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Post by Cher on Jan 19, 2006 18:47:08 GMT -5
Hey Ron, when the critters looked right at me and I shot the pics they all show "red eye". Except the red eye on this camera seems to be green. If you can shed white light on this subject I'd appreciate it. Any tips to eliminate the green eye? I very rarely used a flash with my 35mm but the digital always wants to fire the flash. I don't know what to do about it. Is the flash causing the problem? Thanx for any help on this, Joe The green is just because of the different color of the retina between them and peoples, you know how their eyes always look greenish white in the headlights. Their eyes are very dialated in the dark so they can see better thats why you see the "lights in their eyes". Some camera's have a special red-eye flash, check to see if yours does. It actually creates two flashes, the first one very fast but the idea is that it's supposed to cause the pupil to contract so you don't see into the eye. Also, if you got any software with your cam, there's probably something in there for removing red eye, use the same process on the green eye. |
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Post by joe on Jan 19, 2006 18:56:34 GMT -5
I think my camera is using a red eye flash. When the flash goes off it's not like an old fashioned flash. It goes off several times quickly. Is this the same as red eye flash? I would think the red eye flash should be used at close range only? Those pics were shot with the optical zoom all the way in and maybe that's too far for the flash? I can correct the pic in Photoshop but I'd like to shoot pics without red eye if I can learn how.
I didn't know about those retina colors!
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jan 20, 2006 9:48:26 GMT -5
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand? Whoops, just had a little flashback there.  I haven't seen anything in a straight flash that can truly eliminate red eye. My digital has button to turn the flash off. On my Minolta 35mm I use a flash unit with a pivoting head so I can bounce the flash off the ceiling and avoid shining into the eyes. Outdoors, I don't know of anything except touching up in Photoshop. Just had a Redtail Hawk land under my bird feeder while I was typing this! Feeder is right outside of my window. Tried to get a photo but he didn't stick around long enough. Ron |
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jan 20, 2006 9:51:53 GMT -5
Hey Joe, one more thing I forgot to mention. The newer slr style digitals have features like aperture and shutter control that should allow you to shoot those type photos without the flash problem. Problem is, they are still a little too expensive for me yet. Would be nice to be able to change lenes though.
Ron
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Post by Cher on Jan 20, 2006 9:54:52 GMT -5
I think my camera is using a red eye flash. When the flash goes off it's not like an old fashioned flash. It goes off several times quickly. Is this the same as red eye flash? I would think the red eye flash should be used at close range only? Those pics were shot with the optical zoom all the way in and maybe that's too far for the flash? I can correct the pic in Photoshop but I'd like to shoot pics without red eye if I can learn how. I didn't know about those retina colors! It works pretty well at close ranges but your shots were probably tooo far away for it to effect their pupils. It needs to be bright enough to cause them to contact, like shining a flashlite in your eyes. |
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Post by Cher on Jan 20, 2006 11:50:59 GMT -5
Couldn't get a picture of the redpolls but here's we have some little pine siskins at the lunch counter. These are flighty little buggers that eat you out of house and home.  The one on the left there has a case of red-eye from the sunlight.  |
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Post by joe on Jan 20, 2006 13:44:18 GMT -5
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand? Just had a Redtail Hawk land under my bird feeder while I was typing this!Ron Hah! I used to work for the PO. When asked that question I always kept a straight face and replied that I was going to a labor/management meeting. The management types never laughed. I have a sharp shinned hawk terrorizing my small bird herd. I never see him long enough to get a pic. Got to see him catch his dinner one day and boy those birds are fast! Since I can't afford a digital SLR I'll have to use Photoshop for redeye. That's ok, I rarely get that close to something with eyes. Gotta love those little birds. Those are cuties Cher. They look a lot like my small sparrows and finches. |
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jan 20, 2006 14:05:03 GMT -5
Hey, I know what you mean Joe. I can remove a lot of problems with my Photoshop (actually I use Gimp more now) before I justify that cost of those digital SLRs.
