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Post by vugs on Aug 21, 2014 11:06:05 GMT -5
Nice trout. On the fly?
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Post by junglejim on Aug 21, 2014 11:12:23 GMT -5
Looks like a great day when you can catch fish like that with the rock bonus. Are you fly fishing? What were they hitting? Hottest weather of the year here now.
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Post by grayfingers on Aug 21, 2014 13:08:54 GMT -5
vugs & junglejim Well, Though usually secretive about method, but I will tell how I fish river trout. All fishermen have their own ways, here is what works for me. Flies? Oh, but of course! I was using a size 6 Garden Hackle Peacock. That is what I tell the tourists, when they ask. Leaves them baffled, as there is no such fly. That is my technical term for 'worms'. Actually, I also used a small silver spinner, that is what prompted the two bigger (male) browns to strike. I do fly fish, and used to tie my own flies. Flies are good now too, (small tan hoppers, smaller Parachute Adams, streamers too) We have just come off of the pitch of summer heat, not many hatches happening now besides spruce moths. I can usually fill my creel with my spin rod year-round. I know the waters around here well enough to guess what mood the trout are likely to be in considering weather and time of year, amount of water in the river, etc. I was fishing deeper runs, not holes. Big trout will feed in deep current that is rather swift as day breaks. On a cloudy day they stay longer before retiring for the day. I started off in low light, drifting worms on a light spinning rod, using as little weight as possible to drift with/under the current and not hang up. I cast across, and then walk down the river staying even with my line as the worm drifts near the bottom under the swifter current. This presentation is very natural, and little bow in the line so can feel / strike accurately, and covers a lot of water per cast. After it was more light out I switched to a small silver spinner, which I modify by replacing the treble hook with a smaller red treble, (works as an added attractor). I wade out as deep as I can at the head of a run, cast out a long way down current and slowly jig the spinner back up the current. The browns will be spawning in a month or so and are starting to get aggressive. They hit the spinner like a lightening bolt. . .
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Post by Fossilman on Aug 21, 2014 13:20:32 GMT -5
WOW! Great fish and excellent hounding.....Couldn't ask for better weather..Thumbs up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 15:49:19 GMT -5
Nice. What time is dinner? I have the rocks. Jim
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vugs
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Post by vugs on Aug 21, 2014 17:03:15 GMT -5
I wish we had more rivers with Browns here in Southern Cal. We have some good spots but not a whole lot. Northern Cal is much better for Browns. Im a bass guy myself and often use trout swimbaits to go after trophy bass. The bass down here feed on trout. Its a site to see them corral the school of trout in a cove a pick them off as the trout tailwalk and jump out of the water trying to escape. Since were talking fishing, heres a new custom trout pattern swimbait i havent thrown yet.
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junglejim
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Post by junglejim on Aug 21, 2014 21:40:42 GMT -5
vugs, did you make that yourself? I've been making trips out there for several years now dishing Lake Perris and Skinner. Love the big gills, redear and crappie out there.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 21, 2014 22:04:43 GMT -5
Successful day Bill. Rocks to cut and fish to smoke. What a life !
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Post by bcrockhound on Aug 21, 2014 22:13:56 GMT -5
Awesome! Freshwater fishing is a skill I admire. I am a big dummy ocean fisher. Fish and rocks, what a great haul.
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vugs
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Post by vugs on Aug 21, 2014 22:41:13 GMT -5
vugs, did you make that yourself? I've been making trips out there for several years now dishing Lake Perris and Skinner. Love the big gills, redear and crappie out there. No, i wish i had the skill. That bait is by Jerry Rago. I am very familiar with Lake Perris. Big bass there and world class 'gills. I've only fished Skinner a couple times. If you really want to have a great fishing trip next time head out a little further inland to Hemet and visit Diamond Valley Reservoir. I used to be a local there when i lived in Corona and fished the tourneys. If you have a boat they are strict about who gets on the water. Theres a one time inspection and you'll get a sticker if you pass which allows you to launch. You need a 4 stroke and they inspect you for Quagga mussels. If not, the rental boats are nice. Everything in that lake is trophy sized. Largemouths, smallmouths, stripers, cats, gills, aggressive holdover trout. Its a fishermans lake. No recreational water sports allowed. I love the place. Giant 'gills everywhere but i think you'd be impressed by the trout. The large holdovers are mean haha.. And often caught while fishing for bass.
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Post by iant on Aug 22, 2014 11:04:06 GMT -5
A fruitful trip! What a great way to spend a day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 13:41:11 GMT -5
is that a brookie I see there? Three species is a good day.
