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Post by HankRocks on Jan 9, 2018 17:43:51 GMT -5
I think the appropriate expression is "A Bull in a China Shop"!!
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Post by captbob on Jan 9, 2018 17:52:05 GMT -5
Been watching this thread daily and I finally have to ask.
What inspired this recent glass craze?
Speed of start to finish? Working on methods to tumble softer rocks? Just something different to play with?
Looks like you will get some outstanding tumbles from all the glass, hopefully without requiring stitches along the way.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 9, 2018 19:15:02 GMT -5
Ok did a little research. It is about $30.00-$60.00. Not a really valuable piece. It is gonna kill me to say this, but smashing is allowed. I hate to for that price. The glass is so so as far as color, if more desirable in color it would get hammered at that price. May gift it. I moved the rooster glass to polish today, it will be ready tomorrow. By a landslide my favorite tumble ever. Stuck on the glass, and little waste. It does shrink a lot. But about every piece is a keeper. No fractures, great shapes, quicker tumble.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 9, 2018 19:33:42 GMT -5
Been watching this thread daily and I finally have to ask. What inspired this recent glass craze? Speed of start to finish? Working on methods to tumble softer rocks? Just something different to play with? Looks like you will get some outstanding tumbles from all the glass, hopefully without requiring stitches along the way. Always was into glass. Probably started with my favorite family member, my Florida Grandmother Mema. She collected. Back about 8 years ago I started tumbling. Never could tumble polish glass. Tried and tried. So got back into rock collecting and started tumbling coral. Now I can tumble polish glass. Had collected a bunch of glass, but put it in storage since I could not tumble it. And never realized the fine source of glass in Atlanta till a few weeks ago. Port of Savannah, Miami, Charlotte, lots of imports stored here, a national distribution center, Atlanta is a city of warehouses. Lots of stores selling lost and damaged. A glass recycling factory is about 10 mile from me, another source. Am also better at hammering out the colors of glass pieces. About half of them need colored areas extracted with the hammer.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 9, 2018 20:40:04 GMT -5
Ok did a little research. It is about $30.00-$60.00. Not a really valuable piece. It is gonna kill me to say this, but smashing is allowed. I hate to for that price. The glass is so so as far as color, if more desirable in color it would get hammered at that price. May gift it. I moved the rooster glass to polish today, it will be ready tomorrow. By a landslide my favorite tumble ever. Stuck on the glass, and little waste. It does shrink a lot. But about every piece is a keeper. No fractures, great shapes, quicker tumble. I found one that went for 165. I was praying you hadn't done a James on it. Glass is tricky, one second it' worth a ot the next it isn't. I would keep it and put tumbles in it😊 Waiting patiently to see the rooster
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Post by jamesp on Jan 9, 2018 21:00:07 GMT -5
I hate to for that price. The glass is so so as far as color, if more desirable in color it would get hammered at that price. May gift it. I moved the rooster glass to polish today, it will be ready tomorrow. By a landslide my favorite tumble ever. Stuck on the glass, and little waste. It does shrink a lot. But about every piece is a keeper. No fractures, great shapes, quicker tumble. I found one that went for 165. I was praying you hadn't done a James on it. Glass is tricky, one second it' worth a ot the next it isn't. I would keep it and put tumbles in it😊 Waiting patiently to see the rooster No worry. Going to leave this one in tact. May collect glass and set the 'finds' aside for a collection for a sale. By more tumble stuff. Weighs 5 pounds 15.5 ounces, a chunk. Broke the glass blowers millefiori sticks into nubby lengths for tumbling with the hammer. They were not really well bounded together. Fellow looks Irish, maybe he needs Italian blood in his veins. That was cold.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 10, 2018 11:19:33 GMT -5
I found one that went for 165. I was praying you hadn't done a James on it. Glass is tricky, one second it' worth a ot the next it isn't. I would keep it and put tumbles in it😊 Waiting patiently to see the rooster No worry. Going to leave this one in tact. May collect glass and set the 'finds' aside for a collection for a sale. By more tumble stuff. Weighs 5 pounds 15.5 ounces, a chunk. Broke the glass blowers millefiori sticks into nubby lengths for tumbling with the hammer. They were not really well bounded together. Fellow looks Irish, maybe he needs Italian blood in his veins. That was cold. Thank God. I worried about that bowl all night😂 Did you take pictures of it? Always wanted to know how they did that. Wonder if it would of been better to melt it first? Don't let the Irish hear ya....they are a sensitive lot
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Post by jamesp on Jan 10, 2018 13:25:42 GMT -5
No worry. Going to leave this one in tact. May collect glass and set the 'finds' aside for a collection for a sale. By more tumble stuff. Weighs 5 pounds 15.5 ounces, a chunk. Broke the glass blowers millefiori sticks into nubby lengths for tumbling with the hammer. They were not really well bounded together. Fellow looks Irish, maybe he needs Italian blood in his veins. That was cold. Thank God. I worried about that bowl all night😂 Did you take pictures of it? Always wanted to know how they did that. Wonder if it would of been better to melt it first? Don't let the Irish hear ya....they are a sensitive lot Sure looks like it was poured into a mold. I can take photos of it easily, what way do you want to see it ? Irish sensitive, they also love to fight. Good at it too. Rooster done, posted in tumble photos. Not one single bruise - yippee !!
