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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 6, 2024 20:19:31 GMT -5
I got a QT-12 for christmas and ever since then, I have already had to replace the belt. I adjusted it it out of the box because I touched the motor and it was pretty jiggly. I tightened it up thinking everything will be just fine. However when I filled the barrel with the appropriate amount of rocks, it started making a skidding noise. It will stop and then when I touch the frame it will start again. Just wondering if that's normal or if I should replace it. Thanks.
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Post by chris1956 on Jan 6, 2024 20:31:16 GMT -5
Well something isn't right. I have a QT12 that like yours at one time stopped turning but would turn a little if I nudged it. I replaced the belt and it worked fine. When I did this I really couldn't tell that the original belt had much wear or looked or felt much different than the new one. But the new one worked. You might check with Lortone to see what they say although I haven't heard a lot of good things about their support lately.
When I replaced the belt, I also cleaned the pulleys as best I could thinking that buildup on those might be the problem and cause the belt to slip.
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 6, 2024 20:52:23 GMT -5
Ok! Did yours have any skidding sounds when it came new? I have checked and aligned everything. I checked the motor with out anything mounted on to it and it sound perfectly fine. The new belt I just ordered doesn't have any defects so far. I'm guessing since the belt is a gravity-tightening belt the ridges and teeth on the belt might be rubbing against something. Right now it sound pretty good but I'm still letting it run to see if it stays that way. I have had more trouble with this so far than the Chicago electric dual drum rotary tumblers. Contrary to popular belief, the only problem I have had is the barrels rubbing against the sides. The motors work really well. The only thing I did was re-align the belt straight out of the box. I would replace the belt every three months just so it works a little better. Oil the inner bearings of the rollers and ALWAYS clean up oil or rubber dust. This large tumbler though is making me nervous. I'm going to be very upset if it does end up completely breaking. I'm ight just have to modify the motor mount and the belt system. Thank you for responding so quickly though.
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Post by dillonf on Jan 6, 2024 20:53:10 GMT -5
I got a QT-12 for christmas and ever since then, I have already had to replace the belt. I adjusted it it out of the box because I touched the motor and it was pretty jiggly. I tightened it up thinking everything will be just fine. However when I filled the barrel with the appropriate amount of rocks, it started making a skidding noise. It will stop and then when I touch the frame it will start again. Just wondering if that's normal or if I should replace it. Thanks. Sorry to hear you are having this problem! Something seems wrong. I have 2 QT12s, and my belts last about a year and a half to 2 years. I just purchased some of those tan ones that are supposed to be more durable, but I haven't had to use them yet. You might have tightened the belt too much and accelerated the wear? Just a thought? Not really sure what you mean by a skidding noise. Does the drive shaft stop spinning? If so this happens to me sometimes when I overload the barrel, but I give it a spin by hand and it starts rolling just fine. Sometimes I get the machine running then add the barrel while the drive shaft is spinning. It is an expensive enough machine that I would contact lortone to get it sorted. Hope you get it fixed- they are a real nice machine. |
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Post by chris1956 on Jan 6, 2024 20:59:09 GMT -5
Ok! Did yours have any skidding sounds when it came new? I have checked and aligned everything. I checked the motor with out anything mounted on to it and it sound perfectly fine. The new belt I just ordered doesn't have any defects so far. I'm guessing since the belt is a gravity-tightening belt the ridges and teeth on the belt might be rubbing against something. Right now it sound pretty good but I'm still letting it run to see if it stays that way. I have had more trouble with this so far than the Chicago electric dual drum rotary tumblers. Contrary to popular belief, the only problem I have had is the barrels rubbing against the sides. The motors work really well. The only thing I did was re-align the belt straight out of the box. I would replace the belt every three months just so it works a little better. Oil the inner bearings of the rollers and ALWAYS clean up oil or rubber dust. This large tumbler though is making me nervous. I'm going to be very upset if it does end up completely breaking. I'm ight just have to modify the motor mount and the belt system. Thank you for responding so quickly though. I didn't have any skidding sounds. |
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 6, 2024 21:06:56 GMT -5
I got a QT-12 for christmas and ever since then, I have already had to replace the belt. I adjusted it it out of the box because I touched the motor and it was pretty jiggly. I tightened it up thinking everything will be just fine. However when I filled the barrel with the appropriate amount of rocks, it started making a skidding noise. It will stop and then when I touch the frame it will start again. Just wondering if that's normal or if I should replace it. Thanks. Sorry to hear you are having this problem! Something seems wrong. I have 2 QT12s, and my belts last about a year and a half to 2 years. I just purchased some of those tan ones that are supposed to be more durable, but I haven't had to use them yet. You might have tightened the belt too much and accelerated the wear? Just a thought? Not really sure what you mean by a skidding noise. Does the drive shaft stop spinning? If so this happens to me sometimes when I overload the barrel, but I give it a spin by hand and it starts rolling just fine. Sometimes I get the machine running then add the barrel while the drive shaft is spinning. It is an expensive enough machine that I would contact lortone to get it sorted. Hope you get it fixed- they are a real nice machine. Response: Yea, I'm pretty sure I tightened it too much. By skidding noise I mean that it sounds like something is lightly scraping something else. The drive shaft doesn't slow down but the belt tension affects its speed. I think I have if fixed right now. It stopped and seems that the only noise I hear is coming from the barrel. I have all the shafts clean and stuff. I'm very very clean with equipment to make sure nothing goes wrong lol. I'm thinking about contacting them promptly. Hopefully this is just its first greetings to me. If you know what I mean. Every tumbler I had always needed some little tweak or something. To be fair this thing is turning 15 pounds of rock so that is a hard job. Hopefully all goes well. Thanks! |
