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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 13:50:14 GMT -5
I am waiting to drill the hole to set maximum depth on the outside water pool.
I am concerned that water table 6-8" below the plants in humid Georgia won't translate to dry California. We may need higher water levels to keep the surface of the peat moss from drying.
Jim; during summer a standing pool of water loses 1" a day to evaporation in our summers. How does that translate in Georgia?
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Post by Pat on Mar 1, 2014 13:56:51 GMT -5
jamesp reminds me of a friend telling us that in his wild, younger days, he rode his motorcycle without a helmut. Me: Didn't you get bugs in your teeth? He: Don't ask. Me:  The rider in your photo looks mighty happy about it! I notice he caught only little bugs. Whew!
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 14:34:59 GMT -5
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Post by Pat on Mar 1, 2014 14:56:18 GMT -5
jamesp, Yes, thanks! Feeding them will be ..... interesting! I'm with Jean: no momma bird here 
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 15:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 15:49:40 GMT -5
I am waiting to drill the hole to set maximum depth on the outside water pool. I am concerned that water table 6-8" below the plants in humid Georgia won't translate to dry California. We may need higher water levels to keep the surface of the peat moss from drying. Jim; during summer a standing pool of water loses 1" a day to evaporation in our summers. How does that translate in Georgia? Great idea. Low humidity is certainly not my forte. Good thinking Scott. These 3 foot containers have been planted for 7-8 years. I keep harvesting from them. The plants are so mature they keep growing to fill out what i took. The bigger containers should be your target if you like them and they prosper. They become aggressive in numbers. They too are sitting in about 5 inches of water and are 12 inches deep. They are just stock plants so i do not weed them much.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 16:17:35 GMT -5
those 3' tubs are common out here for koi or water gardens. Interesting.
It's the pet shop owner in me. I used to solve animal problems for kids all the time. They would read a care sheet for a snake that was written by a world renowned export - in Virginia and apply his techniques here in the desert. A month later the snake wont eat. hmmmmm..............
let's make some adjustments in care.
But he's the expert...........
He is in Virginia it's humid there! We are dry, adjustments required. Lesson learned on a $3000 snake!
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Post by Pat on Mar 1, 2014 16:26:01 GMT -5
Pat, here is a delicious pre-digested, high protein porridge of ant abdomens, lady bugs and a hornet. This is a nice target consistency for you
and Jean to strive for. If you just hold your nose you will make it thru the process. Being out of focus is probably better.  Probably! Mmmmm, yum! It looks like the plant already ate those critters, or the momma plant did. I see there are about 61,000 web sources for how to raise them. I look forward to my new adventure with these new pets.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 18:10:52 GMT -5
Mmmmm, yum! It looks like the plant already ate those critters, or the momma plant did. Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/64556/north-american-pitcher-plants-california?page=2&scrollTo=730187#ixzz2ukshq1jOWaxed dental floss works best Pat. They are about all from the SE US. If you study their territory they cross breed at the overlaps. The corner The Alabama Florida state line is the area that most overlap. There is probably over 100 hybrids. It may be that no one knows what is totally pure. The most impressive one i ever saw was Leah Wilkerson. Discovered by a friend of mine that i probably influenced. They are popular to Australia. My favorite book on them is from Australia. Leah Wikerson  |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 18:29:26 GMT -5
Here is an overlap that is as good as it gets. You got Flava(yellow) to the left behind and right of the pine tree. You got Leucophylla hybrid to the top right(white tops). Probably Leah Wilkerson in the middle. Or plain old white/red top leucophylla. Crosses between Leucs and Flava like Leah are some of the best.  The white flowers are star grass(dichromia). |
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Post by Pat on Mar 1, 2014 18:33:47 GMT -5
Your pitchers look mighty well fed. Guess they keep the local bug population down. I wonder if they eat our ever-present snails or slugs.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 18:50:28 GMT -5
Jamesp loves these places. And does not collect out of the wild.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 18:51:31 GMT -5
Your pitchers look mighty well fed. Guess they keep the local bug population down. I wonder if they eat our ever-present snails or slugs. Those and small frogs. Meat is meat to those guys. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 19:06:59 GMT -5
A carnivorous plant conservancy.
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Post by radio on Mar 1, 2014 20:03:43 GMT -5
LOL! seat and gas tank are a bit out of proportion in opposite directions, eh? Bugs in the teeth don't compare to the strip of mud up your back from the uncovered tire |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 20:17:36 GMT -5
Best ridden on dry days. Tire is rough on passengers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 21:54:56 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 2, 2014 17:13:16 GMT -5
I just planted these about the time Jean and Scott planted theirs from bare root plants Brian. I hope they walk all over me and end up w/rabbit eating size plants.
Scott and I (and Pat!) might get some nice warm temps during the day, but I think the greenhouse will give a huge advantage to your plants, James. We probably don't stand a chance of walking all over you!
Temps at night have been warm lately - only down into the lower 50s - during this latest storm. But normal winter temps can get into upper 30s, lower 40s here.
The setup will be on the south side of the garage, on pavers. That may help hold some heat, but the plants won't stay as warm as if in a greenhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 17:18:49 GMT -5
mine will get 75% direct sun (25% of the day in morning shade) on the hot side of the house. But like Jean says - even in summer we get 65-70 at night. Greenhouse also has humidity we dont have.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 2, 2014 17:52:55 GMT -5
We are 72-82 at the low during the summer. Cool nights may be an issue.I think they will like your high radiation light.I agree with you Jean about the greenhouse. If your plants grow equally or better or even somewhat lessor than the house then your enviro is great. Cool speriment. Here is a California grower in Sebastopol CA. They wrote one of the books... www.californiacarnivores.com/species.aspx |
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