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Post by MsAli on Jan 10, 2018 15:00:05 GMT -5
I have to do more research on it. I know this piece is mid century. Could if been a mold? I'll go check out the rooster! Great job on no bruises😊
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Post by jamesp on Jan 10, 2018 20:51:38 GMT -5
I have to do more research on it. I know this piece is mid century. Could if been a mold? I'll go check out the rooster! Great job on no bruises😊 I brought home a Kosta piece from Sweden back in the mid 80's. Just happened to remember that name since we were talking about this green piece. Pulled it out and studied it. Looks like it was made in a mold too. thick and clear like ice and has scenes cast in it. So this bowl may be 60 or 70 years old ? Tried finding a scratch, no such. Even the bottom has none. Checked out Etsy for Kosta bowls. They have lots and the prices look great. Have you looked at glass on Etsy ? Finished breaking all the glass and stuffed in a rotary tumbler. Split the glass into 3 tumblers by thicknesses so the thin glass would not get too thin. Started at about 60 pounds, will end up being less than 30 pounds. Then it will take at least 15 runs in the little vibe to polish it all. So the rotary tumbler can be shut down, take a break. Actually looking forward to buying and crunching more discount store glass. addictive But trying other discount stores since Home Goods is getting repetitive. They do carry Italian made though
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Post by toolnut on Jan 10, 2018 21:46:24 GMT -5
I have to do more research on it. I know this piece is mid century. Could if been a mold? I'll go check out the rooster! Great job on no bruises😊 Looks like slices of the Millifori where stacked next ot each other, with filler frit, fused together in a kiln and then the sheet was draped over a mold, bottom up, to form the piece. Have made vases out of sheet glass that look exactly like this form.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 11, 2018 0:10:58 GMT -5
I have to do more research on it. I know this piece is mid century. Could if been a mold? I'll go check out the rooster! Great job on no bruises😊 I brought home a Kosta piece from Sweden back in the mid 80's. Just happened to remember that name since we were talking about this green piece. Pulled it out and studied it. Looks like it was made in a mold too. thick and clear like ice and has scenes cast in it. So this bowl may be 60 or 70 years old ? Tried finding a scratch, no such. Even the bottom has none. Checked out Etsy for Kosta bowls. They have lots and the prices look great. Have you looked at glass on Etsy ? Finished breaking all the glass and stuffed in a rotary tumbler. Split the glass into 3 tumblers by thicknesses so the thin glass would not get too thin. Started at about 60 pounds, will end up being less than 30 pounds. Then it will take at least 15 runs in the little vibe to polish it all. So the rotary tumbler can be shut down, take a break. Actually looking forward to buying and crunching more discount store glass. addictive But trying other discount stores since Home Goods is getting repetitive. They do carry Italian made though I have looked at glass on there. I use to sell on there as well. Made some.nice cash on some Murano and Fenton that I never should of let go. Owell......From what I can find on your green bowl it is hand blown and not a mold. Hard to believe huh? But you should see one of my Muranos, it would blow you away with how they did it. With the Kosta Boda label it was made in the 70's to 80's. Any pieces with just a Kosta label was made prior to that and the value would increase. Home goods does have a nice selection, but sometimes so does Marshalls and Tuesday Morning. Bonus is they tend to be cheaper there.
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Post by MsAli on Jan 11, 2018 0:14:32 GMT -5
I have to do more research on it. I know this piece is mid century. Could if been a mold? I'll go check out the rooster! Great job on no bruises😊 Looks like slices of the Millifori where stacked next ot each other, with filler frit, fused together in a kiln and then the sheet was draped over a mold, bottom up, to form the piece. Have made vases out of sheet glass that look exactly like this form. Are you referring to the Rooster or Kosta Boda? Neither one is Millefiori
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Post by bevsmith1960 on Jan 11, 2018 10:08:54 GMT -5
Sounds like my darlin' wife unit and my rock collection. She says that if&when I die, she will be calling 1 800 GOT JUNK to come haul it all away. I tell her not to be so flippant about it and that she could sell it all and buy 2 of the houses we live in and have enough left over to furnish them. Think she says such to get my goat. I explain that I won't be in any position to care what she does. That usually shuts her up. I hope she enjoys selling rocks! A grand posthumous haunting scheme by means of minerals. *grin* Your buddy was a dumbass just throwing money away like that. Wonder if there were underlying issues. Yes there were underlying issues. Mr Vick pretty much divorced her for the hoarding issues. The house was so packed with pottery it looked like a messy museum with a path. And I bet Steve got chewed out for breaking some of the pottery when he and little brother were wrestling in the house. Steve could have placed one call to a pottery auction house and they would have quoted him a fat price and hauled it off. Nope, he wanted to destroy it, no doubt. 😭
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jan 11, 2018 10:50:40 GMT -5
I love those-fan of purple I have bunch of pharmaceutical bottles in storage. Wonder if they are taken out of the sun for a while they go back to normal?
