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Post by helens on Aug 17, 2013 21:25:29 GMT -5
Coffee black,the stronger the better....Got hooked on strong coffee in the "Hobo" jungles around Utah when I was hitch hiking as a lad....Hooked ever since! How dumb is this? It's 10:30 pm here and I'm drinking strong coffee... LOL! Added to the fact that I have had the flu now for the last 3 days, I can't tell whether I'm standing or sitting at the moment.
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Post by jakesrocks on Aug 17, 2013 21:25:51 GMT -5
Come around here Mike, and you'll get a cup of Navy standards coffee. Hot, very strong and black. No wimpy little coffee cups either.
Bring some rocks along and we'll drink coffee and swap rocks.
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Post by Fossilman on Aug 17, 2013 21:29:32 GMT -5
Come around here Mike, and you'll get a cup of Navy standards coffee. Hot, very strong and black. No wimpy little coffee cups either. Bring some rocks along and we'll drink coffee and swap rocks. LOL,do they make small coffee cups? Hobo coffee,no screen,just boiling water,grounds and egg shells..........LMAO
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Post by Fossilman on Aug 17, 2013 21:30:58 GMT -5
Coffee black,the stronger the better....Got hooked on strong coffee in the "Hobo" jungles around Utah when I was hitch hiking as a lad....Hooked ever since! How dumb is this? It's 10:30 pm here and I'm drinking strong coffee... LOL! Added to the fact that I have had the flu now for the last 3 days, I can't tell whether I'm standing or sitting at the moment. Damn,wheres the video camera when you need it-LOL.......I'm not laughing at ya' Helen,I'm laughing with ya'....Thumbs up
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Post by helens on Aug 17, 2013 21:32:30 GMT -5
Dang... I just looked in the mirror, I think I need more sleep and less coffee. LOL!
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Post by gemfeller on Aug 17, 2013 21:52:31 GMT -5
Hobo coffee,no screen,just boiling water,grounds and egg shells..........LMAO Michael, that sounds an awful lot like my Dad's "Sheepherder Coffee." I'll never forget one unpleasant chilly day we spent fishing on a big reservoir years ago in east Idaho. The sky was lead-gray overcast and wind came in freezing gusts. The fish weren't biting and I was cold and disgusted. "You want a cup of coffee?" Dad asked. "Sure," I said sarcastically, since we were miles from any place that served coffee. He dug into his Levi's pocket and brought out a small packet of something wrapped in waxed paper. He found a big discarded tin can and scoured it clean with sand. He built a little fire with dry sagebrush, surrounded it with a few rocks to make a hearth for the can, and boiled water long enough to kill any uglies it might contain. He opened his little packet of fresh coffee grounds and dumped them in and let the brew steep. I can't remember what we used for cups but a few minutes later we were drinking glorious hot coffee! No eggshells and the fishing was still lousy. But that was the best coffee I've ever drunk.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:35:39 GMT -5
Oh, the Almighty Nutcase speaks again!!! You obviously know less about herbal medicine than you do about metallurgy, which was also minimal. Herbs are more highly regulated than most pharmaceutical drugs. Not only do they require more purity testing for manufacturing unlike pharmaceutical drugs medical claims can not be made for herbs even with solid evidence. And an herb can be banned by the FDA on an assumption of danger with no solid proof. The whole ephedra issue was a great example. Pharmaceutical drugs on the other hand do not have to be proven safe nor effective in order to obtain FDA approval. As an example the FDA was Court ordered back in the 60s to remove 710 FDA approved prescription drugs from the market found top be ineffective or too dangerous for human use. The FDA found a loophole and left all these drugs on the market. Many have since been made available over the counter despite the fact that they were once considered so dangerous that they required a prescription. One of these drugs is dextromethorphan (DM) used in cough medicines, which was proven to be no more effective than placebo. A later study reported in the Journal of Pediatrics once again reported that DM was found to be no more effective than placebo, yet the FDA still has this proven worthless crap on the market. As another example, if you ever watched the old commercials for Ambien and Lunesta you would have heard where they clearly said their drugs were "non-narcotic". Do you know what the definition of "narcotic" is? Of course not because you are a complete moron. So let me help you out Don. The definition of a narcotic is a "sleep inducing agent". So here we have these supposed sleep aids that their manufacturers have clearly claimed do not work yet they still got full FDA approval!!! So you want to discuss quack medicine? Start by looking at FDA approved drugs. By the way Don I know you don't realize these facts so let me fill you in some more. FDA approved: -Statin drugs used to lower cholesterol cause heart failure. -Oral hypoglycemics used to treat diabetes can make a type 2 diabetic insulin dependent. -Antidepressants