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Post by texaswoodie on Jul 15, 2007 9:41:21 GMT -5
More firemen die every year from heart attacks than are killed in fire related accidents. That's because they sit at the firehouse all day doing little, then when there is a fire, within minutes the adrenalin is flowing and they are working their butts off.
Rockhounding is much the same. We sit in an office all day, or in my case at home on the puter, then on the weekends we work our tails off trying to get a 2 ton boulder back to the truck.
Since I had my heart attack 5 years ago, I've tried to walk a mile or 2 every day. Don't always, but I try. I'm twice my kids age, have heart problems, smoke like there will be no tobacco tomorrow, and still I can out walk them.
Now I've started putting 50 pounds of rock in my pack while I walk. So far I can make it 1/2 mile. Soon I'll be walking a mile with 50 extra pounds.
How about you? Tell us your exercise strategy.
Curt
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Post by Condor on Jul 15, 2007 10:27:57 GMT -5
Yes. For the most part I go to the gym on a regular basis. I'm usually there by 4:30 A.M. and I'll walk from 30 minutes to an hour on the treadmill followed by 45 minutes to an hour on the free weights. I tend to slack off at times when the time changes and winter comes, but yes, I can say that I exercise.
Condor
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Post by BuiltonRock on Jul 15, 2007 10:49:08 GMT -5
I walk a couple miles a day, 5 times a week. I ran a half marathon in 2004 and was working my way up to a full marathon but an injury in early 2005 knocked me out of that. Now I run a few times a week always with the idea I can build up again and as I extend my distance and frequency the lower spine begins to act up. If I just stay with-in the limits of this body and not listen to my ego, I do just fine. Basically, I'm going from infancy right to senility and never bothering to pass through maturity! LOL john
Curt, Throw those cigarettes away! PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Post by LCARS on Jul 15, 2007 11:25:27 GMT -5
Rockhounding for me is a comparably low intensity form of activity. I go geocaching and do GPS adventure contests to keep me (somewhat) in shape.
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Post by Lady B on Jul 15, 2007 11:47:46 GMT -5
Okay, I tried, I really, truly did, to not say anything here, but the Physical Therapist in me (who is supposed to be retired after 35 years) and the family heritage of many, many firefighters compelled me to post a reply to this thread. First, re: Curt's comments about firefighters: "More firemen die every year from heart attacks than are killed in fire related accidents. That's because they sit at the firehouse all day doing little, then when there is a fire, within minutes the adrenalin is flowing and they are working their butts off." This stereotypical typecasting of firefighters as people who sit all day playing checkers or cards or wrestling thumbs is just WRONG. There are incredibly strenuous chores involved in keeping that equipment clean and ready for the next event. Ask permission to pick up a part of a fire hose (empty of course) and discover the demand for upper body strength coupled with the bracing needed in the legs and the back. Climb on and off the Fire Apparatus (one of the specialty trucks) and discover mountain climbing on a level plane. Heft around the hatchets, that must be kept clean and honed sharp, the boots and coats and helmets, insulated to protect, and you will discover the fun of free weights. Hey, just take a look at active duty firefighters and discover how many of them are portly with beer guts hanging over the waistbands and a need for suspenders to hold up their pants. Your tally should equal zero. Part of what Curt wrote is true: More firemen die every year from heart attacks than are killed in fire related accidents....When there is a fire, within minutes the adrenalin is flowing and they are working their butts off"...because they are overheating, and breathing in toxins despite attempts to mask the smoke, getting chilled despite intensely sweating, fighting the fatigue that naturally accompanies that intense rush of adrenalin, carrying oftentimes heavy, dead-weight or worse, the dead. When they get back to the station they must clean and thoroughly check every piece of equipment before they can rest and they must make sure all housekeeping duties are complete within the fire station itself. And when they do rest it is never completely relaxing and re-energizing because there will always be another blaring fire horn alert, another adrenalin rush, even years after the station is just a memory. Now, about exercise. There has been one of the most insane sayings EVER associated with exercise: "No pain; no gain". As a result, people have done some really stupid stuff to the human body--which is great for Health Care Providers because it keeps us in business, but not so good for the damaged bodies. Ben Franklin was very wise when he quipped: "All things in moderation"--something he did not practice when it came to good food, alcohol, women, (too, too much) or exercise (too, too little). Walking is one of the best exercises a human can practice. Running puts incredible strain on many bodies and wears down bone mass and alters musculo-skeletal alignment in all bodies. Running should be very carefully practiced by well-prepared humans. Swimming is one of the best cardio-vascular stimulating exercises humans can perform. Lifting, tugging, pushing weights has a place in a careful exercise program. But a basic law of physics needs to be kept in mind. In order to burn calories one must perform work and work requires repetitive exertion. If an activity allows muscles to reach a set length or shortening, it is no longer work and it therefore no longer is burning calories. There is a tremendous difference between having muscle endurance (sustained ability to perform an action and little caloric burn) and stamina (the ability to perform that action