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Post by Garage Rocker on Sept 6, 2017 11:53:41 GMT -5
Not to make light of Irma but from the bottom of the NOAA Projected Path page: I like that disclaimer, a lot. What's to be confused about, anyway? Just because the models shown, especially on the diagram above it, look like someone dropped a bowl of spaghetti? I do believe they have a model showing a strike for each of the coastal states, up to Maine.
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Post by captbob on Sept 6, 2017 12:44:26 GMT -5
Further east this thing swings, the better for us here on the west coast of Florida. I'll take whatever we can get. Had it come up the west coast (still could) that would be bad for more of the state. Keep swinging east Irma!
Sold my big honkin' generator on craigslist last night. Huge noisy thing. Could have sold ten of them! Girl that bought it has no clue. Mom & dad probably told her to buy one. Glad to have the hurricane scare to allow me a quick easy sale.
Also have a smaller super quite Honda generator, so I wasn't going to be without. Called the equipment shop where I bought it and asked about picking another one up. They were sold out -of course- but expected a truck with several more in tomorrow. I'm first on their list to receive one. So, will get a 2nd Honda 2000i and with two should be able to run most anything I need to and without the noisy 6000 watt beast bothering me and the neighbors.
Big honker sale will pay for the new smaller unit. Worked out well for me.
You wouldn't believe the lines at gas stations here. Crazy stupid. Home Depot & grocery store extra crowded as well. Not a darn thing I need to get other than more food for the lizard. Good luck finding a sheet of plywood in this town - or state for that matter.
Never let a crisis go to waste!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 16:16:52 GMT -5
Gimme an earthquake anyday compared to that crap.
No dramatic lead up to it. No lines or shortages, until after. And hurricanes have that too. No traffic jams before. No increased gas prices before.
Inconvenience is cut in half for earthquakes. Yep. As for natural disasters go, earthquakes for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 16:19:47 GMT -5
On my way to Gainesville from Orlando, in august of 2007-8-9 (forgot which year) I drove right thru a hurricane. Supposedly level 1 in the area I was. Can't remember the name. It was a sleeper. Go 40mph, wipers on max, stay alert, get to destination. Roads were empty, clear sailing.
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Post by unclesoska on Sept 6, 2017 16:53:38 GMT -5
Aren't motor vehicles more likely to float w/ a full tank of gas? Just wonderin'. Please be safe out there Y'all in Irma's path.
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Post by amygdule on Sept 6, 2017 17:50:59 GMT -5
Hope you folks stay safe.
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Post by mohs on Sept 6, 2017 20:22:03 GMT -5
Predicted path from start had eye north of Puerto Rica and Cuba. A long track with no land strikes over warmest September water. This rarely happens. Cat 5 over cold deep water because upper air is conducive and adjacent pressure systems providing fuel. Katrina slowed to Cat 3 at land fall. Harvey was crazy as it sped up from a Cat 3 to a Cat 4 w/140 MPH. 140-150-160-170-180 makes big difference. 150 and 160, one story concrete buildings fare well. Above 160 is another game and an unknown. New territory, other than Andrew hitting small town Homestead Florida at 165 MPH with a Cat 4 rating. 165 MPH gusts. Cat 5 Irma has predicted 220 MPH gusts. Homestead was leveled. Sheared off the ground. 200+ gusts might as well be a tornado. Irma needs to slow down to Cat 3/4 at least. Andrew came in a similar route as Irma untouched by land strikes. But came in over colder water. Cat 4 Andrew path and intensity. blue dots on right show tropical storm/Cat 1, Irma was whipped up to a Cat 5 way out on ocean, crazy. Water surface temperature August 19. Irma trucking right up the hottest water Irma path over warmest water "That means parts of the hurricane's core have sustained wind speeds of at least 175 mph, violent enough to destroy homes and overturn trains." Hi James I was in Orlando during Andrew. Imagine some guy from Sonora desert living in upstairs apartment 100 feet above sea level. What was I going to do? There was lots of panic! I just bought some beer and told the family I loved them. Recall going out early that morning, beer in hand, looking south and thanking God! Andrew didn’t come to Orlando. Anyway I just to stopped in to say ‘Hi” Mostly Florida-- a place where when I drove over a speed bump my ears would pop take care Ed
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Post by Tommy on Sept 6, 2017 21:37:59 GMT -5
