bouldergal
freely admits to licking rocks
Glacier Meadow
Member since July 2007
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Post by bouldergal on Sept 7, 2009 17:56:43 GMT -5
For those of you who haven't done business with Dale Rhodes, his kaleidoscope jasper is beautiful. In today's world, it's often hard to be patient when you're waiting for something to arrive in the mail. His rough is worth the wait. I saw a few posts about members complaining about him, and my answer to all of these comments is:
Why be so hard on a fellow rockhounder, much less an RTHer? Dale faces health issues but is still excited about prospecting, sharing what he has found, and getting a fair price for it. His eBay ads say it all....that if you're in a hurry you probably should find another seller rather than be upset or disappointed. The rough I received from him recently is really nice. A few pieces were fractured and he offered to replace them. What more can any of us ask?
Susan
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cman
starting to spend too much on rocks
Member since August 2009
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Post by cman on Sept 7, 2009 18:41:33 GMT -5
I'm upset I missed their box lots not being there at the right time.
I delayed last night kicking myself now.
You snooze you loose!
I think I will have to get a software system to enter my bids.
My little time at this I will be buying better material.
eBay seems to have at least stores that change their slabs and rough.
Updating their inventory is a must for me.
Just my observation in the last 5 weeks of cabbing.
Update:
I just bought a buy now box from Rhodes Bouldergal. Now a big saw which one 14 inch?
Just do it life is to short and I would rather have rocks!
Have A Great Day
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aunuts
fully equipped rock polisher
Some days are gold, some are rocks. Either is cool.
Member since March 2006
Posts: 1,110
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Post by aunuts on Sept 7, 2009 21:37:12 GMT -5
I recently bought a box of kaleidascope from Dale. It's exquisite! There wasn't an overnight turnaround, but I'd rather wait & get really good stuff. I can't wait to get to AZ & my slab saws, so I can get to it.  Jo |
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brent
fully equipped rock polisher
Member since November 2008
Posts: 1,316
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Post by brent on Sept 8, 2009 9:03:02 GMT -5
I just saw Dale's website yesterday. I found it very informative. I would like to meet him some day.
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Post by stonesthatrock on Sept 8, 2009 9:48:32 GMT -5
i have seen his website either until recently.... I was debating on which piece to buy.
mary ann
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rockmadman
off to a rocking start
Member since September 2007
Posts: 22
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Post by rockmadman on Sept 13, 2009 9:19:27 GMT -5
Glad you guys in the states are happy with ol' Dale-i have been waiting 2 years for a replacement piece of ANYTHING here in the u.k. Many e mails promising the 'earth' and 'it will be worth my while being patient' -but nothing. He has a bad name in the trade apparently - sad really because he has real quality stuff and i want to trust him ... but cannot
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bouldergal
freely admits to licking rocks
Glacier Meadow
Member since July 2007
Posts: 783
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Post by bouldergal on Sept 14, 2009 17:56:56 GMT -5
Dear Rockmadman,
Please forgive me for putting my two cent's worth in for someone else, but once you become a regular on the forum you'll find that we're all pretty loyal to other members. If anyone has done something wrong to another member in terms of a sale, trade, service, etc., then we all have hopes that it can be worked about between those folks. If you have a legitimate claim against Rhode's Cabin, life is too short to carry a grudge. Email him, work it out, and get on with life. I occasionally sell things through eBay and other places and have had several orders "slip through the cracks" because of other things going on in my life. When I discover what's happened, I apologize, do what I can to make it right, and put it behind me.
As I said, there are many very loyal members here. You haven't posted enough to be known by any of us, to have shared in our daily ups, downs, triumphs or losses. Settle your problem with Rhode's Cabin privately. Don't air your "dirty laundry" here. If others had a problem, they would have posted warnings about him long, long ago.
We try to be kind to one another.
Susan
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Post by superioragates on Sept 14, 2009 18:05:48 GMT -5
Well put bouldergal. I agree. WTG
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Post by tkrueger3 on Sept 14, 2009 18:56:17 GMT -5
Amen.
Tom
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Larry
spending too much on rocks
Member since June 2008
Posts: 267
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Post by Larry on Sept 14, 2009 21:23:19 GMT -5
Actually I disagree. The area that this should have been posted in is the good/bad/ugly section. The whole point of that section is feedback, good or bad or ugly, in an effort to give others insight into buyers/sellers.
