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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 25, 2014 13:34:55 GMT -5
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Sabre52
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Post by Sabre52 on Jan 25, 2014 13:41:33 GMT -5
Looks OK except your first slab looks like it will be a wedge cut as it does not look parallel to the blade in the pic. The slabs just drop on the table. Don't know why your vice base appears slanted. For thicker slabs, you should calibrate your cross feed if it does not give you that info in your instructions, so you know how far the vice travels with one turn of the adjustment wheel or whatever. The vice on my saw travels about 1mm per turn and I prefer slabs about 6-7mm thick so crank the wheel accordingly.....Mel
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 25, 2014 13:43:17 GMT -5
It appears slanted because it is slanted & the slab is not going to drop on the table!
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Post by DirtCleaner on Jan 25, 2014 13:49:50 GMT -5
That looks messed up.
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 25, 2014 14:01:22 GMT -5
Took the vise off & trying to figure out why right now. What a way to get an education!!!!!
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QuailRiver
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Post by QuailRiver on Jan 25, 2014 14:47:37 GMT -5
Something looks very wrong there to me. The vise should not be slopping down. Judging from that fresh coat of paint it appears someone just did a refurb on this saw. Whoever did the refurb may not have gotten the saw parts put back together right or left some parts off. Here is a link to the owner's manual for the Lortone 10" saw. www.lortone.com/pdf/LS10_Instructions.pdfMaybe you can look at the parts diagram and see if it looks like all of the parts are there. Larry C.
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 25, 2014 14:56:45 GMT -5
There must be an adjustment that raises that carriage so the slab is above the shelf. Since it is slanted down towards the blade it must adjust to swing up so the slab will land on the shelf.
And like Mel said it is cutting a wedge.
In the 4 th photo and the back wall of the saw it looks like two guide shafts for the carriage to ride on. They must adjust some way so that the vise table is sitting flat like the rock catching table is.
Some one here has that saw. You can look up the model on the inet and probably get some instructions. I do it with my Covington saw.
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GeorgeStoneStore
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Post by GeorgeStoneStore on Jan 25, 2014 15:47:01 GMT -5
Dear Donnie, please make more photos from the bottom side of vise
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juzwuz
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Post by juzwuz on Jan 25, 2014 16:21:56 GMT -5
I just went out to my garage to look at my LS10 saw just to see the differences between your pictures and my saw. It looks like in your first picture you might have two washers to the left of the blade when there should only be one. That will move your blade closer to the table. The vise should be level with the table rather than slanted. Try to take some pictures showing the area where the vise carriage rides on the two round shafts.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jan 25, 2014 17:34:27 GMT -5
Yep, someone really botched the assembly. The 2 washers should be on both sides of the blade with the concave surfaces against the blade. I also think the upper carriage way is not correctly installed. Take the rock out, take the blade off, and slide the vice carriage to the rear as far as it will go. You may need to unhook the auto shut off chain to do this. Once you get it back further take some pics to show how the vice carriage is connected, or not connected to the guide rods it is supposed to travel on. The 2 travel rods should be exactly one right above the other, and bolted in place at both ends. The drawings on page 5 and 6 of the link QuailRiver sent you show it to some degree. After we see the pics we can refer to the part numbers on the drawing to guide you through correct re-assembly. It should be fairly easy to fix. Lee #2
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 25, 2014 17:45:19 GMT -5
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Thunder69
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Post by Thunder69 on Jan 25, 2014 18:41:13 GMT -5
HEy Donnie ...In your second set of pics..second one ,there are two bolts holding the vise to the guide shaft ,loosen them and see if it will level it if not..in the third pic..Loosen the screws on the crank and see if it will tilt back level...if not try to use the crank to see if it pulls it back flush..If it dose and it is level.. tighten them back up...John
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 25, 2014 18:57:01 GMT -5
Thanks you all. I am glad it is just a matter of adjustment. I looked at it real good & did try the loosen those two nuts & couldn't budge them but I will get my cousin to help me with it tomorrow. I WILL get this baby cutting yet!!!!!!
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 25, 2014 19:38:47 GMT -5
The other thing I was wondering about is the speed. Can that be adjusted according the whatever rock is being cut or is it just one speed?
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GeorgeStoneStore
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Post by GeorgeStoneStore on Jan 26, 2014 3:09:37 GMT -5
Donnie. I think it is a problem. fixed axis is not the right place. (Blue area) Loosen screw (circled) will pull back axis that . Then pull back bolt I think it is because of this whole wrong angle. The speed not be adjusted. Corresponding 1750 rpm / 10 "blade, good generally every rock .
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 26, 2014 6:25:31 GMT -5
I see what you are saying George. To make whole plate(052-106) move to vertical.
So loosen set (screw)bolt and pull top of plate to (right) direction till vertical and then tighten set (screw)bolt?
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 26, 2014 6:29:19 GMT -5
Thank you George & everyone else too! I do believe I will have this saw running today!
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GeorgeStoneStore
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Post by GeorgeStoneStore on Jan 26, 2014 7:42:14 GMT -5
I see what you are saying George. To make whole plate(052-106) move to vertical. So loosen set (screw)bolt and pull top of plate to (right) direction till vertical and then tighten set (screw)bolt? James, I think the 052-05 or 052-06 cross feed rod not perpendicular the 052-106 carriage. Or 052-16 carriage way wrong angled (not parallel to saw blade) would be easier there to solve the problem. making it difficult to, but not impossible if more photos
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jamesp
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Post by jamesp on Jan 26, 2014 9:17:26 GMT -5
I see what you are saying George. To make whole plate(052-106) move to vertical. So loosen set (screw)bolt and pull top of plate to (right) direction till vertical and then tighten set (screw)bolt? James, I think the 052-05 or 052-06 cross feed rod not perpendicular the 052-106 carriage. Or 052-16 carriage way wrong angled (not parallel to saw blade) would be easier there to solve the problem. making it difficult to, but not impossible if more photos Yes George. That is the way i understand you. Diagram is not easy. Photo will help.
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Post by Donnie's Rocky Treasures on Jan 26, 2014 9:48:33 GMT -5
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