Do they change back to clear ?
Came across this pdf info The Color Purple: Dating Solarized Amethyst Container Glass (it is only 12 pages)
Everything you may want to know about amethyst glass, and more!
Solarized glass can go back to normal, but not by simply taking it out of the sun -
from the above link
"Gaffield (1881:6) also noted that sun-colored fragments of glass could be “restored to their original color by being placed in the kiln during a single fire.” In other words, heating the glass would reverse the sun’s action and alter the specimens back to a colorless form (see the chemical discussion of this phenomenon above). He noted that this phenomenon had been reported as early as 1867."
Here are the ones I brought back
A bag full of shards
Treatment. A soak in this cleans the dirt well, but does nothing for "sick glass."
after soaking
Pieces half-buried in the dirt (or protected from the sun in some way) would get partial purple coloring.
I don't enough to use either of the large tumblers, may have to break out one of the older/smaller tumblers to do just a small batch.
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Post by bevsmith1960 on Jan 11, 2018 11:03:27 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2018 11:05:13 GMT -5
I brought home a Kosta piece from Sweden back in the mid 80's. Just happened to remember that name since we were talking about this green piece. Pulled it out and studied it. Looks like it was made in a mold too. thick and clear like ice and has scenes cast in it. So this bowl may be 60 or 70 years old ? Tried finding a scratch, no such. Even the bottom has none. Checked out Etsy for Kosta bowls. They have lots and the prices look great. Have you looked at glass on Etsy ? Finished breaking all the glass and stuffed in a rotary tumbler. Split the glass into 3 tumblers by thicknesses so the thin glass would not get too thin. Started at about 60 pounds, will end up being less than 30 pounds. Then it will take at least 15 runs in the little vibe to polish it all. So the rotary tumbler can be shut down, take a break. Actually looking forward to buying and crunching more discount store glass. addictive But trying other discount stores since Home Goods is getting repetitive. They do carry Italian made though I have looked at glass on there. I use to sell on there as well. Made some.nice cash on some Murano and Fenton that I never should of let go. Owell......From what I can find on your green bowl it is hand blown and not a mold. Hard to believe huh? But you should see one of my Muranos, it would blow you away with how they did it. With the Kosta Boda label it was made in the 70's to 80's. Any pieces with just a Kosta label was made prior to that and the value would increase. Home goods does have a nice selection, but sometimes so does Marshalls and Tuesday Morning. Bonus is they tend to be cheaper there. You need to come to Atlanta, so many places to tumble(I mean glass)hunt. So you have sold/bought, cool. Etsy at that. Etsy had a wide assortment, with educational descriptions. Good place to appraise. Well, the yesterday discovery of Etsy may not be good for the glass population, I see some hot items on there. One of the Home Goods store had about 6 giant bowls maybe 24 inches across. Heavy glass too. Stretched. But monotone or bitone colors. Murano 'process'. It appears these Murano 'process' pieces end up at Home Goods because they have what seems to be ugly colors. Ugly in eye of beholder.. At 1/4 to 3/8 inches thick they are my favorites for tumbling, the Murano process. I need to take some photos so you can see what is going on here in these shops. you know I have no competition, smashing pieces for tumbling. who does such ?
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2018 11:08:45 GMT -5
Ok, this is a cool find. exposure to sun, half baked. Great example rockpickerforever. That purple glass is quite rare up here around Atlanta, the norm in manganese rich N Florida. Atlanta has lots of blue/green.
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Post by captbob on Jan 11, 2018 11:10:33 GMT -5
Finally got to go outside without my nose hairs freezing! 😉 This is part of my broken treasures. I'm wondering if there is a way to just smooth the broken side. ? In the last pic the glass is too thin to tumble (?) But if I could just smooth the edges, I'd be able to drill it to hang. Thank you SO much 😊 you see what you have started!
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Post by jamesp on Jan 11, 2018 12:06:44 GMT -5
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