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Aug 24, 2014 18:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by Pat on Aug 24, 2014 18:59:15 GMT -5
That's wonderful ! The gold-speckled specimens will make beautiful cabs.
No telling what you'll find near a creek. Husband raised in Washington backwoods. Creek running through area. We found a lot of very old canning jars and lids, but nothing like you found.
Interested to see what you will do with your finds. Thanks for showing.
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Aug 25, 2014 0:08:08 GMT -5
Post by Joe on Aug 25, 2014 0:08:08 GMT -5
Beautiful!!!! I believe the nephrite is more prized and rare for good quality. Will love to see the cabs produced from these! Amazing what dried up creek beds have in them. Always have to walk through them!!!
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 10:32:12 GMT -5
Pat - What part of WA is your hubby from? I have a metal detector that I try to take with me on my "urban hikes" and come up with all sorts of unusual stuff, but I can't say I've ever found canning lids. joe - Thanks! Jadeite's definitely the rarer of the two. Especially around here. I run into Nephrite fairly often. It's in the landscaping rocks around here. This Jadeite seems to be localized to one specific area and seems to be associated with the fault zone that's been recently mapped through my area.
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Aug 25, 2014 10:41:41 GMT -5
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Post by Pat on Aug 25, 2014 10:41:41 GMT -5
It was Cranberry Creek about six miles west of Shelton. The area was the private dump of the families who lived nearby in the early 1900s.
Wonderful blackberries nearby.
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Aug 25, 2014 10:48:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 10:48:09 GMT -5
I wonder that the gold assay is on that fractured jade?
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Aug 25, 2014 14:27:06 GMT -5
Post by gingerkid on Aug 25, 2014 14:27:06 GMT -5
Your jade is beautiful washingtonrocks and really like the blue-green! It does look similar to the Guatemalan/Olmec jade. Could the gold be pyrite or magnetite?
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 15:19:01 GMT -5
Scott, If it wouldn't bore evrybody, I've got the paperwork for this stuff I could take a picture of and upload. I remember one of these rocks was in the 400's ppm. gingerkid - There's definitely a lot of iron pyrite in these specimens too. Much of what I find has only pyrite and no gold. But I knew these were different right away as soon as I picked them up. There's no mistaking pyrite for gold when you've seen enough of it in hand. Some of the gold flecks have a ring of iron pyrite around them which is pretty cool.
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 15:23:22 GMT -5
Just wanted to add that just the presence and abundance of pyrite alone in some of these jades is pretty unique I think.
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Aug 25, 2014 15:24:36 GMT -5
Post by gingerkid on Aug 25, 2014 15:24:36 GMT -5
Some of the gold flecks have a ring of iron pyrite around them which is pretty cool. Thanks, washingtonrocks! Do you have any closeup shots of the gold flecks surrounded by the rings of pyrite? Found any pretty grossulars lately??
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 15:40:05 GMT -5
gingerkid, If you look at the thin slab in last picture you can see what I mean. That large-ish bleb of gold at the bottom of the picture has a nice big brassy piece of pyrite right next to it. To the top and to the right of the gold. In fact, if you look closely, that last specimen has all kinds of pyrite in it. It's more metallic and brassy. The gold, of course, has that deep rich, well, gold color and luster to it. I'll see if I can't get some better close-ups of what I'm talking about when I get back home to my preciouses.
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 15:41:09 GMT -5
I do have a few new Gross's too, yes.
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Aug 25, 2014 15:59:03 GMT -5
Post by snowmom on Aug 25, 2014 15:59:03 GMT -5
oh man, gotta stop drooling.... that is awesome stuff! I have a picture of jade and jadeite in my mind, only having heard of it and never seen it 'in person' in the rough, and it is not like these specimens. I better change the picture. What wonderful beautiful blue green! I love the grey whites too, again different than I thought they might look.... you say you have been working on finishing these, do you have photos of the rough as it looked when you pulled it out. Jade learner here, and I have yet to find my first confirmed jade, either nephrite or jadeite.. seeing photos of it in the rough helps me picture what to look for in the field. Congratulations on a bunch of fantastic finds... lucky you to be so near such a wealth of beautiful stuff like that!
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Post by jamesp on Aug 25, 2014 16:02:00 GMT -5
Those are all beautiful. The gold must be in the creek too. Have you panned in it ? Or maybe it is dry. Certainly an added bonus to have fine jadeite with gold sealing the fractures. The variety of greens is incredible too.
