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Post by vegasjames on Feb 7, 2018 1:59:17 GMT -5
I joined the Rock Club here in Huntsville and now I have a key to a room with at least 8 saws at no additional cost. I would love to join the club we have here, however, they only meet on Thursdays and I am at work The other option it to go use a guys saws that is close by, but he charges $30.00 to use his equipment
Club meetings should be different than shop times. For instance our club is $25/yr for a single person and we pay $5/hr to use the equipment and classes are $5 each. We meet the first Monday of each month, but the shop is open 7 days a week for member use.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2018 3:05:19 GMT -5
Yes Alison needs a the saw. I got a Ryobi from H Depot for $108. It has great design. Full surround drip gutter around table top. Nice and dry. Don't mean to change things up too much, but that's the same saw I bought last year. Lucked out and got a brand new one on CL for $65. Owner had bought it for a one-time tile job but ended up hiring out the work. Never used the saw. Only limitation, other than height of cut, is that it would not accept the grinding blade that you like without modifying the opening in the deck. I didn't do the modifying, and the blade found a new home. Dave You got it for a song. Great deal. Tile saws do get purchased for one time home jobs and pawned off regularly. Check pawn shops MsAli. I retract my referral on this Ryobi based on Dave's discovery as low blade height sucks. I have not had enough time to check into the adjustments on that saw. Thanks for the head's up Dave. I had to cut my glass brick down to size to get some cuts going parallel to the melt and did not even try raising blade. Darn. I have to have 2 tile saws for glass. The old tile saw will be fitted with a thin fine diamond blade for chip free thin cuts since blade has full height. Tiny kerf cuts needed. No need for the 1/4" thick 'bruiser' grinding blade for glass Dave, glass grinds like butter on a common tile saw blade. The Ryobi will be fitted with a 7 inch(Rigid brand) blade with coarse diamonds designed for cutting concrete for grinding jobs. The low blade height is actually preferable for grinding against side of blade, Ryobi will do fine for that application. Dave, did you have difficulty bolting the blade down on the Ryobi ? The motor shaft threads seem damaged or very tight. I even stole the gland nut off the old tile saw and it was difficult to screw down on the blade of the Ryobi. I had to stack washers since the nut jams after 3rd rotation onto threads. I don't like the fixed reservoir you mentioned on the Ryobi either. The old saw has a slide out tray that can be quickly removed to clean the rock snot out. A drain hose will be needed or tray will be needed to catch the overflow on the Ryobi. However a drain tube to a 5 gallon bucket below is actually preferable since saw will not be moved much.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2018 3:53:00 GMT -5
Mac and cheese with greens at 1450F for today's menu. It's done. Can't open kiln till responsible tasks are completed, Pavlov's training. Needing a thinner mold so bricks will be bigger. manofglass educating me. Thanks Walt.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2018 9:50:47 GMT -5
Carrots, collards and squash , seems to be cooling down fine.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 7, 2018 9:57:31 GMT -5
Ohhh, its that heavy? Liked the piece as a whole, but now? ?? Win some, loose some, I suppose..... Interesting stuff, nevertheless! i will tumble polish them Kurt, then they should get your good attention. If you put them back in the kiln won't they round the edges and won't need tumbling. If your making a thin vomit then put a piece of fiber or chalk they will have a hole for a cord. Cut....rekiln sell for 15 a piece
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Post by jamesp on Feb 7, 2018 11:27:20 GMT -5
i will tumble polish them Kurt, then they should get your good attention. If you put them back in the kiln won't they round the edges and won't need tumbling. If your making a thin vomit then put a piece of fiber or chalk they will have a hole for a cord. Cut....rekiln sell for 15 a piece Would that require drilling a hole to put the chalk in ?
