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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 24, 2013 20:29:20 GMT -5
Scott, Scott, Scott... You know I am an old softy, I couldn't even skin a dead fox, or a pet rabbit. I truly value human life, and would NEVER shoot at a person (unless they deserved it  ). Only a person that is a threat to me would feel my wrath. Besides, bullets are too expensive to waste these days... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 20:40:02 GMT -5
well, of course. I was, again, being silly.
I consider you a friend. I wish for my friends to NOT hesitate if the moment happens. I am certain you will not be to hasty in deciding to pull the trigger. Do not hesitate too long either.
Close the deal, save your self or loved ones.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 24, 2013 21:42:02 GMT -5
Scott, you know I am mesing with ya, doncha? I also consider you my friend. I wouldn't shoot you unless I had to (kidding!). I'm only hoping if I had to pull the trigger when necessary, that I could.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 21:50:52 GMT -5
I'm only hoping if I had to pull the trigger when necessary, that I could. That is the key to survival, now ain't it? Having never pulled that trigger myself, I think that success relies on prior range time & classes (lots) and reading everything Massad Ayoob has ever written on the topic, and then spending much effort contemplating the situations that require deadly force. I cannot say for certain I will have success. I feel I need more range time and training myself. But I have done the other two in detail. I plan to do the right thing if called upon to save myself or others. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 25, 2013 11:01:23 GMT -5
jamesp, I was telling you earlier in this thread about the leather tooling I used to do. Here is the holster I bought for my Ruger for shooting class:  A looooong six inch barrel on it made it a little hard to clear leather. Not a gun for quick draw, but then, that's not what I bought it for. (You can't reload it quickly, either, but I did okay.) It resides in a locked gun safe. Yes, I have access to another for quick use...  Cut the belt blank and tooled it to match the holster. I believe it's called "basketweave" pattern.  Close-up. A little tedious, but a nice look.   Okay, so that's the last thing I made with leather.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 25, 2013 12:47:42 GMT -5
That is the last thing? You really mean (in the deepest part of the south it is pronounced bina) business. Again, i hope you are not short tempered. Especially for the spouse.
Fine work Jean. Thanks for sharing. You like doing w/your hands. Me too. I love using my hands to build/make stuff. The rings you made and wraps others do gets my highest respect.
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 25, 2013 13:40:18 GMT -5
Yotes are huge,have shot many in North Dakota and Montana-They are very big here in Oregon too!
They do damage to young livestock and are worthless animals!!!
As for beaver,I have a buddy in Montana that is 3rd generation trapper,he is in his late 60's now,but one time we were drinking beer and whiskey one nite and he started telling us of the different animals he has eaten thru his life.
Horse was on the list,my Dad ate horse too,they saved the Oxen for work and that generation ate the horses instead..( I ate horse too,nasty)!
Than he said raccoon,said it was good,bobcat and cougar,said it wasn't bad...Ate a coyote once,said if had to survive he would eat it again...Ground gophers,snakes,squirrels,crows,porcupine(only animal you can eat raw and not get sick),every fish that swam in Montana.
Than he said he and his buddy ate a beaver once,said it was the nastiest criiter he ever ate!Tasted of fat and oil!
We busted a gut laughing at him-he told us it wasn't funny,it was nasty-LMAO!
I ate some nasty stuff in the Army for survival training,but he did it on purpose-LMAO....
Still my best buddy,no matter what he does...
If the Chinese,Russian or Muslims attacked the US soil,I would pack up my weapons and head his way to the mountains,this guy would have my back covered!
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 25, 2013 13:42:50 GMT -5
I was sitting on a boat cushion on the ground deer hunting smoking a cig a few years back and that rascal walked up on me from behind and passed to the right about 8 feet away. Wind going to left he never saw/smelled me. He was about 30 feet away and i whistled softly and stopped him. Talk about a beautiful pelt. I got his(well,my wife got his)skull on top of the pie safe. She collects skulls. Weird eh? Yea, the beaver is over there too. Weirdo woman A skull collector huh,boy do I have a skull for her-I'll look for it,I found it while hunting for fossil and dino bones.. I thinks its a rodent skull,its all there,thought is was cool,so I kept it...Thumbs up to your wife! |
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 25, 2013 13:52:20 GMT -5
jamesp, I was telling you earlier in this thread about the leather tooling I used to do. Here is the holster I bought for my Ruger for shooting class: A looooong six inch barrel on it made it a little hard to clear leather. Not a gun for quick draw, but then, that's not what I bought it for. (You can't reload it quickly, either, but I did okay.) It resides in a locked gun safe. Yes, I have access to another for quick use... Cut the belt blank and tooled it to match the holster. I believe it's called "basketweave" pattern. Close-up. A little tedious, but a nice look. Okay, so that's the last thing I made with leather. Wow-looks like my pistol,I have that in the .22 Caliber for my wife...She is deadly with it at 20 yards or less(close to bullseye every shot) and my furthest shot with it is at 50 yards at a 3x6 inch target....(Three out of five shots)(Off center by two inches)..Thumbs up |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 25, 2013 14:10:36 GMT -5
Mike, that is a .357/.38. I bought it new close to 30 years ago. It also came with another cylinder so that it can use 9mm (I've not used it, though). I've only used it for target shooting, have never used it to dispatch anything. Killing is not in my blood, I'm non-confrontational. Hope I never have to use it.
