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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 22:49:55 GMT -5
easier to find a white arrow tip in the forest
also easier to assess the damage it caused based on the blood residue on the white background. Plus that sh|t is harder than glass (Mohs 7!).
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2015 0:24:51 GMT -5
easier to find a white arrow tip in the forest also easier to assess the damage it caused based on the blood residue on the white background. Plus that sh|t is harder than glass (Mohs 7!). Toilet ceramic is mohs 7 ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 0:30:35 GMT -5
easier to find a white arrow tip in the forest also easier to assess the damage it caused based on the blood residue on the white background. Plus that sh|t is harder than glass (Mohs 7!). Toilet ceramic is mohs 7 ? I dont know for 100% but porcelain floor tiles are indeed 7+
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2015 0:36:47 GMT -5
Toilet ceramic is mohs 7 ? I dont know for 100% but porcelain floor tiles are indeed 7+ Makes sense. Think it is fired quartz/clay, may have aluminum oxide too.
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Post by Pat on Jan 16, 2015 0:39:16 GMT -5
@shotgunner, jamesp would the porcelain toilet tank top work for cabbing and/or carving? A friend is redoing their bathroom this year….. I'd like to try it. Thanks.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2015 7:24:36 GMT -5
@shotgunner, jamesp would the porcelain toilet tank top work for cabbing and/or carving? A friend is redoing their bathroom this year….. I'd like to try it. Thanks. I believe toilets are about all porcelain Pat. It's usually beige color. Sound right Scott ? it is fine grained, as Scott says, very hard, should be like chert. Kohler's reasons for using porcelain, seems like cheap toilets may be made out of lessor materials: "Porcelain is also a champ at shrugging off water. It may sound simple, but a porous material will allow liquid and bacteria in, so being impervious to both is important in a structure that's main job is to deal with waste. The key to keeping water out is in the porcelain's glaze. After the toilet is coated, it's fired in a kiln. Unlike, say, grout in a shower, which takes on both water and bacteria, the glaze stops bacteria at the toilet's surface. Having all the gross stuff remain on the toilet's surface also makes it easier to clean. (Imagine if cleaning the toilet were any less pleasant.) And every year another wave of aggressive cleaning products claim to do better work on the bowl. In order to ensure that the toilet can withstand the pressure from both abrasion and chemicals, Kohler sends their cans through the equivalent of 20 years of use, or 80,000 scrubs. The testing, Hedlund says, just confirms that people are more likely to upgrade their toilets for water conservation or style reasons than for actual need."
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Post by 1dave on Jan 16, 2015 8:37:33 GMT -5
@shotgunner, jamesp would the porcelain toilet tank top work for cabbing and/or carving? A friend is redoing their bathroom this year….. I'd like to try it. Thanks. I believe toilets are about all porcelain Pat. It's usually beige color. Sound right Scott ? it is fine grained, as Scott says, very hard, should be like chert. Kohler's reasons for using porcelain, seems like cheap toilets may be made out of lessor materials: "Porcelain is also a champ at shrugging off water. It may sound simple, but a porous material will allow liquid and bacteria in, so being impervious to both is important in a structure that's main job is to deal with waste. The key to keeping water out is in the porcelain's glaze. After the toilet is coated, it's fired in a kiln. Unlike, say, grout in a shower, which takes on both water and bacteria, the glaze stops bacteria at the toilet's surface. Having all the gross stuff remain on the toilet's surface also makes it easier to clean. (Imagine if cleaning the toilet were any less pleasant.) And every year another wave of aggressive cleaning products claim to do better work on the bowl. In order to ensure that the toilet can withstand the pressure from both abrasion and chemicals, Kohler sends their cans through the equivalent of 20 years of use, or 80,000 scrubs. The testing, Hedlund says, just confirms that people are more likely to upgrade their toilets for water conservation or style reasons than for actual need."Just a cup full of water makes the waste go down, the waste go down in a most delightful way. NOT!Conservationists killed the Challenger crew by forcing NASA to change their o rings, . . . the list goes on forever on their screw ups! Now we have to hold the handle down and let the water run to get a decent flush, and even then the waste only goes down the line a short distance where it sits and hardens up. Nobody knows the troubles they've caused.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2015 10:46:43 GMT -5
1dave-new clothes washing machines-also low water usage. They are junk and hardly clean your clothes. Using vibratory and mild agitator. Entirely junk. Having to wash clothes twice, lots of ELECTRICITY. Do they know what ELECTRICITY is and what it pollutes to create it ? Old agitator washing machines being phased out, will no longer be made... Anyone out there had to buy one of these pieces of junk ?
