kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 9, 2018 16:39:05 GMT -5
Hi I'm Joe living in Virginia Beach Va. I am very new to rock and crystal finding. I'm looking to do some research on here to see what direction is best for me to head in this hobby. Plan to look at DIY stuff first, as money is a concern. Glad to have found you. greetings, lots of stuff to find around the Potomac river, find a local club to join as well, they do field trips and have loads of info, the club here is $15 per year for family.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 20:23:15 GMT -5
I was guessing, but I seem to recall either locally or maybe here, places you can collect for 'private' use but you can't sell the stuff you collect and there's some limits, either frequency or weight. I thought that is what he was describing. Most likely the government would see it as a business if they got involved, hopefully they don't but if they do/did it would be very ugly. Why would it be ugly? Unless you mean tax avoidance, we haven't even determined if a law is broken. if they looked into, or investigated it anyway I don't think it would turn out well, aka ugly for the person being looked at. I mean I'm not aware of needing to pay taxes for a hobby or occasional sales of something. If it's regular sales it seems it is engaging in business but I don't know a whole lot about that.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 20:18:37 GMT -5
it is a thickening agent, not sure if it goes rancid but doesn't seem like it should. Its a non newtonian fluid making agent. Google “oobleck”. At rest its a solid. Add the energy of the vibrations and its a fluid. The concept is quite interesting indeed. No clue if it would work, but it would be fun! very interesting, seems like it may.....
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 16:44:15 GMT -5
have you ever used corn starch? Interesting experiment. The vibes adding energy would prevent it from becoming solid..... Hmmm... it is a thickening agent, not sure if it goes rancid but doesn't seem like it should.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 16:39:57 GMT -5
sounds illegal, it's not a hobby if you are selling that much etc but I think the question you want an answer to but aren't asking is would you turn them in, I would not. What law is broken? The difference between a hobby and a business to the IRS is the business license. Either way income must be reported. In the hobby side losses cannot be deducted. I'm aware of million dollar "hobby" folks. Taxes properly paid. Kevin, where do you draw the hobby line? I was guessing, but I seem to recall either locally or maybe here, places you can collect for 'private' use but you can't sell the stuff you collect and there's some limits, either frequency or weight. I thought that is what he was describing.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 14:53:02 GMT -5
I think you know the answer already. I know what my own answers would be, yes. I'm interested to hear what other people think. Perhaps my moral compass is wound too tightly? sounds illegal, it's not a hobby if you are selling that much etc but I think the question you want an answer to but aren't asking is would you turn them in, I would not.
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 13:53:04 GMT -5
Here's some of what I have in the tumblers, jamesp. Still sitting idle for the time being. I hope you will make them smaller. Lest you got some tumbling tricks up your sleeve to avoid bruises. I am fooling around with sugar thickener again on the glass. Looks to be working in the way of preventing bruises. Sticky hands though. Double pretty glass, can't wait. I always run a few tempered table top glass pieces in the load to see if bruises are happening. It is really soft, I know it is soft because it rounds about 3 times faster than bottle and chunk glass in the rotary. it is this glass, I knew I had glass mastered when this stuff polished with only 40% media. have you ever used corn starch?
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Post by kevin24018 on Jan 4, 2018 8:21:03 GMT -5
Rooster breast day 6. Early in tumble so it is getting a few small divots from the high speed grind at 63 RPM in an 8 inch barrel w/bulk grit. Next clean out will move to 30 RPM and SiC 50 to remove damage. very cool, I am a breast man, interpret that as you will lol
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Post by kevin24018 on Dec 29, 2017 11:57:28 GMT -5
I would say at some point before the final stages, once you can tell what the end shape will be seems like a good point to drill. The coarse steps might enlarge or misshape the hole depending on the hardness of the stone etc. In the end you want the hole to be blended and shiny as the rest or at the very least so you don't notice it. My initial thoughts would be to drill before the last 2 stages generally, but it may require experimentation. This was my thought as well. I am going to drill a few before the polish stage......I would also think that if I drilled before the last 2 stages the rock might break down at the drill point and be lost completley? I see that as a potential concern as well, especially in a rotary tumbler, how close to the edge you drill it, several variables.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Dec 29, 2017 11:23:15 GMT -5
I would say at some point before the final stages, once you can tell what the end shape will be seems like a good point to drill. The coarse steps might enlarge or misshape the hole depending on the hardness of the stone etc. In the end you want the hole to be blended and shiny as the rest or at the very least so you don't notice it. My initial thoughts would be to drill before the last 2 stages generally, but it may require experimentation.
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Post by kevin24018 on Dec 29, 2017 9:30:15 GMT -5
I have, now if the nightmares will just stop....... another option would be some automotive paint touch up pen thingy if you can get a close match that is.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Dec 29, 2017 7:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by kevin24018 on Dec 28, 2017 16:11:04 GMT -5
Been hearing the news stories of the record cold. There's some seriously cold temps in the headlines. I've seen several posts about your cold, too. So, where are you and how cold is it? Hovering around 40 here at the beach. They were calling for snow today and Fri.. Probably won't get any today. I've seen much colder temps here. I don't think that arctic blast will make it this far south to Virginia, though. it was 18 today, warmed up to 25, could have used some of that global warming today, sigh.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Dec 27, 2017 9:44:49 GMT -5
Found this 7 pound solid glass rooster in a HotAtlanta thrift store for $15. Hate to take a hammer to it but that's what is going to happen. With cullet glass chunks costing $10 to $20 per pound this is a bargain. Made in China, exquisitely done. Sorry Mr. Rooster. such nice colors, I think I would cut parts of it to maybe get some larger and possibly rounder pieces, neat stuff.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Nov 20, 2017 15:21:50 GMT -5
Hey, Duke, I have this saw also. I had trouble using it until I added a vice onto it. I'm sure a resourceful guy like you can do a better job of it, but I went the down and dirty route. Sorry for the crappy low-light cell phone pics, but you'll get the idea.
neat, looks like you could hang a counter weight to pull it into the blade as well?
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Nov 20, 2017 12:02:53 GMT -5
I seem to remember reading certain type of motors you should use a speed controller on. I can't recall the specifics but do a bit of research with the specs on that motor just to be sure before using that controller. Better to be safe than burn out the motor. You cannot use a speed control on an Induction type motor aka no brushes this motor has brushes same as a router. All is well ah ok, good to know, thanks.
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Nov 20, 2017 8:27:35 GMT -5
I seem to remember reading certain type of motors you should use a speed controller on. I can't recall the specifics but do a bit of research with the specs on that motor just to be sure before using that controller. Better to be safe than burn out the motor.
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Post by kevin24018 on Nov 14, 2017 8:17:29 GMT -5
brilliant, great fit too!
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Nov 11, 2017 17:21:22 GMT -5
I'll take box 16
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kevin24018
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Post by kevin24018 on Nov 1, 2017 7:06:37 GMT -5
it sold for 399, and there's no motor which would be another 100 possibly less, it's an ok deal imo. for me, I'd get a 10 inch harbor freight tile saw for 209
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