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Post by jamesp on Sept 20, 2013 11:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 20, 2013 13:46:55 GMT -5
James, do your dogs like to run the deer?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2013 16:14:42 GMT -5
I assumed thhat was a wild dog. It's yours?
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Post by jamesp on Sept 20, 2013 16:45:17 GMT -5
I used to hunt hogs with a mountain man. He Lived in Blue Ridge Georgia. In Dec and Jan. We did it illegally on National Park Land. They used my truck as cover since i had bicycle racks on it. So we would get 3-6 dogs and 3-5 hunters all in my vehicle and leave their vehicles hidden off national land. We had airedales and pits and they are illegal on national land(used illegally for bear hunting). And Catahoulas for tracking.And the law was trying to catch those guys. So it was also a cat and mouse game and i did not mind being 'used' and i could long leg away from those guys. We started at 5 AM and did on average 25 - 30 miles round trip and get back at 2-3 PM. Walk the ridge and let the cross wind bring the hog smell out of the bottoms and when they scented it was straight down. And when the hogs left the bottoms their escape route is always up the steepest slope. And when they got to the top the next route was down the steepest slope. So it was a wild run basically sliding and jumping long falls down and 200 pulse count going up. If they bayed on top of the mountain your dogs were getting killed by a bear and you better hurry and kill the bear. If they bayed in the bottoms it was a hog. And you still got to get there fast to avoid dogs getting slaughtered. If they are baying and moving it is usually a russian dragging them like balls of cotton candy hanging off him. A 150 pound russian will destroy 5 dogs in a matter of minutes. A 300 pound wild hog can be taken and held by 2 dogs. The russian is x10 a bad dude. And if he is 250 pounds he is tall rangy and fast as hell and the dogs will suffer severe damages. I quite going because of the cruelty to dogs. The wild animals continually mauled them. I liked it when we never bayed anything.
If a dog chased a deer Mark would catch the dog and get a small sappling and tap on his head making the dog's eye twitch for about 5 minutes. A humane way of discouraging the dog. Another method is to put the dog in a barrel w/deer meat and roll it down the hill. I told those guys if i knew about doing that to a dog i would report them.
Yep, that is maggot Jean. They are not heavy into chasing deer. But about every 3rd year i hear dogs running the deer. I visit neighboring hunters and show them photos of my dogs and explain to them they are my kids. Very rarely is there a hunter within a mile of my property. And the few that are are my neighbors and we are cool.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 20, 2013 17:13:51 GMT -5
In Alabama, they used dogs to run the deer on the mountain behind us at night. I always felt they treated the dogs inhumanely, not like the family members they have always been to me.
I've watched a few of those "hogger" shows on TV (just for laughs, at how stupid the people are!), and the poor dogs are always getting torn up. I know some dogs are just born to work, and they like to do nothing better. But it is cruel when the dogs are in am unsafe position and get injured.
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Post by jamesp on Sept 20, 2013 20:29:01 GMT -5
It is cruel Jean. Maybe more so than dog fighting in a sense. How can ya be abusive to a dog?
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Post by jamesp on Sept 26, 2013 10:55:29 GMT -5
Got a pair of deer and a silver back Now that is scary:)
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Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 26, 2013 11:08:35 GMT -5
Where's your rack, buck? LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 12:31:15 GMT -5
lol
silverhead! Can't see the back!
----------thankful for that actually--------------------
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Post by jamesp on Sept 26, 2013 14:45:11 GMT -5
You can always tell the size of the deer by the length of his horn...
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Post by jamesp on Oct 1, 2013 12:33:41 GMT -5
The posture looks like a buck.... She is well camo'ed See the short white line center and a bit down and to right. Should be the eye of a Bobcat or a coyote cause it is moving fast. Frustrated camera setter upper Thanks for visit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 13:50:08 GMT -5
yeah, I bought a couple of those cameras. Unless you spend big money they are difficult and quirky to set up.
