rocknewb101
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 8, 2023 11:01:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry for the many posts today! I did a faux pas with one of my cabs - I'm a bit embarrassed by it, so please don't judge lol...Was dopping the below - excited to work on a piece with druzy, completely not even thinking that THIS was going to happen  . I say I'm allowed one 'dumb moment' each year...this is it! Is there any hope? Anyone have suggestions for how i can get this out without damaging, or leaving green residue? TIA!  |
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realrockhound
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Post by realrockhound on Aug 8, 2023 11:25:57 GMT -5
Freeze it. Pick it out with a thumb tack or something with a thin hard point
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Post by Pat on Aug 8, 2023 11:43:40 GMT -5
Pearl knotting tweezers helpful.
Regular tweezers.
Straight pin.
Good luck!
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 8, 2023 12:09:34 GMT -5
Freeze it. Pick it out with a thumb tack or something with a thin hard point Ahh! yes - thanks realrockhound. That might actually work - freezing pops the stick off fairly easily so hopefully I can just pick it out in one piece. |
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 8, 2023 12:10:33 GMT -5
Pearl knotting tweezers helpful. Regular tweezers. Straight pin. Good luck! Thank you! I will definitely try that..lordie. what an error to make. Thanks for the suggestion!! |
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Post by rockbrain on Aug 8, 2023 12:59:42 GMT -5
What others suggested has worked for me. That one's not even filled up to bad, just don't use a lot of force removing the cab from the dop. I've started filling mine with clay now before dopping. That should be a nice looking cab!
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Post by liveoak on Aug 8, 2023 13:04:26 GMT -5
Rubbing alcohol takes residue off the back of a cab- so maybe soaking it ? Patty
BTW- not a dumb moment at all - especially if we all learn form your mistake.
Now, if you keep doing it, well then that's another story  |
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rocknewb101
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 8, 2023 14:20:04 GMT -5
What others suggested has worked for me. That one's not even filled up to bad, just don't use a lot of force removing the cab from the dop. I've started filling mine with clay now before dopping. That should be a nice looking cab! Awesome! Good to know! I will be careful with it. Ahh - and I bet the clay just washes out? Thanks! I hope it turns out lol... Rubbing alcohol takes residue off the back of a cab- so maybe soaking it ? Patty
BTW- not a dumb moment at all - especially if we all learn form your mistake.
Now, if you keep doing it, well then that's another story I'll give it a shot! Thanks, Patty. Ha! This is true - thank you - will not repeat that mistake lol... |
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Post by chris1956 on Aug 8, 2023 16:12:54 GMT -5
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Post by gunsil on Aug 8, 2023 16:18:33 GMT -5
That looks like a fairly large cab. I never dop unless down to about 18x13 or smaller cabs. I have hand held 18x13 cabs, not really hard, but easy on larger cabs. If you got the cabbing machine try hand holding for larger cabs, no dop, no mess. I don't know how well hand holding does on the slant cabber but on wheels it works just fine. I was taught hand holding when I started, to me it's a lot easier than using dop sticks unless it is a small cab.
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 8, 2023 16:27:38 GMT -5
Thank you! I think I'll try to freeze it out first (my dops fall right off and I'm hopeful this might work the same), but it that doesn't work, or it leaves residue then I'll try for sure. That looks like a fairly large cab. I never dop unless down to about 18x13 or smaller cabs. I have hand held 18x13 cabs, not really hard, but easy on larger cabs. If you got the cabbing machine try hand holding for larger cabs, no dop, no mess. I don't know how well hand holding does on the slant cabber but on wheels it works just fine. I was taught hand holding when I started, to me it's a lot easier than using dop sticks unless it is a small cab. yeah, it's pretty big. I really struggle with dexterity in my fingers so that's why I dop. So many times the wheel has taken the rock right out of my fingers and flung it across the room lol. I will try it when I get the cabbing machine though because I'd like to learn how to do it that way. Dopping is much messier  |
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Post by Starguy on Aug 8, 2023 20:11:01 GMT -5
Your dilemma kind of made me chuckle. I wouldn’t have thought of that either. Everyone has good advice to fix it.
You’re smart to dop for several reasons. It protects your fingers, it gives you more control while cabbing and it supports the stone. Proper dopping can help prevent breakage of the cab while you’re working on it.
Nice preform!
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Post by perkins17 on Aug 8, 2023 21:12:08 GMT -5
Dopping is a good habit to get into. I do it with locktite. I use a little torch, butane mini guy, or just a lighter/candle. Since wax melts, this might work for you.
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 10, 2023 8:44:27 GMT -5
Your dilemma kind of made me chuckle. I wouldn’t have thought of that either. Everyone has good advice to fix it. You’re smart to dop for several reasons. It protects your fingers, it gives you more control while cabbing and it supports the stone. Proper dopping can help prevent breakage of the cab while you’re working on it. Nice preform! haha!! I honestly did a forehead slap when I realized...oh well. As mentioned before as long as I learn from this lol...I do prefer to dop, because I think it's easier to manage - but wouldn't mind trying without with the wheels... Thanks, Brent! Dopping is a good habit to get into. I do it with locktite. I use a little torch, butane mini guy, or just a lighter/candle. Since wax melts, this might work for you. Thank you!! i wondered about setting it back on the dopping machine, but worried that once it melted it would get further into grooves, etc...I've seen others use super glue too...thought that was interesting. |
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Post by rmf on Aug 10, 2023 19:04:01 GMT -5
Acetone works as well. Just soak the tooth brush and soap for the residue. Ultrasonic is also helpful after the Acetone/Alcohol soak.
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Post by Time on Aug 10, 2023 19:25:21 GMT -5
That is going to be an awesome cab, fingers crossed on the freeze technique.
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Post by jasoninsd on Aug 10, 2023 20:21:37 GMT -5
Don't you have kids in the house? If they're away...maybe a neighborhood kid could lend a hand...errr....finger!  *Sorry...I had to! LOL - Several good ideas already stated...so I thought I'd add a dumb one! LOL |
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 11, 2023 9:51:50 GMT -5
Acetone works as well. Just soak the tooth brush and soap for the residue. Ultrasonic is also helpful after the Acetone/Alcohol soak. Thanks rmf! I will give this a shot if the freeze method doesn't get it all out. That is going to be an awesome cab, fingers crossed on the freeze technique. Thank you!! I hope so lol...it LOOKS like it'll be awesome, but I gotta get it there first lol... Don't you have kids in the house? If they're away...maybe a neighborhood kid could lend a hand...errr....finger! *Sorry...I had to! LOL - Several good ideas already stated...so I thought I'd add a dumb one! LOL Omg - thank you for that laugh. I'm sure i can find a neighborhood kid or two  |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Aug 11, 2023 12:21:23 GMT -5
The acetone soak will get it all out. Make sure you use a small jar with a lid and put the lid on. It will evaporate quickly if you don't (and it is flammable). Just let it soak for a day and then take it out and wash it good with soap and water.
The freezing and picking out the wax are good ideas, too, but you run the risk of popping druzy crystals out.
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Post by rocknewb101 on Aug 11, 2023 15:02:12 GMT -5
The acetone soak will get it all out. Make sure you use a small jar with a lid and put the lid on. It will evaporate quickly if you don't (and it is flammable). Just let it soak for a day and then take it out and wash it good with soap and water. The freezing and picking out the wax are good ideas, too, but you run the risk of popping druzy crystals out. Oh! I didn't consider losing my crystals by freezing - thanks, Robin - good to know! |
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