can cause severe suicidal depression. -Asthma inhalers actually make asthma attacks more likely leading to a possible inhaler dependence. -Chemotherapy drugs are listed as known carcinogens. -Steroids used to treat autoimmune conditions further suppress the immune system making the underlying autoimmune condition worse. -Thyroid medications atrophy the thyroid making the thyroid more under active, which is why they have to keep upping the dose of thyroid medication. -Osteoporosis treatment drugs known as bisphosphonates actually increase the risk of bone fractures by making the bone brittle. The list goes on and on, but I know you will ever get it since this would require being smarter than a 5th grader, which you clearly are not. www.uchospitals.edu/online-library/content=P00181Oh look ! vegasjames has been in conventional medicine since he was 14 years old. What country was that in vegasjames ? There are child labor laws in this country you know. There are also very stringent laws about who can be involved in conventional medicine in this country. www.mountainmistbotanicals.com/ A little free advertising for you vegasjames) That 14 year old statement sounds sort of like misleading advertising to me. LOL. Even his facebook page has him starting in conventional medicine at age 14. www.facebook.com/pages/Mountain-Mist-Botanicals/175260719218841?sk=wallJust provides more evidence to how ignorant you really are Don. These laws vary from state to state, but there are ways to work at the age of 14 without violating child labor laws. Of course you are such a moron that you could not understand such a simple concept. Of course you also thought variscite and turquoise could not occur together or that herbs have not been researched for their medicinal properties. I don't know how you can be so proud of yourself when you cannot get anything right. Since you don't have the intellectual capability to do even basic research let me help you out yet once again by showing you proof: lwd.dol.state.nj.us/labor/wagehour/lawregs/child_labor_law.htmlThis is for New Jersey, but look at the statement in the law where it clearly states "Minors aged 14 to 17 permitted to work as volunteers for nonprofit organizations constructing affordable housing; prohibited acts; minimum insurance requirements" and "Minor working pursuant to § 34:2-21.17d deemed not to be an employee". So here we have an example of where someone the age of 14 can in fact work for an organization at the age of 14. So once again you are WRONG!!! By the way, I am the youngest person in my state to ever pass the state EMT exam. Even though I was well under the legal age limit to be certified I was allowed to work in an EMT capacity in the emergency room. Yep, the U.S. is definitely safer since you are finally out of the Navy. No telling what you would have screwed up if you were still in.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:36:35 GMT -5
If you want one. Should I grade on a major curve? Probably better if you didn't grade at all. I don't have four days to read it all, try to comprehend it, or remember one whit of it. If I cared, it might be different. You clearly care enough to be responding about it.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:38:18 GMT -5
I told ya he would hang himself. Dang Vegasjames, on your own thread at that. I got a slot for ya on the bullshit thread. C'mon back there. We were doing so well. How did I hang myself JamesP? Just because you are moronic enough to listen to Don's crap dies not mean I hung myself. Unlike Don I am telling the truth.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:39:56 GMT -5
Probably better if you didn't grade at all. I don't have four days to read it all, try to comprehend it, or remember one whit of it. If I cared, it might be different. I think they call it the internet gullibility test. "well gee, with that many links it must be true, yuppers" Lee I see Don's wife is back right on cue to defend him because he is clueless.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:48:33 GMT -5
vegasjames, your vast knowledge on seemingly all subjects is wasted on us mere mortals. We are just a bunch of simple rockhounds with fifth grade educations. I would venture a wild guess that most people here do not appreciate you or your brilliance. Perhaps you can find another site to frequent, with people that share your intelligence and passions. Should you ever develop social skills and learn how to play well with others, you could try a comeback. Don't go away mad, just go away. Oh, so now all of a sudden you wish to dictate who can post and post what. It is alright to post off topic about politics, feces, snakes and whatever else you deem proper but not about health. And it is alright for Don to act like a complete prick attacking anyone who disagrees with him and especially who provides evidence that he is wrong. But its not alright to post evidence or anything you disprove of. As I mentioned in an earlier post I am not surprised that so many people have left this site. There is the well established good old assholes club that wishes to dictate what can be said or done on this site rather than rely on the rules already set in place. Most people will not put up with such crap and others will simply lurk because they are afraid of this group coming down on them as well if they dare say anything that offends the high and mighty assholes that try and control these boards.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:52:03 GMT -5