One thing that gets on the nerves of new or quiet members is the thought that just because somebody doesn't post every day, they can't throw in their opinions. The only people that enjoy this elitist attitude are the heavy posters. I stress again, you don't have to post 20 times per day to know what you are talking about in the world of rocks.
That being said, he said in his post that he tried various times and was told over and over it would get worked out and it hasn't. He has every right to say 'hey, word of warning'. It's what this place is for.
One last thing, it's nothing personal bouldergal, it's just not fair to try and quiet somebody's opinion because they don't post a lot. People should not be afraid to post the bad and ugly.
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1934new
having dreams about rocks
Member since August 2009
Posts: 65
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Post by 1934new on Sept 14, 2009 21:38:08 GMT -5
I am a newby who doesnt post alot. How will I know when I have earned my stripes so to speak and will be able to voice a concern or opinion?
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Post by Toad on Sept 14, 2009 21:39:13 GMT -5
Have to agree with Larry. This forum is for good and bad. If rockmadman had a bad experience and couldn't get it resolved to his satisfaction, he has every right to post it here. The rest of us can take his comments however we want. But there is no reason to tell him not to post his experience. It's as valid as anyone else's unless proven otherwise.
Give the newbie a break. Dale can take care of the response.
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 14, 2009 22:07:04 GMT -5
Hey, telling someone to shut up and work it out privately is pretty disgusting an uppity. I find it offensive.
Dale does have a bad name in the trade. To my knowledge he has not crapped in this forum, so I didn't bring it up. Even after I hear you sing his praise.
Fact is, rock dealers I respect and know up and down Western Oregon will tell you right to your face that they think he is a big crook. Several have told me when I mention his name in passing. They won't do business with the man. I also heard the Royal Sahara people never got paid on time or in full or somehow screwed over. ... and its always about late payments or taking one guys money to pay another guy and then stalling the 1st guy on what he bought. The same stories over and over again.
So think twice before you try to censor someone relating their experience. ... and think double twice before using "seniority" or "loyalty" as reasons for presuming to tell someone to work it out and/or move on.
I personally think an apology is called for by bouldergal and the rash who said ditto.
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Post by rhodescabbin on Sept 14, 2009 22:53:36 GMT -5
I chose not to get involved in mud slinging. It is upsetting to see anyone on the board when they get to arguing, even though disagreements are part of any relationship I have learned this past year its best to avoid stress as much as possible and try to get along and stay out of mud throwing even when its slung at me. I try and remedy any problems through emails.
I believe after 11 years of relying solely on my rock business as our only income I have proved myself enough, but as Susan pointed out sometimes things slip through the cracks and to read any post against any vendor or buyer I always keep in mind that the other party to the transaction has a totally different view of what happened...
Susan wasn't saying he never posted here enough times to voice an opinion, she merely stated that he doesn't know any of us very well at all, to quote (((You haven't posted enough to be known by any of us, to have shared in our daily ups, downs, triumphs or losses.)))
Basically were suppose to be like family here and the door is always open to welcome new family, atleast thats the way I feel it is here...
As for rockmadmans claim I settled it right after I seen it and told myself I wasn't gonna post a response on here as most everyone here knows me and like I said I not only dislike the stress of it, but I have seen deals like this get way out of control and members quit, hard feelings etc...I certainly don't want to wear that burden on account of me but I felt I needed to come in and state why I didn't engage in this till now and state what I believe was Susan's objective...
I come here 4 maybe 5 times a week to enjoy myself and relax, read, learn, look at pictures. I don't even look at the ugly thread and I'm just as much a buyer as a seller..
I just read deb193's post and I am not surprised as he seems to be the one that loves to jump head first into a mudfest. All I have to say is let these ones that call me a crook file a law suit, I would like that very much...I have a word for people like deb193. Whats the first thing a rip-off does when they think their azz is on the line??? Try and Destroy the credibility of the one whom they wronged...It was my mistake to not file suit on those that ripped me as all to often easy bending ears readily yield to gossip, gives them an esteem boost...
