder why there is no drain for the saw blade part ? I don't plan to put additives in the water and was going to drain the compartment inbetween uses. Pros or cons for adding a little brass drain valve since there is no hole ? Am I crazy for running without any additives ? For that matter a rubber plug in a drilled hole would work just as easy to drain it into the attached pan below. It's not that heavy but I'd rather not manhandle it to pour out a couple gallons of water.
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Post by deb193redux on Dec 23, 2014 14:09:19 GMT -5
at 10" plain water is questioned by some. For <10many use water with additive for pink RV fluid mix.
May as well put drain. Even if you eat blades too fast and switch to additives or water, it's not like that drain will have cost a lot.
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Post by droseraguy on Dec 23, 2014 14:22:05 GMT -5
This unit only has the 4-6" trim blade slot. Sorry if it was a little ambiguois ! forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/54828 like this one only older. Maybe only 3/4 gallon to get up the blade a 1/2" or so ?
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Post by jakesrocks on Dec 23, 2014 14:53:06 GMT -5
If you have access to small pipe taps, one of these threaded into the bottom front of the tank would do the trick. www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-Mini-Brass-Ball-Valve-Chrome-Plated-FxM-NPT-/111153890490I just ordered one for my 6" trim saw, to replace the stock drain plug. Since the tank on your machine is sheet metal, you could get a couple of the nuts and washers used in lighting fixtures, and a small rubber washer. The lighting fixture nuts are 1/4 NPT threaded. Put a nut and washer on the male threaded part of the valve. Push the valve through a hole drilled in your tank, followed by the rubber washer, metal washer and nut. Tighten the nut and your good to go.
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Post by Fossilman on Dec 23, 2014 15:20:17 GMT -5
Drill,tap,thread in a new collar and plug-your ready to roll........
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Post by phil on Dec 23, 2014 15:27:15 GMT -5
I've used one of those for years. They are sooo easy to pull the insert over the blade and sponge dry. They tend to rust badly if not wiped dry, so I'm not sure a drain would help. Total water in there is maybe 1/2 gallon. The grind polish side is also designed to be sponge dried and cleaned. I think it took me about 5 minutes to sponge one out, both sides, and then leave it open to dry. Oh... I used an additive in the water, it helped with blade life. If you have to have a drain, I'd go simple 1/2 inch rubber plug....
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droseraguy
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Post by droseraguy on Dec 23, 2014 22:20:15 GMT -5
Good points, especially the sponging dry. Seems like a really good idea to use an additive, add a hole and stopper to catch the liquid for reuse, dry it out and go from there. With the 4" blade there will be a bit more liquid to reach it. After some new paint it will be sponge worthy to steal a Sienfeld ref. I'm also stealing the drip feed from the link above. (Drummond Island Rocks I believe) It looks much less involved than the recirciulating pump that puts out way too much anyhow. The flames and pin striping are put on hold for now too. Once holidays are over its back to knocking this out.
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Post by captbob on Dec 24, 2014 0:20:29 GMT -5
How much liquid is needed to cut? Less than a gallon? For that small amount, why aren't you just wanting to use oil and save yourself the hassle of cleaning it after each use?
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Post by droseraguy on Dec 24, 2014 8:46:31 GMT -5
That's another good question. I mentioned in another thread that I have yet to make a cab other than playing around. Practical experience is yet to come but my thinking was to trim up and work on the adjacent wheels all in water to keep things clean. Last time I used this the trim blade part threw water around . If that was oil it would mix in the water/ wheels and make 2/3 of a salad dressing recipe. A drain can always be added if needed really. Thanks all for the questions and comments, food for thought.
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Post by Peruano on Dec 24, 2014 12:01:36 GMT -5
If you are throwing that much water, you're using too much in tank. Half an inch is probably too deep Oil vs water is personal pref. Cut a lot infrequently use water. Cut a little everyday use oil to avoid daily clean, tom
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Post by phil on Dec 24, 2014 13:14:59 GMT -5
Does it still have the blade guard? It shouldn't be throwing that much water unless as someone said, you've got the tank too full. Sometimes, when I overfilled, I'd simply take some wet paper towels and lay them over the area where the water was spraying. It worked.
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Post by 1dave on Dec 24, 2014 13:43:48 GMT -5
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droseraguy
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Post by droseraguy on Dec 24, 2014 14:20:31 GMT -5
I like it Dave. I'll need one for the 24" saw anyway. Maybe a smaller version and my little shop vac !!
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 25, 2014 2:49:08 GMT -5
I would not use oil in the saw on a Lortone LU6X, the grinder wheels are close to the saw and would end up oiled.
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Post by phil on Dec 25, 2014 13:27:11 GMT -5
Nope, no oil. They're designed for water.
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Post by droseraguy on Dec 25, 2014 23:20:22 GMT -5
Water it is, just enough to get the job done and dried out when not in use.
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Post by phil on Dec 25, 2014 23:47:26 GMT -5
One nice thing about using water and sponging it out after every use is that you never get any rock crud build up to worry about! When you add the water (and additive if you wish) just add enough to cover the diamond coated edge of the blade plus 1/8th inch max.
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 26, 2014 0:44:08 GMT -5
Another nice thing about draining out the combo unit is the saw blade isn't slinging water about when you're grinding on the wheels. Watch the water level while cutting, I look for a line of water being slung by the blade and a drip from the blade guard. When needed I add with the saw running till I see the stripe.
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