We all appreciate brilliance Helen. B.S. is another matter. When ones brilliance is based on internet searches to prove oneself more brilliant than others, That isn't brilliance. It's B.S. When one pretends to be so obnoxiously brilliant that people get sick of reading their crap, and speak out against it, that is the right of that person. We're all entitled to our opinions. At least for now. Heaven knows that we've put up with your B.S. for long enough. We've listened to enough of your googled brilliance over the last year or so. Then maybe you should leave Don. After all how much of your BS have I already disproven because you think you know it all and therefore refuse to do the research or to listen to anyone who actually knows what they are talking about.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 22:59:32 GMT -5
I don't see that VegasJames needed 'rescuing' on his own thread he started. What I did was simply point out how rude it was to tell HIM to leave his own thread, or that he provided too much information to you, when not everyone feels it was too much information, or we wouldn't still be talking about it. It's pretty easy to simply not respond if you weren't interested in the subject yourself. Yet you did. Why don't YOU leave? I started the thread to try and lighten things up here. But of course some people just love to hate and had to start spouting their false crap. And when I post evidence to the contrary I am once again the "bad guy". To make matters worse there are several people on these boards who feel that they are so important that they and they alone should dictate what can be said on these boards and who should be allowed to post. Definite delusions of grandeur. If these people did not want to deal with me then they did not have to read my posts or respond. They simply want to stir the shit some more to get their cheap jollies.
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Post by jakesrocks on Aug 17, 2013 23:00:00 GMT -5
Vegasjames, you really do need to learn to read before writing. Now kindly show me just where I said that herbs have not been researched for their medicinal properties ? Caught in another lie, aren't you.
And the world is safer since you decided to go into snake doctor medicine, instead of real medicine. You probably haven't killed quite as many yet with your so called cures, YET.
Yes, in fact plants have been studied for their medicinal properties. Unlike your so called cures, In real medicine, the valuable components in plants have been isolated from the useless or even harmful components. Those valuable components are now being synthesized in sterile labs under tightly controlled procedures. Unlike your form of snake oil medicine which uses the whole parts of the plant, usless, harmfull parts and all. What kind of controls are put on the manufacture of your snake oil ? Where's your sterile lab ? How often does a government inspector inspect your lab for procedures, controls and cleanliness ? Do you even have a lab, or are your snake oil medicines coming in all ready pre bottled from China or some other country with no controls at all ?
You should thank God each and every day for me and every other past or present service member. We're the ones who have ensured your right to spout your hatred for us. I certainly thank you for your tax dollars which pay me retirement check and insurance. But then your type don't appreciate a damned thing. You and your type think the world should revolve around you. You and your type think the world owes you a living. You and your type think that you are owed our respect, no matter how much crap you spout at, and disrespect you show towards us.
Oh, and congratulations on having your very own knight in shining armor. ASSHOLE !!
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Post by jakesrocks on Aug 17, 2013 23:04:10 GMT -5
I think they call it the internet gullibility test. "well gee, with that many links it must be true, yuppers" Lee I see Don's wife is back right on cue to defend him because he is clueless. You really are an ASSHOLE, aren't you vegasjames ? Crap like this only serves to prove it. Can't you come up with anything better than that ? At least I have friends.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 23:04:26 GMT -5
I did not TELL him to leave, I said "Perhaps you can find another site to frequent, with people that share your intelligence and passions." It would serve him better. I will not bother responding to your last staement. Who has the thin skin now? I came here to talk about lapidary, which I am trying to learn and stones, which is what I thought this site was about. I did not realize that this board was only to talk about what you are interested in such as snakes and different types of feces. That's why I also post on another forum. There they actually talk about lapidary and stones like I am interested in and nobody has to weed through all the crap and personal attacks. But since there are people here that I don't have problems with since they don't try to control everyone and just make up their "facts" like Don loves to do I will continue to post here as well.