Gimme an earthquake anyday compared to that crap. No dramatic lead up to it. No lines or shortages, until after. And hurricanes have that too. No traffic jams before. No increased gas prices before. Inconvenience is cut in half for earthquakes. Yep. As for natural disasters go, earthquakes for me. I agree to a certain extent ... I survived Loma Preita in '89. Where we differ is when (not if ... when) the Cascadia subduction zone breaks unleashing up to a magnitude 10 on the pacific northwest. This will be the one that changes the face of the human race living in the western hemisphere. Hundreds of thousands (millions?) will die in the initial 100' tsunami but the starvation element - and the ensuing chaos of panic as what is left of cities like Portland (elev. 50') empty their populations upon the surrounding states. Edit to add: The Really Big One
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Post by jamesp on Sept 7, 2017 4:17:52 GMT -5
Hurricane Opal in 1996 is the only one I have ever experienced. It blew right up and over Signal Mountain, TN. Their were so many trees and power lines down the mountain was 'closed' for several days until the main roads could be reopened. By the time it got to us the sustained winds were in the 40-50s in Chattanooga and upwards of 70 on the mountain. I can't even fathom 170+ There are still patches of forest within 8 miles of my home where Opal sent tornadoes. We were way east of the track go figure. It flooded West Georgia, broke many dams including Lake Blackshear built 1930 on the Flint River and washed out a section of I-285. Dozens of tornadoes hit the ridge 5 miles across the river. Took down almost every tree down that ridge for 2 miles. Wind never touched my place, but had 18 inches of rain. The weather folks could not comprehend why there was mass tornado damage(large trees twisted off 20 feet up) for a 2 mile wide stretch on that slightly elevated ridge. Ridge running north-south, tornados travelled east-west. Only conclusion is a cluster of tornados, perhaps up to a 100 in a 5 mile radius hitting mostly hill tops. It took months to clear the ridge road. Damaged no houses, as if the damage was all 20 feet and higher. Flooding due to Opal lingering.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 7, 2017 4:40:39 GMT -5
Predicted path from start had eye north of Puerto Rica and Cuba. A long track with no land strikes over warmest September water. This rarely happens. Cat 5 over cold deep water because upper air is conducive and adjacent pressure systems providing fuel. Katrina slowed to Cat 3 at land fall. Harvey was crazy as it sped up from a Cat 3 to a Cat 4 w/140 MPH. 140-150-160-170-180 makes big difference. 150 and 160, one story concrete buildings fare well. Above 160 is another game and an unknown. New territory, other than Andrew hitting small town Homestead Florida at 165 MPH with a Cat 4 rating. 165 MPH gusts. Cat 5 Irma has predicted 220 MPH gusts. Homestead was leveled. Sheared off the ground. 200+ gusts might as well be a tornado. Irma needs to slow down to Cat 3/4 at least. Andrew came in a similar route as Irma untouched by land strikes. But came in over colder water. Cat 4 Andrew path and intensity. blue dots on right show tropical storm/Cat 1, Irma was whipped up to a Cat 5 way out on ocean, crazy. Water surface temperature August 19. Irma trucking right up the hottest water Irma path over warmest water "That means parts of the hurricane's core have sustained wind speeds of at least 175 mph, violent enough to destroy homes and overturn trains." Hi James I was in Orlando during Andrew. Imagine some guy from Sonora desert living in upstairs apartment 100 feet above sea level. What was I going to do? There was lots of panic! I just bought some beer and told the family I loved them. Recall going out early that morning, beer in hand, looking south and thanking God! Andrew didn’t come to Orlando. Anyway I just to stopped in to say ‘Hi” Mostly Florida-- a place where when I drove over a speed bump my ears would pop take care Ed Well Ed, you can watch this one from the TV. Sonora desert sounds like the right place to be. You can scale the size of these storms by comparing them to peninsular Florida. Little Andrew. Yes, he was small but potent. Katrina, right in the middle of hot water, poetry, perfectly formed. Big storm. Ivan, fortunatly this one weakened. Always thought it was the baddest in my time. Hurricane Hugo, thankfully in cooler water. Opal the rain and tornado maker
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Post by jamesp on Sept 7, 2017 5:24:28 GMT -5
2004 to 2005 were serious hurricane years. All went around Georgia thank you. All Cat 3 or bigger
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Post by jamesp on Sept 7, 2017 5:37:01 GMT -5
Wind predictions at 2AM Thursday morning from NOAA Miami/Fort Lauderdale is in a bad way. One of the worst hurricanes predicted to strike the absolute worst place. Keep in mind if the west eye wall strikes land you add eye travel speed which has been averaging 16 MPH. NOAA site, this is what most of the weather channels use. www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/102752.shtml?tswind120#contentsPopulation cities and counties Rich and famous built on Miami's barrier island known as Miami Beach. Wondering if our tax money is going to rebuild their houses in case of damage. I believe Florida or the Feds have some new rules about that situation. Miami/Miami Beach
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Post by 1dave on Sept 7, 2017 5:38:36 GMT -5
Never let a crisis go to waste! Never let a crisis go to WAIST!