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Post by captbob on Jan 16, 2015 11:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 13:30:35 GMT -5
PatIf it can be knapped into arrowheads it will cab
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 13:38:29 GMT -5
I learn a lot from these oddest threads because I know everything else. Jim
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Post by phil on Jan 16, 2015 14:03:58 GMT -5
PatIf it can be knapped into arrowheads it will cab But cabbed and polished, it will look exactly like what it was.... toilet material.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 14:15:01 GMT -5
PatIf it can be knapped into arrowheads it will cab But cabbed and polished, it will look exactly like what it was.... toilet material. Or the purest white porcelain "jasper". Cameo carved it could be spectacular! Whiter, durable, cheaper and more legal than ivory!
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Post by Pat on Jan 16, 2015 14:15:42 GMT -5
Ohhhhh! I"ll forget about it. Thanks!
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2015 14:27:26 GMT -5
Ohhhhh! I"ll forget about it. Thanks! And it may smell.....
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Post by Pat on Jan 16, 2015 14:38:33 GMT -5
On second thought, going to try carving it anyway, but will keep in mind the down sides. If downsides are obvious, I'll toss it. Thanks for all the information!
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Post by Rockoonz on Jan 16, 2015 14:45:47 GMT -5
Conservationists killed the Challenger crew by forcing NASA to change their o rings, . . . the list goes on forever on their screw ups! Sorry, Dave but that's total urban legend... The legend faults the asbestos sealant, not the o-rings. The o-rings were indeed the problem but not due to a change in the material used. www.nbcnews.com/id/11031097/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/myths-about-challenger-shuttle-disaster/#.VLlgitLF_AkThe day the shuttle exploded was 10 days after I started working at the rubber company I still work for today. I already had about 4 years experience in polymers and had worked with fluoropolymers like the viton used for the shuttle o-rings. They were the true culprit of the disaster, not the asbestos sealant. A by product of vulcanizing viton is good old H2O water and it must be removed by a postcuring process that requires a 12 hour stepped cycle. Any exposure to moisture before use like the weather conditions before the launch means the boosters should have been disassembled and the o-rings either replaced with dry ones or the existing o-rings re-postcured (dried) A few years after the disaster I hand built a set of custom viton seals for the leaded observation windows of a nuclear facility of some sort, possibly a particle accelerator that was never completed. I didn't want to end up being connected to another viton related disaster so I spent a lot of time in research before taking the job on.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jan 16, 2015 15:05:52 GMT -5
A thread about Purplepixie morphing into a thread about toilets seems appropriate. orrum may have insight to the lapidary uses of porcelain bowl jasper, he collected some on last years trip to Succor Creek...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 15:20:47 GMT -5
I know that our sewers in chino are having issues because there is not enough water to properly move the waste. The systems were designed with larger volume "flushes" in mind. Less water makes formerly properly engineered systems work poorly. The law of unintended consequences follows most government over-regulation. Hell, now we have mercury in our homes again. We did before but they regulated mercury out of light switches to protect us. Now we have mercury again in the form compact fluorescents to protect the environment, lol BTW if you break one of those CFl's you are supposed to call a hazmat team to come clean it up! Yes! I want one of those in my home! and another----> Who woulda thought Obamacare would reduce full time in employment in this country?? Anybody with a smidgen of common sense.
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