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Post by MrP on Feb 7, 2018 11:35:00 GMT -5
jamesp Not trying to tell you how to do your job but if you mixed clear in with the colored it would make the colored go further and I would think the pendant options would be greater. I do like what you are creating but the cheap me thinks stretching out the colored glass would just bring more options to the table. When I buy glass to cut I like finding pieces with clear in them because I like that look in a pendant. Maybe that is just me?...............MrP
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Post by aDave on Feb 7, 2018 12:34:00 GMT -5
You got it for a song. Great deal. Tile saws do get purchased for one time home jobs and pawned off regularly. Check pawn shops MsAli . I retract my referral on this Ryobi based on Dave's discovery as low blade height sucks. I have not had enough time to check into the adjustments on that saw. Thanks for the head's up Dave. I had to cut my glass brick down to size to get some cuts going parallel to the melt and did not even try raising blade. Darn. I have to have 2 tile saws for glass. The old tile saw will be fitted with a thin fine diamond blade for chip free thin cuts since blade has full height. Tiny kerf cuts needed. No need for the 1/4" thick 'bruiser' grinding blade for glass Dave, glass grinds like butter on a common tile saw blade. The Ryobi will be fitted with a 7 inch(Rigid brand) blade with coarse diamonds designed for cutting concrete for grinding jobs. The low blade height is actually preferable for grinding against side of blade, Ryobi will do fine for that application. Dave, did you have difficulty bolting the blade down on the Ryobi ? The motor shaft threads seem damaged or very tight. I even stole the gland nut off the old tile saw and it was difficult to screw down on the blade of the Ryobi. I had to stack washers since the nut jams after 3rd rotation onto threads. I don't like the fixed reservoir you mentioned on the Ryobi either. The old saw has a slide out tray that can be quickly removed to clean the rock snot out. A drain hose will be needed or tray will be needed to catch the overflow on the Ryobi. However a drain tube to a 5 gallon bucket below is actually preferable since saw will not be moved much. James, if I recall correctly, the max cutting height for the saw is 1.5." Looks to be a fixed blade height...probably due to how the blade has to sit in the water. Is your glass thicker than 1.5"? I have not had any issues at all mounting any blades. The flanges (is that what you call them?) snug right up against the sides of the blades, and the nut screws right on...no resistance at all. I can screw the nut all the way on simply by hand and then finish up with the wrenches. Sounds like your saw definitely has an issue in that regard. That's a great idea about setting up a drain hose for the Ryobi. Right now when I cut, I'm doing so on the lawn so any overflow runs unto the lawn for watering purposes. If you end up figuring something out, James, I'd greatly appreciate seeing your idea. When I get some free time, I'll take a look at the reservoir plug to see what I can come up with. Maybe something as simple as a rubber stopper and tubing might work. Don't know.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 7, 2018 12:42:18 GMT -5
If you put them back in the kiln won't they round the edges and won't need tumbling. If your making a thin vomit then put a piece of fiber or chalk they will have a hole for a cord. Cut....rekiln sell for 15 a piece Would that require drilling a hole to put the chalk in ? You would put the chalk or fiber in when you build the original. Are you putting a clear cap on? Kind of hard to do if not working with flat glass. Maybe two thin plates sandwiched.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 7, 2018 12:53:07 GMT -5
I think this shows process with dicroic glass. Not sure because it won't play where I am.
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Post by toiv0 on Feb 7, 2018 13:08:20 GMT -5
Might as well make a slump bowl when you are playing.
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Post by amygdule on Feb 7, 2018 19:36:04 GMT -5
jamesp , your glass melts remind me of these "Stained Glass Jello" recipes
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Post by 1dave on Feb 7, 2018 21:04:00 GMT -5
Why not toss in a few garnet crystals?
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Post by MsAli on Feb 7, 2018 21:08:33 GMT -5
Why not toss in a few garnet crystals? ooohhhh now you're talking!!
Probably could throw all kinds of things in it
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Post by jamesp on Feb 8, 2018 7:57:40 GMT -5
jamesp Not trying to tell you how to do your job but if you mixed clear in with the colored it would make the colored go further and I would think the pendant options would be greater. I do like what you are creating but the cheap me thinks stretching out the colored glass would just bring more options to the table. When I buy glass to cut I like finding pieces with clear in them because I like that look in a pendant. Maybe that is just me?...............MrP This is the typical scrap from one glass artist Michael. Hand picked colored pieces. Most of the chunks are clear. The color is a thin layer trapped in clear glass in these select pieces. When these are melted together it is a busy mess of vomit. Are you saying it would be better to mix more clear chunks in the melt to spread out the color ? I could understand that. This glass debris is about 70% clear glass and what you see in the photo below is the 30% hand picked color. Note, the other glass artist has a layer of opaque white in most of his glass go figure. The opaque white is a game changer.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 8, 2018 8:21:07 GMT -5
Would that require drilling a hole to put the chalk in ? You would put the chalk or fiber in when you build the original. Are you putting a clear cap on? Kind of hard to do if not working with flat glass. Maybe two thin plates sandwiched. I'm just melting giant bricks and sawing or hammering them into pendant tumbles Billy. I won't be fusing individual pendants. 6"x 6" x 2" Glass brick ready for slabbing in the 18 inch saw. Will make another mold for thicker 6" x 6" x 4" bricks for easier clamping, about max for my kiln.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 8, 2018 8:34:36 GMT -5
Why not toss in a few garnet crystals? ooohhhh now you're talking!!
