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Post by Intheswamp on Jun 30, 2016 7:15:22 GMT -5
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Post by captbob on Jun 30, 2016 8:33:14 GMT -5
It could have recently been released. No way it could make it through a winter up there unless it holed up somewhere fairly warm.
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Post by Intheswamp on Jun 30, 2016 10:29:59 GMT -5
You remember "Nessie" the Loch Ness Monster?....might've been a giant python!!! Gee, I just solved a decades old mystery!!!....does this mean I get to be on "The View"?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 11:12:56 GMT -5
Nessie was a hoax. Google it.
That is an escaped pet. That snake wouldn't survive here let alone Maine.
I know this because they catch pneumonia easily at temps below 65f
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Post by Intheswamp on Jun 30, 2016 14:42:30 GMT -5
Shux, there goes my fifteen minutes of fame. Scott, I didn't know that about the pneumonia. If they get pneumonia do they readily recover or do they usually get worse and worse? I'm trying to guesstimate how far north they will successfully migrate to from captbob's territory. It seems like I-10 coming across north Florida should be about the limit....if that far north, even. What do ya think? Ed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 18:32:15 GMT -5
Shux, there goes my fifteen minutes of fame. Scott, I didn't know that about the pneumonia.  If they get pneumonia do they readily recover or do they usually get worse and worse?  I'm trying to guesstimate how far north they will successfully migrate to from captbob's territory.  It seems like I-10 coming across north Florida should be about the limit....if that far north, even.  What do ya think? Ed Since it is pretty clear the pythons have been in the Everglades for approximately 50 years And they haven't been found outside that area with any regularity, the maximum range of Burmese pythons in the USA is the Everglades. Nowhere else! If they get pneumonia, the temperatures must be fixed and a veterinarian is required to do some doctoring.
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Post by Intheswamp on Jun 30, 2016 23:53:23 GMT -5
Well, if they *were* to make it up here...'reckon they'd eat armadillos and coyotes? ? That makes sense to me about them being contained to the Everglades. Remind me not to stop on the side of Alligator Alley and take a swim the next time I go through there!!!! Between the gators and the pythons....sheese!!! So pneumonia is serious for a snake, eh? I take it different snakes handle cold in different ways. Ed
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2016 4:18:28 GMT -5
Well, if they *were* to make it up here...'reckon they'd eat armadillos and coyotes? ? That makes sense to me about them being contained to the Everglades. Remind me not to stop on the side of Alligator Alley and take a swim the next time I go through there!!!! Between the gators and the pythons....sheese!!! So pneumonia is serious for a snake, eh? I take it different snakes handle cold in different ways. Ed This is funny. Got down to camp yesteryday. Have a nest of coons in the attic. Ready to put a python up there. Snake Pneumonia? Amazing. Drove in and had about 2 inches of rain, perfect welcome. Pump locked up, artesian well flowing great. No A/C last night. Bugs everywhere. Weeds 4 feet high. Almost two years of growth. Welcome to vacation property.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2016 4:20:17 GMT -5
At least they finally put up a cell tower.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2016 4:25:06 GMT -5
Never know Ed. Them Anacondas may develop a resistance in Bama.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 7:28:25 GMT -5
IntheswampCoons. The would eat coons and turkeys and possums and coyotes and house cats and puppies and ... well u get the idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 7:29:32 GMT -5
Never know Ed. Them Anacondas may develop a resistance in Bama. What? They made a law says anacondas can't cross state lines. How could they get to 'bama?
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Post by jamesp on Jul 1, 2016 8:37:08 GMT -5
Never know Ed. Them Anacondas may develop a resistance in Bama. What? They made a law says anacondas can't cross state lines. How could they get to 'bama? Ed, a tasty morcel.
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Post by Intheswamp on Jul 1, 2016 8:53:17 GMT -5
Wait a minute!!!! I ain't gonna be snake food!!!! I think I'll see if I can't get some of those liberal tree-huggers to pass some type of education bill to teach those snakes how to read!!!! That way they'll know they can't come into Alabama. James, I think I just saw some weeds parting in two...is there something moving over there? Coons...you got coons...Scott, you said something about those big anacondas eating coons, didn't you? Don't worry it was probably just a little green snake...
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Post by gemfeller on Jul 1, 2016 10:47:22 GMT -5
From what I hear all that's needed to get rid of the pythons is to start a rumor in Cajun country that they're mighty tasty and out of season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 13:25:15 GMT -5
From what I hear all that's needed to get rid of the pythons is to start a rumor in Cajun country that they're mighty tasty and out of season. For many years The park service refused legal hunting. Its a popular leather snake so a commercial market for dead pythons exists in nearly unlimited numbers. Finally, they realized sticking steadfast to a rule meant to protect native species was harming native species..... Apparently scarlet ibis is on the menu too.
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Post by jamesp on Jul 2, 2016 7:17:37 GMT -5
Blue Heron was a Native American staple food. Old Florida crackers ate them too. Took some photos of Ibis yesterday. Chowing down on something in the grass next to the Ace Hardware. They have large rookeries on trees next to water. White ones, but some dark or mixed with dark.
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Post by Intheswamp on Aug 21, 2016 7:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by Peruano on Aug 21, 2016 8:23:00 GMT -5
There pretty good scientific data to suggest that pythons could spread considerably further north than the everglades. But the pet trade doesn't want it known, and the state of Florida wouldn't advertise the risk either. Pythons in Maine and alligators in sewers of NYC are either recent arrivals that haven't endured the total climatic range or fiction. Million and billion dollar industries don't like to be threatened by facts until they are overwhelming. Think tobacco, seat belts, and climate change. Just saying. And this post is not intended to start a turf war. The subject is about rocks and people.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 23:33:53 GMT -5
There pretty good scientific data to suggest that pythons could spread considerably further north than the everglades. But the pet trade doesn't want it known, and the state of Florida wouldn't advertise the risk either. Pythons in Maine and alligators in sewers of NYC are either recent arrivals that haven't endured the total climatic range or fiction. Million and billion dollar industries don't like to be threatened by facts until they are overwhelming. Think tobacco, seat belts, and climate change. Just saying. And this post is not intended to start a turf war. The subject is about rocks and people. SREL couldnt keep them alive in south carolina. srelherp.uga.edu/jd/jdweb/research/publications/2010%20-%20Dorcas%20et%20al.%20-%202010%20-%20BioInvas%20-%20Python%20survival%20in%20SC.pdfThere is a US Geologocal Survey "paper" by Gordon Rodda that attempts to explain the burmese python's potential spread patter is as far as San Francisco! He includes arid Southwest desert as possible habitat. Its a tropical water loving species! Additionally, He used a related species (Indian Python) that is more cold tolerant and AVERAGE temperatures in a small region of snakes range, Pakistan. He conveniently left out minimum temps or the fact he used the wrong taxon. The origin of the everglades snakes is southeast asia, Thailand, Malaysia or similar. Not more temperate Pakistan. That species is not nearly as cold tolerant as citrus trees and Florida has freezes that kill citrus trees regularly. Tom, to what evidence do you refer? I would love to review it. Those snakes have been in the everglades for 60 years, if they could readily spread, they would have done so already. Dont you think?
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