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Post by jamesp on Apr 17, 2013 14:56:28 GMT -5
Did you really take those corals out of the seawall?Giant snakes,rodents,snails,crocdillians,sink holes..........and Helen.If you ask a native Floridian he may complain more about the non-native peoples hehe haha.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 16:10:32 GMT -5
I have to ask... with all the tourists on Maui... why aren't THEY eating them then (as in cooking them and serving them to tourists as a local delicacy)  ? People in Maui are wanting fish. I collected a bag and asked two chefs to prepare them for me. They laughed at me. So I went and collected opihi off the rocks and filled my gut with those snails instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 16:11:51 GMT -5
OH, I forgot, steer manure is full of straw. Straw is a natural algicide. It seems the fact it passed thru a bovine alimentary canal doesn't change this characteristic.
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 17, 2013 16:50:33 GMT -5
Helen: Go to your local mosquito abatement district and they should have a tank of Gambusia ( mosquito fish) that they give out. They breed like a son of a gun and will munch all mosquito wrigglers. We use them in our stock tanks....Mel
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Post by helens on Apr 17, 2013 17:52:22 GMT -5
I have to ask... with all the tourists on Maui... why aren't THEY eating them then (as in cooking them and serving them to tourists as a local delicacy) ? People in Maui are wanting fish. I collected a bag and asked two chefs to prepare them for me. They laughed at me. So I went and collected opihi off the rocks and filled my gut with those snails instead. Well, that just means that you can't eat the big African ones... and you just said you didn't, so how do you know they can be eaten:)? Mel, I can just go fish some at a local pond (we have loads of big ponds with everything from mosquito fish to big mouthed bass - they get HUGE because no one will eat them because of fertilizer/pesticide run off). I got the gold fish because they were so visible, and they were only feeder fish, so if they survive, they had a better chance than becoming food for a salt water tank:). |
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Post by helens on Apr 17, 2013 17:52:58 GMT -5
Did you really take those corals out of the seawall?Giant snakes,rodents,snails,crocdillians,sink holes..........and Helen.If you ask a native Floridian he may complain more about the non-native peoples hehe haha. What native Floridians? There aren't any native Floridians left:P. |
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 17, 2013 18:01:27 GMT -5
*L* My wife is a Florida native and I'm a California native. Both Texans now and we love it *L*
I bet pesticides are a big problem in Florida waters. Funny but Ventura County where I'm from has lots of citrus and row crops, especially celery, just like Florida and both are polluted. Thing I missed in California were all the bees and butterflies. Little pesticide use around here and the area swarms with them. I'd not eat fish from a lot of areas in California either but then, I hate fish anyway *L*....Mel
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Post by helens on Apr 17, 2013 18:27:15 GMT -5
Well, does your wife live in Florida:P?
All the 'native Floridians' I've known (many generations) moved out of florida too:P.
We probably do have excessive pesticides here.... really don't have much to compare it to, but we are less buggy than you'd expect given the climate, so it must be bad...
They pull big mouth bass out of our local lakes up to 18" long... then throw them right back in the water...
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Post by jamesp on Apr 17, 2013 19:38:57 GMT -5
Water comes out of the ground all over the place in Florida.Within 10 miles of my camp is Salt Springs And Silver Glen Springs at about 30 million gallons per day each.Silver Springs about 30 miles away is 300 million a day.Each making rivers.And numerous other springs in Lake George and the forest sorrounding.Cold and crystal clear.The Ocala aquifer is humongous and covers a lot of area including south Georgia/Alabama apparently supplying a lot of virgin water.The 2 wells on my lot put out 100 gal/min artesian no pump.The massive wetlands have a big impact on feeding on the pollutive nutrients and farm/septic practices greatly improved.For the most part,the medium rivers are about drinking water.It's heaven for a coral/fossil collector.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 14:48:54 GMT -5
Helen, I have eaten them. They taste exactly like regular escargot snails.
Just don't ask me how. I'll plead my fifth amendment rights against self incrimination.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 15:30:23 GMT -5
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Post by helens on Apr 18, 2013 17:36:47 GMT -5
WOW. Thanks Scott!!! That was FASCINATING!!!
So, what I can't fathom is how any enterprising Floridian hasn't started offering a financial bounty to people who bring him these snails to resell for cooking (the way seafood stores offer to pay for fish or crabs).
Also, why is it we have no African restaurants or groceries in Central Florida:(? I did a search and there's ONE Nigerian restaurant in Miami... and that's it. Next time I'm in Miami, I'm going to make a point of checking it out.
I appreciate that link, and clearly, British people are more adventurous than we are, at least around here:(.
How'd you cook yours? I haven't seen a single one of those here yet, but if I do, I'll try it:).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 23:55:19 GMT -5
my buddy prepared then just like normal snails. butter n garlic galore.
The brits allow all kinds of animals in for foosd we do not. they are not worried about an invasion being so far north.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 19, 2013 7:43:56 GMT -5
Also, why is it we have no African restaurants or groceries in Central Florida:(? I did a search and there's ONE Nigerian restaurant in Miami... and that's it. Next time I'm in Miami, I'm going to make a point of checking it out. I don't know about Orlando Helen,but in 15 years of hanging out in the 'forest'(Ocala National Forest) I only see caucasian folks.It's all seafood and southern cookin.Atlanta,on the other hand,has a wide variety resturaunts representing various African countries. |
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Post by helens on Apr 19, 2013 8:20:26 GMT -5
Well, they could catch them and sell them to fish wholesalers or distributors in bigger cities. I'm surprised no one's done that yet... maybe because they're a threat, they can't be transported across state lines. But if someone offered to buy them in an area they are densely found, you'd think they'd get cleaned out pretty quick.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 19, 2013 11:16:46 GMT -5
This is a Florida Apple snail eating Florida bladderwort This link discusses the only native apple snail,non-natives,the endangered Snail Kite and the eggs that we used to throw at each other(buck shot sized hen eggs).They have a shell and a yoke just like a hen egg. www.pomaceaproject.org/exotic.aspThe St. John's River and springs of central Florida that flow into it are perfect for native apple snails.Eggs are on about every emergent plant stalk in the water.Loss of the native snail habitat around Helen's Orlando has endagered the Snail Kite's existence.The kites are happy on Lake George:> |
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Post by helens on Apr 19, 2013 11:34:51 GMT -5
How interesting! Those apple snails look just like escargot in the shell.
I started the snail thing wondering why we can't get rid of invasive species by selling them for food if they're edible... wouldn't that make the most sense??
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Post by jamesp on Apr 19, 2013 12:00:13 GMT -5
If the Snail Kites would eat that invasive giant and humans helped out it would'nt stand a chance.Those apple snails are a major survival source of food for those lost in the scrub.The palmettos for palm hearts,snails for protein and the springs for water make for easy survival.Oh yea,the portion of the cattail underwater is just like celery.
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Post by helens on Apr 19, 2013 12:14:40 GMT -5
Good to know:). Tho I think if anyone really got lost in the Florida scrub, they'd die of blood loss to the millions of mosquitos within a day or 2... way before getting hungry enough to need to forage for food:P.
Survival in Florida scrub = lifetime supply of OFF!
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Post by jamesp on Apr 19, 2013 13:06:19 GMT -5
Helen,look under Specimans and check out 'made in China............' by riverrock.Rocks encased in glass-wow.
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