What deb193 posted is the exact type of mud slinging I was speaking of. No facts just bolony tossed out meant to harm and cause pain...Theres some things i tolerate and turn the other cheek to and then theres things i will stand my ground on and either fight or if needed seek a civil remedy...Theres Opinions, then theres downright defamation. I am upset at the way you spoke to Susan, a lady, and your gossip you splattered, its you deb193 who is owing an apology...
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Larry
spending too much on rocks
Member since June 2008
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Post by Larry on Sept 15, 2009 1:09:30 GMT -5
I appreciate you coming here to state your side of things. A couple things that were misunderstood though...
deb193 did not jump right in slinging mud. It was only after many other comments were made and the first negative reply was basically told to be quiet that he spoke up. He actually said he was staying out of it until then.
As for knowing the ups and downs of people and such... posting on this board does nothing to that end. I can write nonsense all day and that goes noplace toward getting to know the members here. Look at rockmadman's key stat, member since sept. 07... 2 years. I think in 2 years of reading posts, he is qualified to know enough of people, with or without 1,000+ posts of his own.
I have no probs with anybody here. This is a free area to give feedback on sellers and buyers. Anything written is feedback, not defamation of character. Deb193 was careful to say that what was being said was second hand info from other people's experiences. It's just like if a buddy was hiring a mason and i said 'hey, I know 3 guys that used him and were unhappy'. That's not defaming, it's trying to help others by sharing what you've heard. I know for me personally, any seller promo that starts with "if you don't mind waiting a while", I just won't bother.
Anyhow, thanks again for stopping in to explain you case. I don't think anybody needs to apologize to anybody. Dying out would probably be the best solution for this thread.
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HarryB41
has rocks in the head
Member since September 2004
Posts: 605
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Post by HarryB41 on Sept 15, 2009 6:30:38 GMT -5
Well this is why I left for so long. I thought I would try to come back and join the wonderful world of lapidary, but nothing much has changed. It is still the basic thought of most here that NEW people or people who DO NOT post 50,000 times a day and rave about how great someone or something is, they get slammed and pushed off the board. Well..... this is my last good-bye and I won't be back. Fight without me!
Harry
P.S.
Don't reply, because I won't see it!
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 15, 2009 7:21:56 GMT -5
While I do wish I had spoke as camly as Larry, I stand by my assertion that Susan was way out of line. ...and Dale tries to attack me and undermine my character ... says he has a word for me ... I think I see him clearer and clearer.
I hope rockmadman posts about any resolution, because I won't take Dales word for it.
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bouldergal
freely admits to licking rocks
Glacier Meadow
Member since July 2007
Posts: 783
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Post by bouldergal on Sept 15, 2009 20:00:48 GMT -5
For those of you who took offense at my words, I apologize. To those supporters, thank you. Let's all move on and let any and all current vendors prove themselves to all of us. I, for one, enjoy my periodic interaction with all of the members. I'm not a major contributor and have certainly learned more than I've contributed. Thank all of you for being a part of my life.
Susan
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Post by deb193redux on Sept 17, 2009 15:39:56 GMT -5
OK Bouldergal, well put.
Let me accept the apology and offer one in return. While I was upset that someone with a reasonable post seemed to be getting dismissed and silenced, I did not have to let any upset I felt cause me to choose such heated words.
FYI, I agree with you that we cannot really evaluate or assign great weight to postings from folks we have hardly heard from - especially if they joined just before posting. This section's greatest value is the words from folks we have interacted with over time. Since rockmadman had been here for 2 years ...
I really like RTH too. I guess I am less willing than some to say everything and everyone RTH is wonderful, and do tend to bristle at the folks who I perceive to value the appearance of harmony over frank discussion and sunshine. Again, my sincere regret for stating my opinion so harshly.
I did hear from another member that rockmadman had gotten a refund, so the problematic transaction seems to have been settled. I guess something good cam of his posting, and I am glad to hear that it was taken care of as Dale claimed.
Moving on.
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Post by sbreed on Sept 23, 2009 9:04:09 GMT -5
Daniel, I have known you for a very long time and have always liked you even though I dissagreed with some of your posts. You and I have had our ups and downs. I have got to say though, with the post above, you have really earned my respect! It is the first time that I have seen you apologize. Wether the apology was needed or not..........you earned my respect! Thank you Daniel!
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