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Post by jamesp on Sept 22, 2013 14:07:23 GMT -5
I buried that dog. it really got to me. Even though it killed 9 responsibly penned goats.
Snake skinner huh? I skinned one once. A 52 inch copperhead. I caught it and carried it to the extension agent in my hand w/a 3 on the tree stick shift Ford truck. His office freaked out. He said they don't get that big. i always liked that guy.
Pets are different. Dogs are treasured. Man's best friend. Finest animal on earth bar none x10.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:28:00 GMT -5
Dogs with names are pets. All other dogs are just animals. At least to me.
52" copperhead is beyond huge.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 22, 2013 15:05:18 GMT -5
Scott, i looked it up. Southern Copperheads are the biggest. And the record is 53. But i think that one was 54 or 52. And caught 2 that were 48. I knew i had the big ones here. I have not seen one since i killed 25 the first 5 years i cleared this place. Sorry i did that but their camo is out of control and i almost got hit on the hand 3-4 times. I have 5-6 foot kings on every corner-love em. And all others. Seen a couple of rattlers and let them go. They are infrequent. I think their bite is a flesh rotting bite unlike a rattler that attacks central nerves. Is that correct?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 15:25:30 GMT -5
jamesp, you have not told my whether or not your wife wants the skull that I have. Going once, going twice,,,,,,, Jim
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Post by jamesp on Sept 22, 2013 18:22:00 GMT -5
Jim there is 11 skulls on the pie safe. Owl, beaver, soft shell, snapping turtle, possum, coon, otter, squirrel and more. I say she has enough. She would want it. But she wants everything. You are kind. Thanks for the offer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 11:01:10 GMT -5
Scott, i looked it up. Southern Copperheads are the biggest. And the record is 53. But i think that one was 54 or 52. And caught 2 that were 48. I knew i had the big ones here. I have not seen one since i killed 25 the first 5 years i cleared this place. Sorry i did that but their camo is out of control and i almost got hit on the hand 3-4 times. I have 5-6 foot kings on every corner-love em. And all others. Seen a couple of rattlers and let them go. They are infrequent. The kings probably help with the copperheads too. Plus you changed the habitat. It probably better for kingsnakes now that it is open and less good for copperheads now that it's wel... open. Copperhead bite is instant pain. Apparently never deadly, but every description I have heard says it is instant and purified pain. But not much more. Eastern Diamondbacks and Timbers will dissolve your flesh. Their venom is digestive in away. Helping the animal process the food efficiently. A rattlesnake fed a live meal bites and kills, then eats. Then it poops 3-4 days later. The snme snake in the same room fed an already dead food item will take 11-14 days to poop. I know little about pygmy rattler venom. Strange you haven't showed us images of those. They should be common.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2013 12:27:10 GMT -5
Pygmys are so common in S. GA and central Florida. Not much in Atlanta,here anyway. I have seen 4 hands from Pygmy bite. I can spot them. The doctor lances along every bone of the back of the finger and back of the hand. 12 slices-8 on 4 fingers and 4 on back of hand. Text book. They cause massive swelling.
I swear your theory on kings is what has happened. I have witnessed 2 water snake attacks by kings. The king lost both times. Because the water snake took the fight to the water and he outweighed the king 4 to 1. Once in the water the king was out of there. My water snakes are meaner than any snake i have ever handled. athletic accurate fast strong mean smelly. Both of those attacks were at a shallow water's edge and i heard the splashing and commotion due to the shallow water battle. Both cases the king was wrapped around the upper 1/4 of the water snake. Tears came out of my eyes(maybe i am exaggerating a little) i was so amazed to get to see those 2 confrontations. I got humongo kings. I saw on the new show about baptist snake handlers that they fear the poison of a western diamond back. Said it was very deadly.
I think that eastern diamond backs (maybe others) have sliding hinges in their jaws. Have you heard such. Have you heard that many eastern diamond back bites result in death by longitudinal vein laceration blood lose. Where there hooked fangs have done the damage cause they are like sharpened hooks like a hook skinner knife and the effect of the sliding hinge leaving long lacerations longitudinally on a leg.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 16:51:14 GMT -5
Put those words on a flash card and show it to 100 herpetologists. What snake is this?
Without fail you will get 100 answers.
Water Snake.
No eastern diamondbacks don't do that. They get really big and deliver a lot of venom. Dangerous bite for that reason alone.
See? I speak Jamesp. I realized that was a question! haha buddy, sorry!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 23, 2013 20:52:31 GMT -5
Snake skinner huh? I skinned one once. A 52 inch copperhead. I caught it and carried it to the extension agent in my hand w/a 3 on the tree stick shift Ford truck. His office freaked out. He said they don't get that big. i always liked that guy. I didn't see you question (it is a question isn't it?). I've peeled a few of them. I'm sure the one in Alabama was an Eastern Diamondback. Out here, most likely they were Southern Pacifics. They have a very bold, highly contrasting pattern.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 23, 2013 21:04:40 GMT -5
Do you do anything with the skin Jean?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 23, 2013 21:22:36 GMT -5
I didn't do anything fancy with it. Shaved any meat off it, salted it and tacked it up inside the barn. I brought it home with me, and gave it to my sister's boyfriend for his birthday or Christmas or something. I'm pretty sure he made a hatband out of it. On others, I've used glycerine or the tanning stuff you can pick up at Tandy Leather. The only other thing I can recall making was a belt buckle, that had leather lacing around the edge. I know I still have it somewhere. Don't know why I made it, I don't wear belts.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 24, 2013 0:10:13 GMT -5
I tacked that big copperhead to a 1x8 and hung it in the shade outside in my shed. It lasted several years and is still stuck in my mind. I wish that i had done a preservation. My neighbors have seen big copperheads around here. It is weird. I have never seen a moccasin in south Fulton county. But 10 miles south and west they are common.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 24, 2013 9:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Sept 24, 2013 19:10:51 GMT -5
That is cool. Is that from a rattler? It is an athletic cup-just kidding. Really, what is that and how old is it?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 24, 2013 19:30:02 GMT -5
Yes, it's a rattler, probably a Southern Pacific. Definitely not a red diamond. The buckle blank is from Tandy Leather, and it's probaly 25+ yers old? Just guessing. This skin was one that was soaked in glycerin, so it kind of thinnned out, almost translucent once the scales came off.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 24, 2013 19:41:59 GMT -5
Gotcha. Sure has weathered well. Did you make that Jean?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 24, 2013 19:51:47 GMT -5
Yes, I did. Used to do a lot of leather work, but haven't done any for a while. The last thing I did was to make a matching belt for a holster I had for my Ruger Blackhawk. When I was shooting at the PD range, we had to have a holster for doing quick draws. I wasn't too quick getting six shots off with that single action revolver. But I did learn to fan it.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 24, 2013 19:57:24 GMT -5
I hope your husband never crosses you:)
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 24, 2013 19:59:51 GMT -5
Haven't shot anyone yet! I'm not hot tempured.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 20:25:27 GMT -5
Haven't shot anyone yet! I'm not hot tempured. Very operative.
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