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Post by captbob on Sept 7, 2017 8:47:47 GMT -5
Well now I'm kinda bored. I was in here comes death and destruction mode there for a day or two. Wasn't going to evacuate, but had lots to do for major hurricane preparation.
With this track moving further east, the weather folks are saying that we may get 3" of rain and some minor wind here. We get that here in Florida during an afternoon thunderstorm. They are trying to hype what "could" still happen if the track shifts back. Good for ratings and keeping people watching.
Granted, it could still shift back towards us. Will keep one eye on it. But definitely lowering the DefCon level.
Bored is good! Back to my regularly scheduled activities.
All the best to those in the path.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 12:31:17 GMT -5
Wow, Irma just rocked my world! Our appointment/sales support center has extended wait times due to Irma related call volume. I guess people know that they will need windows and roofs and want to make appointments now. Wow
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Post by coloradocliff on Sept 7, 2017 12:42:16 GMT -5
Gimme an earthquake anyday compared to that crap. No dramatic lead up to it. No lines or shortages, until after. And hurricanes have that too. No traffic jams before. No increased gas prices before. Inconvenience is cut in half for earthquakes. Yep. As for natural disasters go, earthquakes for me. I agree to a certain extent ... I survived Loma Preita in '89. Where we differ is when (not if ... when) the Cascadia subduction zone breaks unleashing up to a magnitude 10 on the pacific northwest. This will be the one that changes the face of the human race living in the western hemisphere. Hundreds of thousands (millions?) will die in the initial 100' tsunami but the starvation element - and the ensuing chaos of panic as what is left of cities like Portland (elev. 50') empty their populations upon the surrounding states. Edit to add: The Really Big OneBuying beach front property in Barstow.
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Post by coloradocliff on Sept 7, 2017 12:43:48 GMT -5
Never let a crisis go to waste! Never let a crisis go to WAIST! Have her telephone number? Might have her own private area code..
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Post by captbob on Sept 7, 2017 12:53:51 GMT -5
awww Jiminy Christmas
My county just approved evacuation for Zone A locations - beaches & low lying areas. Means beaches are gonna be closed to inbound traffic starting tomorrow at 6 am RETARDED !!! Care to guess where my wife unit works? yuuuup... the beach. Off work Friday & Monday for her. She just called and told me the wonderful news. Said all the gas stations on her way to work were out of gas this morning. People are getting stupid about Irma. Yes, it will be bad on the other coast, but not here. Reminds me of hurricane Charlie back in 04 or 05. Track changed from here and it went south. The power company still shut our power off. I sat here with blue skies and no clouds with no power. pissed as hell! Headed out now to go birthday shopping for darling wife. Will get eyes on the crazies and general level of retardation. I have around 60 gallons of gas stored in cans. Maybe I should set up a temp. gas station down on the main drag. morons ...
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 7, 2017 12:56:37 GMT -5
I agree to a certain extent ... I survived Loma Preita in '89. Where we differ is when (not if ... when) the Cascadia subduction zone breaks unleashing up to a magnitude 10 on the pacific northwest. This will be the one that changes the face of the human race living in the western hemisphere. Hundreds of thousands (millions?) will die in the initial 100' tsunami but the starvation element - and the ensuing chaos of panic as what is left of cities like Portland (elev. 50') empty their populations upon the surrounding states. Edit to add: The Really Big One Besides the starvation and chaos factors, don't forget the disease that is sure to follow. Wondering how TX will be faring after Harvey? Others after Irma rips through?
Tommy , which do you think will happen first? The Cascadia subduction zone shearing (followed by massive quakes and tsunami), or massive failure of the Yellowstone supervolcano? One thing you can be sure of, Mother Nature can be a royal b**ch!
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Post by Tommy on Sept 7, 2017 15:21:34 GMT -5
Tommy , which do you think will happen first? The Cascadia subduction zone shearing (followed by massive quakes and tsunami), or massive failure of the Yellowstone supervolcano? One thing you can be sure of, Mother Nature can be a royal b**ch! Yeah that's the billion dollar question... as I was writing that line about this being the event that alters everything I had Yellowstone in the back of my mind. When she decides to blow we're all going to be migrating south and wishing Trump hadn't built that damn wall.
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