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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 21:47:08 GMT -5
jamesp was too kind and mailed me four Serracenia tubers. Plus, he would not take money. Somebody make him let me pay him. kap, can you twist his arm for me? I'm too far. Maybe I'll call his bride and have pizza delivered to her. Anyways, it's kind of an experiment for Jim, me and rockpickerforever to try growing them in SoCal. On the phone Jim said that the hotter the plants get the brighter the colors. He is hoping 110 here in Chino will have the glowing. His greenhouse is hotter, so time will tell. Here is my starter setup.  I'll add more images as the plants mature (or fail) and I hope Jean will accept this thread as her own too.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 27, 2014 23:03:10 GMT -5
They eat bugs. But when starting off they need regurgitated bugs. So Scott and Jean need to chew the bugs before feeding.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 28, 2014 1:49:14 GMT -5
I will do my best for them up to a point, but you can bet that I am not going to play momma bird and feed them regurtitated pre-chewed bugs. No how, no way.
I can understand them liking the high temps, but worry about the low humidity here. As the late Sam Kinnison would say, "You live in a f**king desert!" Well, most of the time it is. Will see how it goes.
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Post by jamesp on Feb 28, 2014 4:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Feb 28, 2014 4:31:09 GMT -5
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Post by radio on Feb 28, 2014 8:16:36 GMT -5
Harley Davidson rider right there! One more reason I always preferred a Honda Goldwing. The windshield keeps the bugs outta your teeth  |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 28, 2014 9:58:11 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 28, 2014 10:17:01 GMT -5
Reminds me of an old joke my dad used to tell-
How can you tell a happy motorcycle rider?
By the bugs in his teeth.
I remember as a kid, pondering over what it meant. Guess there was a time when I wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree, lol.
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Post by grayfingers on Feb 28, 2014 10:24:14 GMT -5
Wow, that is neat. It will be interesting to see how they bloom in California.
James, your bike is way cool. I bet you get offers on it, or at least a lot of questions. . .
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Post by rockpickerforever on Feb 28, 2014 11:35:41 GMT -5
Planted my serracenia yesterday. Here's my setup-
Black nursery pot is 12" ID at top, and 10" tall, white bucket is std 5 gallon rock bucket. 
Not that low humidity is a problem today, but I covered top of peat moss with some sphagnum moss to retain moisture. 
Four larger ones, and a few smaller ones. I'll give the little ones a chance. 
White bucket makes it easy to see water level. Probably need to add an inch or two now. 
Ready to grow! 
This is one of the smaller plants, cute little cobra head! 
And a green one. Here, let me chew that bug up for you... NOT! 
I have a problem with fruit flies in the kitchen when I have ripe bananas. If I placed on nearby, It would probably attract some small bugs that the plants could eat?
One last question - The water here is very alkaline, and I imagine these bog plants would prefer neutral to mildly acidic pH. James, do you think it might be a good idea to collect some of the rain I'm getting right now, and save it for these plants?
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Post by droseraguy on Feb 28, 2014 11:41:39 GMT -5
You're both off and running ! Now to find you some flytraps too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 12:50:42 GMT -5
You're both off and running ! Now to find you some flytraps too. Bad@ss! |
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Post by jamesp on Feb 28, 2014 21:51:13 GMT -5
Jean, you might want to find an oil change tub or large dog water bowl. If it rains hard it may flood. Oil change tubs are about 18-22 inches in diameter 5 inches tall and makes watering easy.
I am lazy and leave the hose dripping till a 4-5 inch pan overflows. Or you can drill a hole in the 5 gallon bucket about 4-5 inches up. Might be blocking sunlight too. Am i picky ?
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Post by jamesp on Feb 28, 2014 21:56:14 GMT -5
Wow, that is neat. It will be interesting to see how they bloom in California. James, your bike is way cool. I bet you get offers on it, or at least a lot of questions. . . My Dad gave it to me about 7 years ago. He flipped out when he saw what i did to it. Said it reminded him of his old Indian.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 1, 2014 1:55:50 GMT -5
James, you picky? Naw, well maybe just a little. Right now, the pot is on the patio. It is still in full sun (had the sun been shining today), but protected from the rain. I will either get a shallower outer container, or drill a hole in the bucket. I don't think the height of the bucket would block the light, but I'm sure you know best. Will get it taken care of over the weekend.
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 6:57:33 GMT -5
The nursery industry grows some things in white pots. Maybe Clematis for one example since the roots are best kept cool/shaded. So now i have mentioned the height, the color, the location of the drain hole, and your attitude. Picky picky. By the way, i had to plant another row of Alatas last week. So they will be cut plants like yours and Scott's starting at the same time. I will be interested to see if you guys can push them up faster. Mine have 2 advantages, they are in a hot greenhouse and they are growing on concrete. The advantage of the concrete is that it absorbs heat during the day and stores it well into the night. I tried to get my neighbor in Florida to grow some but he had so much shade.i.e. to see what the higher temps would do. Since the aliens ate all your foliage out there sunlight is plentiful. And are you guys having warm nights or does it drop a lot in temp? i know the low humidity allows the air to cool rapidly. Again, aliens sucking the moisture out of your air. This is this time last year. The water has been drained out for trimming/cleaning. One 4 inch drain drains the whole area. Water is acid 6.5 PH gravity fed from creek. I am getting rid of those little 4 inch pots and bumping them up to 6" pots along w/the price. The plants choke them selves in the 4 inch pots and reproduce in the 6 inch pots. So it allows me to increase inventory instead of throwing away choked out 4 inch pots. Will get a photo of this year's crop.  |
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Post by grayfingers on Mar 1, 2014 8:53:52 GMT -5
Nice start to the season, James. When I was a greenhouse grower I hated 4" pots. I went to the 4 1/2 " square deep pots, made all the difference for the plants in terms of holding temp, water and room for a nice root system. We can grow some Clematis here, mostly The purple Jackmanii as the more bred up ones are not as hardy. We also have a native Clematis,(occidentalis, western blue virginsbower). The old grower that taught me horticulture said to remember what clematis like, said remember "hot heads and cold feet".
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Post by beefjello on Mar 1, 2014 10:42:03 GMT -5
James, you're a regular Johnny Appleseed.. heh
Too cool, look forward to seeing how these do on the left coast!
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 13:09:33 GMT -5
Nice start to the season, James. When I was a greenhouse grower I hated 4" pots. I went to the 4 1/2 " square deep pots, made all the difference for the plants in terms of holding temp, water and room for a nice root system. We can grow some Clematis here, mostly The purple Jackmanii as the more bred up ones are not as hardy. We also have a native Clematis,(occidentalis, western blue virginsbower). The old grower that taught me horticulture said to remember what clematis like, said remember "hot heads and cold feet". OK Bill, where were you 20 years ago. I stepped some to 6 inch pots as a test 2 years ago and they did very well. Here is the house this year- all 6 inch pots except the weed choked 4 inchers at lower right.  Here is what 2 years does in a larger 6 inch pot(4 buds on a single tuber)  |
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Post by jamesp on Mar 1, 2014 13:14:43 GMT -5
James, you're a regular Johnny Appleseed.. heh Too cool, look forward to seeing how these do on the left coast! I just planted these about the time Jean and Scott planted theirs from bare root plants Brian. I hope they walk all over me and end up w/rabbit eating size plants.  |
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