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Aug 25, 2014 16:55:57 GMT -5
Post by transcendental on Aug 25, 2014 16:55:57 GMT -5
Woah! I can see why it's blowing your mind! Beautiful stuff and amazing to see gold in it. Have you contacted anyone to determine it's value?
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 17:20:20 GMT -5
snowmom, I'll try to get some more pictures of the uncut stuff posted. The thing about the jadeite I'm finding is its not smooth, water-worn cobbles like the Nephrites I find. There's a definite blocky, Pyroxene look to it in rough form which leads me to believe I'm close to the in-situ source. Maybe I'm *at* the source... I'm still trying to figure out the extent of my little "discovery" here. jamesp, It was my search for gold-bearing local creeks that led me to the spot where I found the jade. The stuff I've panned out looks just like the gold in the rocks. Most of it is really fine, almost powder fine, but there's a bunch of it in there. I'd seriously like to get a backhoe and dig for bedrock, but the creek's in the middle of a housing development, so I'm not sure the legality of doing something like that. transcendental, Only the outfit that's given me test results is aware of what I've found, and although he can't put any kind of monetary value on it, he's led me in the direction of somebody he thinks can, so that's pretty exciting.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 25, 2014 17:31:29 GMT -5
That is a nirvana. Right in your backyard. Never heard of covenants and restrictions covering mineral rights. I guess it is assumed. Got a neighbor that has an artesian well that put out high grade water that he was going to bottle as 'designer water'. All the neighbors had a tizzy. Petitioned it to failure. I didn't, my artesian well puts out the same water as his. Was hoping to get in on the action.
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 17:42:31 GMT -5
I usually go to this spot in the early morning hours before there's too much activity to avoid attracting too much attention to myself. Mainly because I don't want anyone to catch onto my little honey-hole find, but also because I'm concerned an over-vigilant neighbor will think I'm up to no good and call the cops. lol. I really don't know what kind of restrictions there may or may not be for mineral collecting on county land that's smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood development. Anybody ever run into trouble doing this?
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Post by washingtonrocks on Aug 25, 2014 17:44:29 GMT -5
Are ya selling *your* water then, james? On the down low, that is? It's ridiculous that somebody has to take into consideration what their neighbors think when it involves personal property...The Homeowner's Association is pretty overzealous here too, hence my apprehension for doing anything too obvious as far as collecting goes.
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Post by transcendental on Aug 25, 2014 18:07:50 GMT -5
I wish you the best in your search for information. I'd be jumping out of my skin lol.
Google mineral rights for your state. It gets tricky out west as most of the state's land isn't actually owned by the state but by blm or forestry service.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 26, 2014 6:13:44 GMT -5
I usually go to this spot in the early morning hours before there's too much activity to avoid attracting too much attention to myself. Mainly because I don't want anyone to catch onto my little honey-hole find, but also because I'm concerned an over-vigilant neighbor will think I'm up to no good and call the cops. lol. I really don't know what kind of restrictions there may or may not be for mineral collecting on county land that's smack dab in the middle of a neighborhood development. Anybody ever run into trouble doing this? You have an interesting situation wr. That is why I asked you about pursuing the gold. There is 2 kinds of collecting-surface collecting and digging/disturbing. I will bet that if you surface collect, no one will ever say a word. The minute you start digging you are open to scrutiny. Probably just that simple. In Georgia, laws are very lax, especially in rock bottom mountain streams where erosion is not hardly an issue. But in the not mountainous areas where stream banks are sensitive the EPA and other jurisdictions will come after you. in Florida, sand banks are delicate w/strict laws against digging in most areas. The problem down there started with artifact, fossil and rock hunters digging into mounds and native encampments, stream banks and sensitive areas. So if you limit yourself to surface collecting you should be harmless and not cause impact. Even Florida is lenient towards surface collecting in the channel, but will nail you for touching the stream banks. But no digging period, anywhere except private land is of course fair game unless digging in most waterways passing thru. Use common sense and don't make a mess and no one should say anything. But some people want to make a stink about anything; they could always cause trouble. I about quit hunting artifacts in Florida years ago to avoid any conflict with hunting coral. They do scrutinize artifacts. And the two do occur together since coral is the main source of artifact manufacture by the natives. Timbering machinery is limited to a 25 foot buffer around any waterway in Georgia. So there is a buffer zone for the sole purpose of protecting the stream banks. And some areas the buffer zone is much larger. But that is the basic philosophy in this area. Washington may have a different attitude, but I doubt it. Stock pile your jade if you think there is a threat.
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