repeatedly and the potential for significant caloric burn). Every time a human moves the body forward, there is work involved and therefore calories burned. But the body quickly adapts to this action and so each step thereafter burns only a set number of calories (this is why a human needs to walk so far/so long for the weight to be burned off/kept off). Carrying a set weight anywhere on the body becomes part of the mass of the body and does not burn additional calories. In order to make that happen, the weight must be shifted with each step--which is why you will see walkers/runners carrying a hand weight in each hand and keeping that weight in motion. They are achieving caloric burn due to the work involved in exercising upper body muscles against resistance while lower body muscles are doing a smaller amount of work and trunk muscles are essentially in endurance mode and therefore not burning calories. The heart, because it is a muscle, is exercising to keep blood flow and oxygen at the correct levels needed for each different group of muscles. Carrying a backpack on one's back is only work when the pack is being lifted onto the back and when it is being removed. Otherwise, no calories are being burned and therefore no exercise is associated with the use of that backpack. Motor endurance is being achieved, and that's a good thing, Curt, because at the rate you are smoking, you will need all the endurance your body can scrape together to sit up in bed in order to choke some of the slurry of tar and other by-products up and out of your ravaged lungs one of these days. As BuiltonRock pleaded: Curt, Throw those cigarettes away! PLEASE!!!!!!!! And take the rocks out of your backpack and put in some bottles of water which you can drink as you pick up the pace of your walking (a good way to increase the benefits of your exercise program) or as you increase the distance you walk (another great benefit) or as you repeat the number of times a week or in a day that you take your walks (yet another great way to exercise.) Okay, the Physical Therapist in me is going to go back into retirement now and all the deceased firefighters in my family are resting easier. Good, good luck to all of you who do exercise. May you reap the full benefits but please keep in mind: When there is pain, there is no gain. Pain is your body's way of telling you that something is wrong. Ignore those messages and your body will have its eventual revenge BIG TIME which is why there are so many older patients with chronic pain problems in Physical Therapy clinics everywhere. Lady B
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Post by texaswoodie on Jul 15, 2007 12:11:12 GMT -5
Hey Lady Bea
My son is a firefighter and we both have many friends who are. They do the maintenence you suggested, but I know for a fact about how much they sit around. I'm certainly not taking anything away from firefighters. They are the most underpaid important people we have around.
And for the backpack: I do that so that I am used to doing it. I sometimes walk 1 or 2 miles from my truck while rockhounding. If I am used to carrying a pack of rocks that far, it will make it easier for me when I'm in the field. I have no interest in loosing calories. I weigh 165 pounds soaking wet.
As for the cigarettes, I've been smoking for almost 40 years, I've tried many times to quit. I've tried everything the drug companies have offered to no avail. I'm a hopeless addict and will have to suffer the consequences. I do not blame anyone but myself.
Curt
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Post by earthdog on Jul 15, 2007 12:55:36 GMT -5
Ok exercise is a bad word for me. I get exercise at work, jump off my truck, walk 2 steps and grab a chute that weighs about 50#, walk 4 steps and put it on my main chute. I do this maybe 4 times a load if they need 4 chutes, then I sit in the truck and exercise my right wrist, (it's not what some of you are thinking) on the joystick to move the chutes up and down and sideways to pour. Then after I wash down my chutes after a load I take the chutes off and stack them back on the truck. I might have 4 or 5 loads a day, then I come home and really put a workout on the right wrist, (again, not what some are thinking) on the computer mouse and eating dinner. It takes alot outta the wrist moving that optical mouse around for 3 hours an evening and putting forkfull after forkfull of dinner in my mouth. Sometimes I even put both wrists through a workout, when we have steak on the grill. The left wrist gets a good workout every day also, by smoking 3/3.5 packs of smokes a day. I normally use the left hand to smoke. Quiet often I ride the Harley and then the right wrist still gets a workout from twisting the throttle alot. Sometimes I twist it nice and slow, other times I twist it real fast. So, my wrists get the most exercise in an average day. Legs get a heck of a workout also, walking from living room to kitchen and from living room to the Hog Barn for the Harley and from my car to my truck. I'll tell ya, at the end of the day, I am wore out from all that strenuous activity of everyday life.
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Post by Lady B on Jul 15, 2007 13:19:17 GMT -5
Curt,
I, too, know they sit; they just never sit "easy". And since I was just a wee kid and heard the sirens go off and knew my Dad or Granddad or Uncles or cousins were on those trucks, I've been very short-fused whenever I here someone talking about firefighters and sitting in the same sentence. I apologize for sounding off at you as if you personally were attacking firefighters.
And carrying the rocks as you explained in your most recent post is a great example of how you are building your endurance for when you are out there rockhounding.
But I must take some exception to your final paragraph where you stated: "As for the cigarettes, I've been smoking for almost 40 years, I've tried many times to quit. I've tried everything the drug companies have offered to no avail. I'm a hopeless addict and will have to suffer the consequences. I do not blame anyone but myself."
