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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 19:45:05 GMT -5
yeah saw his website. He has some cool shit. Cant tell if he uses a greenhouse or not.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 2, 2014 20:27:02 GMT -5
It wouldn't be hard for me to move it into the garage overnight, and back out first thing in the morning... just thinking out loud. Night time temps shouldn't be getting too low in a month or so.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 20:52:04 GMT -5
I am leaving them out. This may be the lowest maintenence plant I have ever raised. Just add water. No fertilizer required.
Jim we have the problem of no bugs compared to Atlanta too.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 2, 2014 22:04:00 GMT -5
I would not move them once. Either they do or don't. I would not have sent them if i thought you had to do anything except add water. They do not start eating bugs for at least a month after the pitchers develop anyway. The rhizomes have last years goodies stored in them. You guys could look on the net to see if you have growers in your area. Some one has them . I can not sell mine till May 1.
Thats when the pitchers are about half formed. Saying that they are much slower than my other plants. And they have to go thru a winter dormancy. For rest.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 3, 2014 7:59:17 GMT -5
I am leaving them out. This may be the lowest maintenence plant I have ever raised. Just add water. No fertilizer required. Jim we have the problem of no bugs compared to Atlanta too. I thought about putting a night light on a timer in the greenhouse to attract bugs. The most crazy thing is summer full moons. When the moon shines on the white topped leucophylla's attracting light seeking moths fill them up till they fall over. The leuc's and their crosses are strong growers and user friendly. Tarnok is a double flowering hybrid and i buy them from tissue culture to avoid plant protection. And the less strong Dana's Delight is a leuc cross, blood red pitchers. They eat bees readily. Flies ants and mosquitos very much. I don't know about scorpions... |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 3, 2014 10:16:28 GMT -5
I think the lowest maintenance plants I have are the epidendrums. They thrive on being ignored, yet give beautiful shows of flowers for months and months. This is an old pic, a friend gave me a large pot of the purple ones more recently. And yes, those are rocks in buckets in background on right. 
These I do have to water, and throw some Osmocote fertilizer on them occasionally.
Actually, some of my cactus get even less attention, I don't even water them. These are San Pedro cactus, and I'm told they can sell for about $10 per foot. 
Flowers are about eight feet off the ground! 
Moving the PPs off the patio to the south of the garage. Okay, I won't move them once they are in place.
Went to Huntington Gardens a few years ago, saw these: 
These were in a greenhouse, and doing well. They also had other tropical plants in another location, heated and extremely humid.
Scott, if you've never been, you should check out the Huntington Gardens, they are located in San Marino. Acres and acres of plants, we mainly went to see all the cactus. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 11:00:45 GMT -5
yeah, someday. Nobody wants to go with me.......  |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 3, 2014 13:46:35 GMT -5
Poor poor Scott.
Fine looking plant. San Pedros. One of my employees used to cook the mescaline out of them. Do they bloom every year?
Do some varieties of century plants really only bloom every 100 years. I know one that only blooms every 7 years.
I know running bamboo only blooms every 60 or 120 years.
Those epidemic a dendrums look like desert plants with the crooked alien stems.
The pitcher plants are not tropical really. They need a winter to rest. They easily handle 0F here. The longer the winter rest the better they show out.
I leave the doors to the greenhouse wide open all winter to put them in deep dormancy. Then close it about now to send them on.
Glad to see them growing at Huntington. They could grow better here in an outside mini greenhouse that gets real hot. Like a hot terrarium.
The biggest problem i see w/them growing any further north is the bloom gets bit off by the March frosts preventing reproduction,
The first thing you guys should see is the 3/8" bud rising on the Alata. At the front of the growing tip. May not even have alatas. I just pilfered what was easy to get.
Pretty sure the most were the best one-flava.
Poor Scott. If i lived there i would go with you for $20.