There is a whole industry built around hacking a sony a320 with some cables and a $40 electronic brain to control it.
Dude, you look pissed. I better remember to not piss you off.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 1, 2013 14:31:25 GMT -5
I am scrutinizing. My wife gave me the stress marks. Or cutting the intestines out of a victim captured from serial killer hobby .LOL.
That is a primos from Walmart and is very friendly to use. $60. Menu driven programs give me a headache. I got it figured now. Those pics are at a bottleneck. a 200 foot wide forested strip between neighbors 1000 feet and my 1000 foot farms. The deer only go north thru that pass so it is grand central. I have killed 3 deer in one morning on several occasions there. When rut comes in November i s when i hunt. I may see a dozen in morn or eve. Lots a deer stories. I'll spare you.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Oct 1, 2013 14:46:31 GMT -5
I had wondered what your ultimate purpose was for the game camera. To see when your dogs were getting home? To check on deer population on your property, see what's running around out there? Or for getting pics of a not-too-happy camper, trying to get camera set? (sorry, couldn't resist!)
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Post by jamesp on Oct 1, 2013 20:22:00 GMT -5
Mostly for approaching deer season and recent interest in photo graphy Jean. But amusing to see the dogs. I have a dog tracker that goes on their neck an it tells me direction and distance up to 1/2 mile. Often put it on visiting dogs that are not used to such wilderness. It is miles to the nearest road/house south and west of this house.
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Post by quartz on Oct 2, 2013 23:03:53 GMT -5
While hunting limbcast on private ground [by invitation] this spring, we saw one of those cameras strapped to a tree. Made us wonder how many we didn't see, and how many featured pictures of us.
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Post by jamesp on Oct 3, 2013 7:54:11 GMT -5
Those cameras at $50 have changed security monitoring. I do not like my privacy being infringed on. You and Carol better not be hanky pankyin and get recorded.LOL.
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 3, 2013 8:13:59 GMT -5
I had wondered how much those cameras cost. In terms of hunting gear, I have resisted utilizing any newer tech. than a small pair of binoculars I bought in 1982. My old wool clothes, knife, buck saw, drag rope and the ol' .270 have seen me through many adventures, and the simplicity helps keep the tracking skills honed.
I must admit It would be great to see what is working the game trails. And I see the value as a security measure as well.
James, you could make up some posters with that self-portrait, "(Have you seen this man?) to put on your border trees, doubt you would get many interlopers. . .
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Post by jamesp on Oct 3, 2013 8:57:19 GMT -5
Wear and tear of life has taken a toll. I think the post office has a bunch of posters that would work perfectly. haha. That is flat ugly. Think i care???
I am very old school hunter. All south hunters use stands. I am always on ground. And used to smoke to play the wind game. And just like being a bit more primitive. With a 270 we have a serious edge anyway.
My friends want the camera. They want to see what's here when they hunt cause i am in the prime area and i am the pinnacle of their hunt.
But i must say the photos are much more for pleasure and sharing and my 3 hounds.
If you have thick brush they are super useful. That one photo took at 60 -70 feet away. It does video too. Built like mil spec. East to use. Buddy Virgil has 1000's of photos on all kinds of property.
Man i would like to show Montana monsters cruising the woods.
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Post by grayfingers on Oct 3, 2013 9:07:08 GMT -5
Hahaa, I meant you look Badass, not ugly. Yeah, I grew up hunting Mule deer and Elk, Whitetails have only pushed into this part of the state in recent years. For the above mentioned critters, this is a big country and one has to cover a lot of it, pausing for no more than 10 minutes at likely places.
I have tried hunting Whitetails from a stand, but get too fidgety. The .270 has a nice flat trajectory, I sight dead on at 25 yards, with the hand loads that puts the shot 3 inches high at 100 yards, and right on again at 300. For cross canyon elk, I use a 7MM - like a .270 for flat shooting, but has more tickle out further.
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