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 25, 2013 14:28:45 GMT -5
Mike, that is a .357/.38. I bought it new close to 30 years ago. It also came with another cylinder so that it can use 9mm (I've not used it, though). I've only used it for target shooting, have never used it to dispatch anything. Killing is not in my blood, I'm non-confrontational. Hope I never have to use it. I also have a 38/357 Cal. pistol in a different make..Love it and can shot it as good as the .22 pistol..I got rid of my 9mm,didn't like it..Would like to buy a 380 for carry,but will see on that...Thumbs up |
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Post by jamesp on Sept 25, 2013 20:20:26 GMT -5
Got a Tauraus 357 like a 4 inch barrel. Wicked caliber. Very unforgiving
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 26, 2013 9:46:44 GMT -5
.357 will leave a good sized hole, and it could be made worse depending on type of ammo.
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Post by Fossilman on Sept 26, 2013 10:31:14 GMT -5
Mine is a Tauraus 357 too,with a six inch barrel...........I want to take it deer hunting one of these times!
When I was teaching my wife firearms,shooting and hunting-we were out early in the predawn morning waiting for the deer to come from the feeding areas to their bedding areas,we were hidden in the bush and sprayed down pretty good with scent control-the does started moving first,they got within 6 feet of us and then it was sight,not scent that alerted her.
So I know I could get a deer with my pistol...Thumbs up
I've been hidden and close enough to touch deer,but never had the nerve yet-have been kicked by calves,cows and bulls enough to hate the feeling!!! LOL
My two youngest boys were taught my skills,one still uses them...They love it-LOL
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Post by jamesp on Sept 26, 2013 10:46:00 GMT -5
Tauraus is well accepted in these parts.
I deer hunt to Fossilman and have experienced many within 20 feet. It is a rush. Your gun would do the trick. Whitetail are toughest animal to kill. We use big guns for kill power.
Bear are easy. Rumor has it moose and elk are easy. But Canadians told me you Whitetail are very hard to kill(will to live).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 12:39:29 GMT -5
I have found using light calibers squirrels can be tremendously tough.
Badger are "hard" and not just hard to kill, but very hard bodied, making them a tough kill. Shot placement is key.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 14:38:27 GMT -5
I have found using light calibers squirrels can be tremendously tough. Badger are "hard" and not just hard to kill, but very hard bodied, making them a tough kill. Shot placement is key. I didn't find squirrels hard to kill with a 12ga. Sixes will knock them right out of the tree. The problem I found was that the meat was so tough you could not stick a fork in the gravy. They need to be boiled for a while then fried. Jim |
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Post by jamesp on Sept 26, 2013 14:41:11 GMT -5
Squirrels and whitetails. My Dad blasted the entire heart out of a medium doe and it ran 200 yards. 12 gauge slug at 20 yards hello.
Yep best to shot squirrels in the head yea right-Marine sniper maybe. Just satin-small target. Got a 22 magnum. That is an evil little lever action short saddle rifle. 22 mag is a killin machine.
32 0nce plastic coke bottle w/bottom cut out is great silencer. 22 mag + coke silencer = common poachers equipment. Really just the 22 mag. Wardens hate that gun around here.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 26, 2013 14:42:20 GMT -5
I have found using light calibers squirrels can be tremendously tough. Badger are "hard" and not just hard to kill, but very hard bodied, making them a tough kill. Shot placement is key. I didn't find squirrels hard to kill with a 12ga. Sixes will knock them right out of the tree. The problem I found was that the meat was so tough you could not stick a fork in the gravy. They need to be boiled for a while then fried. Jim And cutting that skin-wow. Always used a single edge razor blade. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 17:00:59 GMT -5
Scissors my friend. Scissors. Never use a knife to skin a mammal. Scissors are way better!
I hit squirrels with a 95 grain 25cal slug from my pellet rifle at 900fps. Hit's them real hard. But unless you get a head or heart shot, they will run into their hole to die.
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). Only a person that is a threat to me would feel my wrath. Besides, bullets are too expensive to waste these days... 
