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Post by jamesp on Apr 3, 2014 5:41:04 GMT -5
I fell for it, too, but I am now grinning from ear to ear all the way down the page. You are gooood! Who are you referring to Pat as being 'gooood' ? James for his trick or Jean w/her vernier ? |
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Post by Pat on Apr 3, 2014 9:37:11 GMT -5
You plural : )
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Post by droseraguy on Apr 3, 2014 10:48:43 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing grayfingers, like how we timed the Easter Lilies with temp and leaf count. Thought James was on to something new and exciting. Still chuckling though  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 4, 2014 14:59:28 GMT -5
After getting the link from James to the "How to Pollinate a Sarracenia" site, I went out to check on the one of mine that is blooming. Pulled back the petals and took a look - it is already dropping pollen! Good thing I kept after James to get me some info, lol. Followed the advice from the site, and, using a q-tip, transferred pollen to the five stigmas.
Took a few pics, will add them after I get them uploaded to pb. While taking the pics, I noticed that James had given me something else unanticipated. Will post that as well.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 4, 2014 15:53:53 GMT -5
Since I have only one plant blooming at present, obviously, if any seed sets, they will be same as parent plant. I seriously doubt any of my neighbors have some of these in adjoining yards.
You can understand how hard it is for bees to pollinate these, since the petals, sepals and style all overlap. After a bee has collected pollen, it exits the flower the easiest way, which does not take it past the stigmas (female parts of the flower). 
This is the "dip" the bee would exit through. 
After falling off the anthers (male parts of the flower), the pollen lies at the bottom of the flower, waiting for an insect to come pick it up. 
Anthers are the yellow bits top and center. The stigma are found on the back side of the v-shaped notch just above my thumb in photo. 
This is where the pollen needs to get to for pollination to occur. 
Side view of one of the five stigma. 
Okay, that's enough plant sex for now. Will transfer more pollen with q-tip in the next couple of days. If seed sets, it will not be fully ripe until mid-September. Should be able to tell befoe then if it got pollinated by the swelling of the ovaries in the pistil.
James, here's the other freebie you sent me. I thought it was a part of the plant that didn't make it (yet), until I noticed the leaves growing. Can you tell what it is? 
A better shot. A tree of some kind? It has a woody stem, maybe a berry bramble? Kind of looks like mulberry leaves. 
Doesn't look like poison ivy, anyway. 
Let me know if it's something bad, so I can get rid of it. |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 4, 2014 18:11:55 GMT -5
A hint Jean  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 5, 2014 10:10:53 GMT -5
Just a hint, huh? Duh, do ya thunk I'm smart enough to get it, lol? I'm thinking that's a sugar maple on the Canada flag. Is that what the one you sent is? Hmmm, wonder where I can put it? Maybe next to one of the macadamia seedlings, once that goes in the ground. Obviously, it needs to come out of the sarracenia pot. I guess a larger pot with soil, for now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 13:41:57 GMT -5
New photos coming soon.
Jim, I need some utricularia for the mosquito larvae in my outside pot. Do you have any?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 13:50:22 GMT -5
Somebody ate into my flower!  What is this one?  |
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Post by Pat on Apr 5, 2014 14:30:25 GMT -5
Yikes! Were you able to find the early bird? NO EARLYBIRDS!