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Post by dillonf on Jan 6, 2024 21:14:30 GMT -5
Sorry to hear you are having this problem! Something seems wrong. I have 2 QT12s, and my belts last about a year and a half to 2 years. I just purchased some of those tan ones that are supposed to be more durable, but I haven't had to use them yet. You might have tightened the belt too much and accelerated the wear? Just a thought? Not really sure what you mean by a skidding noise. Does the drive shaft stop spinning? If so this happens to me sometimes when I overload the barrel, but I give it a spin by hand and it starts rolling just fine. Sometimes I get the machine running then add the barrel while the drive shaft is spinning. It is an expensive enough machine that I would contact lortone to get it sorted. Hope you get it fixed- they are a real nice machine. Response: Yea, I'm pretty sure I tightened it too much. By skidding noise I mean that it sounds like something is lightly scraping something else. The drive shaft doesn't slow down but the belt tension affects its speed. I think I have if fixed right now. It stopped and seems that the only noise I hear is coming from the barrel. I have all the shafts clean and stuff. I'm very very clean with equipment to make sure nothing goes wrong lol. I'm thinking about contacting them promptly. Hopefully this is just its first greetings to me. If you know what I mean. Every tumbler I had always needed some little tweak or something. To be fair this thing is turning 15 pounds of rock so that is a hard job. Hopefully all goes well. Thanks! Based on what you described it sounds like the barrel is slipping on the driveshaft due to not enough friction. It could be possible you cleaned the shaft/barrel to well? I had slippage like that on my old QT and a ran some 500 grit sandpaper on the driveshaft to rough it up, and the barrel started spinning like a top. You can try recleaning it with something that doesn't leave a residue- Windex and see if that helps. |
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 6, 2024 21:36:26 GMT -5
Ok! I'm sorry but I removed the barrel while it was on and it kept making the same sound. Thank you for helping me though. I haven't really cleaned it yet since it hasn't gotten dirty. The barrel seems to have good friction on the rollers. I'm slowly removing all the possible causes. It seems to be something with the pulley system. I might try the Windex though and see if that does anything. I'm very upset that I bought a tumbler worth $70 dollars at Harbor freight and Got this one for almost $400 dollars and have had more problems with it then the harbor freight. If you could post like a picture of yours and the position of motor in the two little sliders cut out to fit the motor that would be great. My motor is currently on the far left facing the pulley system. It seems that the motor could be at a angle so maybe it needs to be at a good angle. If you could post a picture of where you have the motor adjusted to and a video on how it sounds that would be super great. Thanks for trying to help me.
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Post by chris1956 on Jan 6, 2024 22:20:41 GMT -5
Here are a couple pics from my unit. I never have had luck posting videos but will see if I can get one tomorrow when I clean out barrels. Will take some pics with the belt cover off also.   |
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Post by dillonf on Jan 6, 2024 23:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 7, 2024 18:58:35 GMT -5
Thank you guys some much for the videos. I seem to have it semi-fixed. Ill upload some videos of how it sounds and looks if possible
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 7, 2024 23:09:37 GMT -5
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 7, 2024 23:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 7, 2024 23:17:12 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I can't get a video to work :/
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 7, 2024 23:37:37 GMT -5
UPDATE: I'm starting to get upset. I like having to not take off parts in order for the machine to run but now I have to. The belt cover now will not go on the nut without being scraped by the belt. It worked perfectly fine but now it won't I'm ready to return it. Should i?
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Post by iamchris on Jan 8, 2024 8:06:17 GMT -5
Try uploading a video to YouTube. It can be as long as you want. Cloudinary is a bit...difficult, to be polite.
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Post by roQhound on Jan 8, 2024 18:45:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry you're having issues. I've got 2 QT 12's that work great, so I hope you figure this out. I do know the last one I received had the motor mount nuts come loose during shipping, so I was careful to line it all up correctly and make sure there was just enough tension on the belt/pulley to make it turn. It sounds like things aren't quite lined up properly if that belt cover isn't going on correctly.
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Post by dillonf on Jan 8, 2024 19:41:24 GMT -5
Sorry you are having issues!
I'm sure you would be able to figure it out if you played around with it, but you shouldn't have to do that with a new machine - it theoretically should be plug and play. Best of luck!
It's hard to know what is wrong without photos, sorry I can't help more.
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Post by catmandewe on Jan 8, 2024 23:21:54 GMT -5
As long as it doesnt leave skid marks!!!
Sounds like something isnt aligned correctly.
Tony
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Post by rydersrocks on Jan 8, 2024 23:23:55 GMT -5
LATEST UPDATE: so I ordered an ex belt 1 week ago, it arrived on Saturday, and it broke today. I don't know what to do. Should I just use the warranty and get a new one? I think something else is wrong with the tumbler as well. Contacted lortone, they are sending me a free replacement belt. I'm gonna test with just enough tension to make the barrel move. Is it regular to here squeaking coming from the belt when on the pulley system? I am just getting really fed up with this machine. Just like what dillonf said, I think it should be a machine that you plug in and it works without any tuning. ESPECIALLY considering the price tag. If this is something faulty within the frame and how it was assembled, I'm highly disappointed. I bought 3 Chicago electric rock tumblers for each $70, and all I had to do was remove metal heat thingy, re adjust the belt, and oil the inner 2 shafts. This might be because I'm just plain out stupid lol. Hopefully when I get this new belt I can get it just right. If not, I'm using the warranty or I just might buy something else. Thank you all some much for helping me out. I'm sorry to anyone if I have not replied yet, because I know how it feels to message someone and never get a response back. I'm very busy trying to fix this darn thing. Please keep sending any more knowledge you know about how to fix this or what the problem could possibly be. Thank you! |
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