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Post by RockIt2Me on Mar 3, 2014 18:21:31 GMT -5
The nursery industry grows some things in white pots. Maybe Clematis for one example since the roots are best kept cool/shaded. So now i have mentioned the height, the color, the location of the drain hole, and your attitude. Picky picky. By the way, i had to plant another row of Alatas last week. So they will be cut plants like yours and Scott's starting at the same time. I will be interested to see if you guys can push them up faster. Mine have 2 advantages, they are in a hot greenhouse and they are growing on concrete. The advantage of the concrete is that it absorbs heat during the day and stores it well into the night. I tried to get my neighbor in Florida to grow some
but he had so much shade.i.e. to see what the higher temps would do. Since the aliens ate all your foliage out there sunlight is plentiful.And are you guys having warm nights or does it drop a lot in temp? i know the low humidity allows the air to cool rapidly. Again, aliens sucking the moisture out of your air. This is this time last year. The water has been drained out for trimming/cleaning. One 4 inch drain drains the whole area. Water is acid 6.5 PH gravity fed from creek. I am getting rid of those little 4 inch pots and bumping them up to 6" pots along w/the price. The plants choke them selves in the 4 inch pots and reproduce in the 6 inch pots. So it allows me to increase inventory instead of throwing away choked out 4 inch pots. Will get a photo of this year's crop.  If you need a high humidity, high heat, high bug population with plenty of sun, I could be part of your 'speriment. I am in zone 9/10, in south Louisiana (Thibodaux) and I happen to have a green thumb. Sounds like an interesting project. |
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Post by vegasjames on Mar 3, 2014 19:10:38 GMT -5
Actually, some of my cactus get even less attention, I don't even water them. These are San Pedro cactus, and I'm told they can sell for about $10 per foot.
That's because they are hallucinogenic. Not as strong as some other species of cacti though, so it takes about one foot of San Pedro for an effect. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 20:15:37 GMT -5
Or walmart is unaware of the reason they sell so many San Pedros. I used to sell snakes to a dude was selling it on Amazon. Claimed he had 50 acres dedicated to a particular strain of the plant.
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 3, 2014 20:42:15 GMT -5
The most crazy thing is summer full moons. When the moon shines on the white topped leucophylla's attracting light seeking moths fill them up till they fall over. They eat bees readily. Flies ants and mosquitos very much. I don't know about scorpions... James, I see the potential for a biological bug-zapper here. Just introduce some of the bioluminescent material fireflies carry in their genes to the leucophyllas and watch the light show! Of course if they eat too well and mutate to larger size, my idea might be setting us up for a "Day of the Triffids" scenario. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 3, 2014 20:55:07 GMT -5
Or walmart is unaware of the reason they sell so many San Pedros. I used to sell snakes to a dude was selling it on Amazon. Claimed he had 50 acres dedicated to a particular strain of the plant. Have known some growers that had an excessive supply. They seem to fit the role of cooking a few up. |
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 3, 2014 21:13:20 GMT -5
Nah, James. I've been hoarding Round-Up for just such an emergency. And if it doesn't work some of our giant California slugs will make short work of the pitcher plants.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 4, 2014 0:44:54 GMT -5
Feed me, Seymour!!
James, yes, the San Pedros do bloom every year. And so easy to propagate, just place broken off stems bottom down on the ground, leaning against the fence and they root and take off. Soon the entire length of the back fence will be solid cacti. I had no idea of their "pharmaceutical" value, I consider them ornamental.
Scott, too bad no one cares to go visit the garden with you, you're missing out!
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Post by jamesp on Mar 4, 2014 6:44:52 GMT -5
Nah, James. I've been hoarding Round-Up for just such an emergency. And if it doesn't work some of our giant California slugs will make short work of the pitcher plants. Hoarding Round-Up for such a purpose eh? I'll take Seymour(I mean Audrey, thanks Jean) over the slugs any day. A ring of salt around the bed sounds safe to me. |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 4, 2014 6:51:16 GMT -5
James, yes, the San Pedros do bloom every year. And so easy to propagate, just place broken off stems bottom down on the ground, leaning against the fence and they root and take off. Soon the entire length of the back fence will be solid cacti. I had no idea of their "pharmaceutical" value, I consider them ornamental. Read more: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/64556/north-american-pitcher-plants-california?page=4&scrollTo=730783#ixzz2uzfcuHkCScott mentioned that his client sold San Pedro over the net. Elliot said you could buy it on the internet. Pre prepared and highly breed for the purpose of extraction. Other cactus too. As it was fair game to sell native cactus. Sounds like you have a San Pedro production facility going Jean. Passer-bys may consider you a dope er. You sure you don't have San Pedro salads Jean ?? |
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