Probably could throw all kinds of things in it
Why not toss in a few garnet crystals? I have a 100 pounds of fine glassy old stock BB sized almandine abrasive garnets. Nice glassy red/purple jewels. Some even tumbled. I may have a problem with a difference in coefficient of expansion of garnets to glass though, could cause cracks. Imagine them cast into crystal clear glass. Excellent idea. Agates will NOT hold up to the heat though, but garnets will if they are dry. Another issue is if the glass will adhere to the garnets and make an air bubble free bond. Could be cohesive bond problems...
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Post by jamesp on Feb 8, 2018 8:36:29 GMT -5
jamesp , your glass melts remind me of these "Stained Glass Jello" recipes You be the man amygdule
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Post by jamesp on Feb 8, 2018 8:53:41 GMT -5
You got it for a song. Great deal. Tile saws do get purchased for one time home jobs and pawned off regularly. Check pawn shops MsAli . I retract my referral on this Ryobi based on Dave's discovery as low blade height sucks. I have not had enough time to check into the adjustments on that saw. Thanks for the head's up Dave. I had to cut my glass brick down to size to get some cuts going parallel to the melt and did not even try raising blade. Darn. I have to have 2 tile saws for glass. The old tile saw will be fitted with a thin fine diamond blade for chip free thin cuts since blade has full height. Tiny kerf cuts needed. No need for the 1/4" thick 'bruiser' grinding blade for glass Dave, glass grinds like butter on a common tile saw blade. The Ryobi will be fitted with a 7 inch(Rigid brand) blade with coarse diamonds designed for cutting concrete for grinding jobs. The low blade height is actually preferable for grinding against side of blade, Ryobi will do fine for that application. Dave, did you have difficulty bolting the blade down on the Ryobi ? The motor shaft threads seem damaged or very tight. I even stole the gland nut off the old tile saw and it was difficult to screw down on the blade of the Ryobi. I had to stack washers since the nut jams after 3rd rotation onto threads. I don't like the fixed reservoir you mentioned on the Ryobi either. The old saw has a slide out tray that can be quickly removed to clean the rock snot out. A drain hose will be needed or tray will be needed to catch the overflow on the Ryobi. However a drain tube to a 5 gallon bucket below is actually preferable since saw will not be moved much. James, if I recall correctly, the max cutting height for the saw is 1.5." Looks to be a fixed blade height...probably due to how the blade has to sit in the water. Is your glass thicker than 1.5"? I have not had any issues at all mounting any blades. The flanges (is that what you call them?) snug right up against the sides of the blades, and the nut screws right on...no resistance at all. I can screw the nut all the way on simply by hand and then finish up with the wrenches. Sounds like your saw definitely has an issue in that regard. That's a great idea about setting up a drain hose for the Ryobi. Right now when I cut, I'm doing so on the lawn so any overflow runs unto the lawn for watering purposes. If you end up figuring something out, James, I'd greatly appreciate seeing your idea. When I get some free time, I'll take a look at the reservoir plug to see what I can come up with. Maybe something as simple as a rubber stopper and tubing might work. Don't know. Pretty sure 1.5 inches is all we get on the Ryobi Dave. My old tile saw does 2.5 inches. Ryobi for a coarse grinding tile saw blade. The old tile saw for a thin fine blade for cutting. I will install a drain on the Ryobi one way or another. To be drained into a bucket with a handle. Maybe an overhead gravity feed water supply. I guess you use a toy sand box shovel to clean out the reservoir. After sawing only 2 glass bricks I darn near filled the reservoir up with rock snot. The thick tile saw blade needs to be replaced with a thinner blade w/less kerf. Maybe a jewelry grade blade. Glass will never wear it out. I'll be glade to share the drain arrangement. May have to be Ruth Goldberg....
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Post by MrP on Feb 8, 2018 9:00:33 GMT -5
You would put the chalk or fiber in when you build the original. Are you putting a clear cap on? Kind of hard to do if not working with flat glass. Maybe two thin plates sandwiched. I'm just melting giant bricks and sawing or hammering them into pendant tumbles Billy. I won't be fusing individual pendants. 6"x 6" x 2" Glass brick ready for slabbing in the 18 inch saw. Will make another mold for thicker 6" x 6" x 4" bricks for easier clamping, about max for my kiln. James I am saying spread the color out more. That is a neat looking jumble of colors but with more clear they would be separated more and I think may look even better. With all the colors you would still have a concentration of colors. Sounds like you have a large supply of colored glass but if this really goes well for you even a large supply can get small in a hurry......................................MrP
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