Do they have pink meat?
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Post by grayfingers on Aug 23, 2014 7:10:56 GMT -5
vugs, Nice swimbait! Only trout around here, though I have fished bass in Noxon Rapids dam on the Clark Fork. @shotgunner, Yep, they do have pink meat. Not quite as orange as the trout from mountain lakes with loads of fresh water shrimp to eat. No Brookies two 'bows and three browns. The smaller brown is a female. Montana brookie from a stream nearby.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 11:18:48 GMT -5
wow, that is a great image!
I asked about pink meat because the trout out here have white meat and they taste like mud. I imagine pink meat trout have better flavor.
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Post by grayfingers on Aug 23, 2014 12:02:23 GMT -5
wow, that is a great image! I asked about pink meat because the trout out here have white meat and they taste like mud. I imagine pink meat trout have better flavor. Scott, I didn't take the photo, it is a great one! I live very near this creek though. They are really pretty. Sad story in a way, this part of the east slope of the Rockies once only had native Cutthroat and Golden trout. I believe that cold, clean water and a diet rich in fresh water shrimp are what makes orange-fleshed trout my favorite meal. With green beans and fried spuds. Areas where there are less shrimp or other crustaceans, the meat can be more white, though still firm and sweet. Golden The Brookies, Rainbows and German Browns were introduced in/around the 1880s and eventually pushed the Cuts back into the high country. The Brookies really like the small mountain streams that were crucial spawning grounds for the Cuts, hence their depleted numbers. However, I must confess that I am happy to get to fish several species of trout locally. The Brook trout run small around here in our part of the state, as they are found mostly in the alpine streams. Good fighters, and tasty. Here is a pic of the largest Brookie I have caught. Was eight miles into the mountains at a old reservoir just after ice out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 18:21:18 GMT -5
Back in the day, ALL of southern california waters only had either steelhead or gold trouts. Golden trouts are insect eaters, they co-existed with the arroyo toad. Arroyo toad tadpoles are "pelagic". That is they swim in open waters. Golden trout don't eat them. They evolved together. Fast forward to the 1970's and a boom in sport fishing in SoCal. Our department of fish and game (tasked with the protection of California wildlife) decided to introduce a "better" game species, the rainbow trout. These get bigger and are more sporting for the sportfisherman. Fast forward again and the Arroyo Toad is all but extinct in California. They are now only found in the couple three streams that were never planted with rainbows. Ohh... and now one has to hike to great altitude far away from paved roads to find California golden trouts. Out state freshwater fish killed off by the state's own Department of Fish & Game. Genius! The Arroyo Toad (Bufo californicus)California Golden Trout Although in some waters they do get to 4-5#, I believe this is an adult. anglerslifelist.com/dasleepy75/trips/heritage-trout-challenge-vol-1-california-golden-trout
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 18:30:35 GMT -5
that big brookie is gorgeous. I bet it tasted sweet and clean too.
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Post by grayfingers on Aug 25, 2014 10:13:23 GMT -5
I wish we had more rivers with Browns here in Southern Cal. We have some good spots but not a whole lot. Northern Cal is much better for Browns. Im a bass guy myself and often use trout swimbaits to go after trophy bass. The bass down here feed on trout. Its a site to see them corral the school of trout in a cove a pick them off as the trout tailwalk and jump out of the water trying to escape. Since were talking fishing, heres a new custom trout pattern swimbait i havent thrown yet. So, have you ever tried a guppy pinch-bait for bass?
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Post by junglejim on Aug 25, 2014 11:57:28 GMT -5
Beautiful Brookie!! Replica mount?? We only have rainbows and browns here in Missouri or at least that's the only one's they stock. One hatchery raised some Brook Trout for another state and a few must have escaped because I saw a guy catch one last year and he didn't know what it was until I told him. He released it. These were beautiful, 16-18 inch fish. None were stocked in Missouri waters that I know of. Agent was surprised I knew about them but saw them in the hatchery pool. Never have caught one myself. Maybe there are a few swimming in that river. That little Golden is beautiful, great colors.
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vugs
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Post by vugs on Aug 25, 2014 21:17:41 GMT -5
So, have you ever tried a guppy pinch-bait for bass? Haha, i like to cast my lures. My buddy had a pet bass in an outdoor fountain pond. That sucker would eat anything except the catfish he shared the little pond with so you couldnt introduce any new fish.. You could try.. But like i said you couldnt introduce and new fish.
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