The blame for your addiction is in part your fault in that you started smoking. The blame for why you became addicted is in part due to your genetic makeup. BUT the greatest blame lies squarely at the feet of the despicable, low-life tobacco company owners who are nothing more than drug-pushers and the US government that continues to sunsidize tobacco for harm instead of for good. (Tobacco is one of the most nutritious of the green leafy plants and could easily be served as one of our daily veggies without the horrendous side effects of cured [what an ironic term] tobacco.)
I hope you do find the way to quit smoking that will work for you, Curt. In seven years time the human lungs can fully replenish themselves if irreparable damage has not already occurred. Wishing you the best...
Lady B
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Post by rollingstone on Jul 15, 2007 13:26:46 GMT -5
Do 12-ounce arm curls count as exercise? ;D
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Post by Lady B on Jul 15, 2007 13:32:19 GMT -5
Absolutely, especially if the liquid is water! ;D
Lady B
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Post by sbreed on Jul 15, 2007 13:59:46 GMT -5
Does mowing the lawn count? LMAO
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Post by rollingstone on Jul 15, 2007 14:23:44 GMT -5
Absolutely, especially if the liquid is water! ;D Lady B It's MOSTLY water.
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Post by adrian65 on Jul 15, 2007 14:37:00 GMT -5
My exercise: going to office by foot, about 30 mins. There are some days when it takes at least the same time if i go by car. Curt, my father also smoked about fourty-something years and I think I don't smoke thanks to him (as a child I HATED the cigar smell). He quit smoking about 5 years ago, because of serious health problems. When you want a cigar, take a pet wood and admire it, even give it a kiss and a hug, maybe it works I have a doctor in the family and he says it's far better a glass of wine than a cigarett. WTG about your exercises, you're good! Adrian
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Post by Bikerrandy on Jul 15, 2007 17:28:01 GMT -5
I do construction. If I sit down, I get my ass chewed. ;D I spend alot of time going up and down ladders.
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Post by texaswoodie on Jul 15, 2007 21:17:27 GMT -5
Thank you Lady B Thank you Adrian Curt
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Post by KG1960 on Jul 15, 2007 21:25:26 GMT -5
There is a health club/gym across the street from my house, only about 200 feet away. You can't beat the convenience. I walk 2 miles a day there, four days a week. They close early on Friday and it's too late to go when I get home from work. On the weekend I'll ride my bicycle strenuously for 30 minutes a time if I'm not doing anything else. I had been able to walk the two miles in 30 minutes (use a stopwatch) but about two years ago I had surgery (a kidney with tumor removed), and after that I couldn't get 2 miles in 30 minutes, still went 2 miles but not in that time. Only just recently, like since this June, have I been able to consistently get 2 miles in 30 min.
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Post by Slydog on Jul 25, 2007 12:32:07 GMT -5
Curt--how the heck old are you?! Put the ciggies down!!!! And EDog--you DO NOT smoke that much---do you???!!!! If you do, I'm getting the Screamin' Eagle out and coming over to do an intervention on you right now!!!!!!! And absolutely no rudeness intended, but to be honest, in my city, the majority of firemen are fat, lazy, and way overpaid. Many nice guys, but the rest is true too. But that's just the way it is, and it is accepted. We still need 'em.
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Post by texaswoodie on Jul 25, 2007 13:55:17 GMT -5
ROFL I'm an OLD fart. :-)
I'll be 58 this year. I started smoking when I was 19. That's the same year I was married. Coincidence? I think not! ;D
Curt
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Post by Tweetiepy on Jul 25, 2007 14:27:33 GMT -5
Curt - here's how I got my dad to quit smoking - poke multiple holes in the cigarettes - if that does not work - flush down toilet - and then run like heck! Oh that was me.... I bike to work on days when it's not pouring rain - about 20 kms - (12ish miles) takes me about 40-55 minutes depending on which way the wind is blowing and how many green lights I get Hubby is a postie and gained 10 lbs when he was on holidays for a month - lost them again when he went back to work but when we both retire (in about 17 years - yeah I'm already counting down) we'll have to walk quite a bit. My parents walk the neighbors dog every week day (unless its absolutely freezing & even the dog doesn't want to leave his doghouse)
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Post by rallyrocks on Jul 25, 2007 18:22:55 GMT -5
When I lived in Montana I rode my bike everywhere and was in great shape, I moved to CA and kept riding for a while, but got a truck, and followed that with a sports car and cut way back on cycling. Then I got into a triathalon training program, swam, ran and cycled my way back to probably the strongest I've been in late '98 (although still a bit over weight even then). Then I had a fall skiing (at about 100 mph no less) busted my ankle and never really got back into shape from that.
But I just recently got my bikes back together and tuned up and have started riding again, so far over 30 miles this week, I'd like to be able to have my first day skiing this year last more than 6 runs.
And I know some collecting sites that are going to take some hiking that I'd like to visit....
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