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Post by jakesrocks on Aug 17, 2013 23:09:36 GMT -5
We all appreciate brilliance Helen. B.S. is another matter. When ones brilliance is based on internet searches to prove oneself more brilliant than others, That isn't brilliance. It's B.S. When one pretends to be so obnoxiously brilliant that people get sick of reading their crap, and speak out against it, that is the right of that person. We're all entitled to our opinions. At least for now. Heaven knows that we've put up with your B.S. for long enough. We've listened to enough of your googled brilliance over the last year or so. Then maybe you should leave Don. After all how much of your BS have I already disproven because you think you know it all and therefore refuse to do the research or to listen to anyone who actually knows what they are talking about. I'll tell you what vegassjames. Lets post a poll. Those who think I should leave can vote for me to go. Those who think you should leave can vote for you to go. Looser deletes his account, and doesn't come back under another user name. Are you up for it ? Have you got guts enough for it ? Are you honest enough to abide by those simple rules ? I am. Oh, and just to be fair to both of us, we'll let one of the mods write up and post the pole.
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Post by jakesrocks on Aug 17, 2013 23:13:25 GMT -5
Quote vegasjames --- That's why I also post on another forum. There they actually talk about lapidary and stones like I am interested in and nobody has to weed through all the crap and personal attacks.
Could that be because that other forum has a very strict rule that if you start crap, you get booted ? I'm over there too, and I'm sure you've noticed that I've been very careful not to take your bait.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 23:16:49 GMT -5
I don't see that VegasJames needed 'rescuing' on his own thread he started. What I did was simply point out how rude it was to tell HIM to leave his own thread, or that he provided too much information to you, when not everyone feels it was too much information, or we wouldn't still be talking about it. It's pretty easy to simply not respond if you weren't interested in the subject yourself. Yet you did. Why don't YOU leave? Helen, have you looked back through this thread to see who was calling out all the names? I tried to help vegas with his people skills in a message in a very nice way and I got the FU and he started calling me names on every thread. He has tried to beat Don to death and he was the one that started it with his "I know more than everyone in the world" no matter what Don's proof was. People are a little fed up with his bashing Don every time Don has a comment. Sooooo, some people came here to bash vegas I would guess. Now, here I am being Don's frog in slimy odor again. Jim Why don't you try telling the truth. You wrote me in a PM attacking me and lying about something that was none of your personal business in the first place. I said "screw you" because you came out attacking me over something that was not even true to begin with. As I said in a thread a while back I treat people in the same manner that they treat me. Treat me with some respect and I will do the same for you. Come out attacking me and I will fight back since abuse is the only language some people understand.
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Post by vegasjames on Aug 17, 2013 23:22:39 GMT -5
I don't see that VegasJames needed 'rescuing' on his own thread he started. What I did was simply point out how rude it was to tell HIM to leave his own thread, or that he provided too much information to you, when not everyone feels it was too much information, or we wouldn't still be talking about it. It's pretty easy to simply not respond if you weren't interested in the subject yourself. Yet you did. Why don't YOU leave? Oh now Helen, don't tell me you don't see the ironic humor in that. When Jim (wampidy) voiced his own opinion on a previous thread, vegasjames immediately accused him of being my knight in shining armor. Of coming to my rescue. According to vegasjames's way of thinking, only he is allowed to have opinions. Anyone who doesn't immediately agree with him isn't allowed to have an opinion. Now that's irony. Our whole feud started because I disagreed with you on a political topic. And since you feel you are the king of all knowledge nobody is allowed to post their opinion without having you try to chop their heads off. The reason you have continued to have a problem with me though and thus keep up with the personal attacks is because I have posted evidence several times proving your false claims wrong and as the self proclaimed king you cannot stand to have your authority challenged. I don't have a problem with people's opinions. I have a problem with people posting their false claims as fact then attacking anyone who challenges those false claims.
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