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 5, 2014 14:31:45 GMT -5
Somebody ate into my flower! OUCH! What is this one? Looks like jamesp sent you a maple tree as well, Scott. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 14:40:01 GMT -5
Mine grew from seed. But the leaf doesn't look maple'y to me.Longer and more oval, not 'star' shaped as in a classic maple. It's growing out of a dead sarracenia rhizome. I'll leave it. I doubt I will grow it out tho'. I am more into food producing trees.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 6, 2014 4:12:07 GMT -5
I sent you guys old stock. Old enough that tree seeds are germinating. There are Red Maples(not Sugar) NW of the Sarracenia stock pots up on the ridge. The NW wind blows the little helicopter seeds over into the stock pots. Those stock pots are 36 inches across and have avoided changing the peat for 6-7 years. The stock pots are riddled w/weeds and tree seedlings. The 18 inch stock pots have been set up further from the tree line so that wind blown gums and Red Maples will not seed out in the pots so much. That might be a Sweet Gum Scott. They seed out in moist pastures here. Causing cattlemen to mow them or pull a Round-up blotter over them. The young Red Maple leaves are red, then turn green. That looks like it might be a maple too. Not sure yet. Sorry your bloom got attacked. You guys obviously have insects ! Probably after the sweet pollen smell. Never experienced that one. who knows what nature will send your way. Sweet Gum and their spiked ping pong ball fruit. They get 4 feet in diameter. Fast grower.  |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 6, 2014 4:44:21 GMT -5
Just a hint, huh? Duh, do ya thunk I'm smart enough to get it, lol? I'm thinking that's a sugar maple on the Canada flag. Is that what the one you sent is? Hmmm, wonder where I can put it? Maybe next to one of the macadamia seedlings, once that goes in the ground. Obviously, it needs to come out of the sarracenia pot. I guess a larger pot with soil, for now. The Red Maple is a sexy tree. Planted as an ornamental too. It is thirsty though, growing in my low land farm. But will do up on a hill too. You may not have enough dormancy for it. It grows deep into Florida. |
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Post by Pat on Apr 6, 2014 9:47:16 GMT -5
@shotgunner, I don't think you want that sweetgum/liquid amber. We have one in the parkway between the sidewalk and the street. City planted it throughout the neighborhood. Baaaaad idea. Shallow roots. Tough balls. Anyone trips on the cracked sidewalk or steps on the ball and twists their ankle, homeowner is responsible. Most homeowners have replaced their liquid ambers. Need a permit! It's a tall, lovely tree. Wrong place. We sweep the balls up daily.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 11:26:01 GMT -5
yeah, those balls are death to skateboarders. I have many a raspberry knee and/or shoulder because of them.
We used to use them for ammo in what we called "sticker bomb fights".
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Post by jamesp on Apr 8, 2014 6:12:09 GMT -5
If the city planted gums any where close to our house mysterious beavers named Stihl and Huskvarna would appear on the scene. The wood is oily and chain saws go thru it like butter. But it is like splitting a rubber log with it's wiggly grain. Beaver's favorite. Why is it called 'liquid amber'. The next farm over is owned by a timber cutter. I must tell him that I have 'liquid ambers' for him. I am imagining the look on his face. Ah, it's latin name is liquidambar- now I get it. Did a web search. I have broken more mower blades on liquid amber roots than any other object. The dryer the ground the bigger the roots.  |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 8, 2014 9:44:51 GMT -5
Took these pics at my dad's yesterday - Liquid Amber! A good half hour is spent whenever I'm up there picking these dang spiky balls up! Notice how the roots go about six to eight inches above grade. Yes, James, I agree it plays hell with the mower! The ground is so thick with roots, it also makes it hard for water to soak into the parkway. This tree has lifted and broken the sidewalk several times, the city comes out and replaces. You'd think they would never have planted these as street trees! 
This is probably only a quarter of what was up here just a few weeks ago. It does get cold enough here for the leaves to turn colors in the fall. And then they fall, another mess! What is the best street tree? 
They are skateboards stoppers and ankle twisters for sure! Don't feel too good stepping on them in bare feet, either. 
When we had high winds a few weeks ago, I filled a 32 gallon trash can 3/4 full. 
I've always hated this tree. It is one of only a couple left in the neighborhood, most have been removed. Funny how the city decides what type of tree goes in the parkways. They provide and plant the trees, yet the homeowner is required to water, fertilize, prune and clean up after said tree. Also to have their homeowner's insurance pay for injuries sustained. Sidewalks get lifted, causing a hazard for pedestrians, as well as problems caused by the balls. When I clean them up, invariably, one of the neighbors will come over and comment that they miss seeing my mom raking them up, that used to be her job.
Forgot to mention, the power lines go down the other side of the street, so that's one more reason they had to go - the trees always grew into the lines. The city was always sending out trimming crews that butchered the liquid ambers. |
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Post by Pat on Apr 8, 2014 9:55:47 GMT -5
I thought we hired a city arborist to prevent this type of error. The word around here is they were selected for the parkways to provide fall color for the easterners who moved into the area!
San Jose doesn't send out butchering crews for parkway trees. Since it has lifted the sidewalk again, I'd like to have it removed. Years ago, we planted a California Pepper tree about 20' away in our front yard. Doesn't cause sidewalk problems.
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Post by stephent on Apr 8, 2014 10:48:28 GMT -5
Yep...those are Gum Trees.. I have them all over the yard and woods around here. One over in the South-West corner of my place is so big it takes 3 grown people to reach around it. Huge tree. Probably where all the "smaller" only 2ft diameter trees came from since this place was a open field 40 years ago and that big tree was the only tree for 100's of feet.
Quick growers... I left one about 3" in diameter and 12' tall right in front of the house when I cleared the land for a house and yard...it's now 18" in diameter and 50'-60' tall after 14 years. We won't talk about the pesky lawnmower blade eating roots or the small but spikey balls.
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