Hey Cher, I've got tons of the Pine Siskins also. I never really had them around either until just recently. I'm beginning to think that I must be the only one around with a thistle feeder!
Ron
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Post by joe on Jan 20, 2006 18:58:32 GMT -5
Yeah I have to color correct most of the pics anyway. The camera doesn't seem to set the white point well or to use the full range of tone. A curves adjustment works miracles! Taking out the red eye is another minute!! Hey for 150 bucks that camera is priceless.
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jan 23, 2006 9:10:16 GMT -5
Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand? Just had a Redtail Hawk land under my bird feeder while I was typing this!Ron Hah! I used to work for the PO. When asked that question I always kept a straight face and replied that I was going to a labor/management meeting. The management types never laughed. I have a sharp shinned hawk terrorizing my small bird herd. I never see him long enough to get a pic. Got to see him catch his dinner one day and boy those birds are fast! Hey Joe, my Redtail Hawk has taken my bird feeders to be his own personal buffet just like your hawk. He sits up in a large Oak and dives my feeders, which are only 4 feet from my window. My wife isn't too excited to watch any kills. I think he has his eye on the Mourning Doves the most. Ron |
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Post by Cher on Jan 23, 2006 9:12:31 GMT -5
You've got mourning doves there now? I thought they all went south for the winter, I know ours do. Picture please.
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jan 23, 2006 9:19:39 GMT -5
Hey Cher, I'll try. This hawk hanging around my house has got everything spooked right now. The only thing that doesn't seem to notice the hawk are the Pine Siskins. They're really a odd little bird. I can walk right up to them and put my hand to within two inches. They just look to see if there's anything to eat in my hand, then walk away.
Ron
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I've also got some Ravens hanging around. Don't remember seeing them around here before.
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Post by joe on Jan 23, 2006 9:29:30 GMT -5
Wow Ron, my hawk is only a bit larger than a mourning dove. I've only seen him go after small sparrow sized birds. When he shows up ALL the other birds disappear fast. When there are no birds in sight I know to look for him. I don't really like watching killing in my yard either, but there is a fascination about watching the hawk.
Hmmm, maybe the squirrel population will entice the eagles to hunt in my yard!! Now that would be something!
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Post by thehawke on Jan 23, 2006 10:36:42 GMT -5
we've got the big red-tailed hawks up here. MAN they are huge! And we also have plenty of bald eagles. I think this year we may try to take the rafting trip that floats thru eagle territory.
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Post by MichiganRocks on Jan 23, 2006 11:22:18 GMT -5
It's quite a sight when the Redtail comes rocketing down out of the top of the big oak. Last time he did it I had my face up by the glass looking at all the birds, and all of sudden I had nothing but flared wings and outstretched talons in front of my face. I'd sure like to get a photo but there's no way, it all happens too fast. These finches and chickadees would hardly make a snack for this guy.
Ron
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Post by joe on Jan 23, 2006 12:36:10 GMT -5
That hawk must be awesome up close Ron. I can imagine your face when he is 4 ft. away. What a sight! There are a pair of baldies that nest in the mountains just west of me. I like to walk to the lake and watch them hunt. Their territorial range is huge so they don't always stay in sight for very long. When I tried to use my 3x camera zoom on them it was umm, inadequate. Oh well, as long as I can see them...
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Post by joe on Jan 23, 2006 12:36:48 GMT -5
My animated lawn ornaments have returned! There is a horny one in my yard now!! See:  |
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Post by thehawke on Jan 23, 2006 13:38:33 GMT -5
OH HOW KEWL IS THAT!!! They are such corgeous creatures, and if memory serves me, pretty tasty.
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Post by joe on Jan 23, 2006 20:35:12 GMT -5
Yeah Hawke, I'm reviewing my grocery budget as we speak!
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Post by MichiganRocks on Feb 9, 2006 11:39:50 GMT -5
Mourning Dove, aka Hawk bait.  |
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