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Post by jamesp on Apr 10, 2015 16:50:09 GMT -5
These are golden club, orontium aquaticum. An arum that grows in water. The seeds are bean sized and germinate easily. These germinated in a tub of clay last year, being divided in mud balls formed from the mud they were grown in. It will grow in water up to 4 feet deep, I collect the seeds from a stand on the property in July.  Molded into the clay and pruned, ready to sprig in pre wetted pots of clay. Or used as yard darts when mitigating wetlands.  Pre filled one gallon pots  close up of roots and a few seeds at clay level  Seed stock plants in the corner of a pond  |
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Post by captbob on Apr 10, 2015 17:29:41 GMT -5
You need a few gators.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 10, 2015 20:09:16 GMT -5
Odd, the moccasin territory ends 10-20 miles from the house and I have never seen one on this property. Down your way they are a dime a dozen. They cause the most problems for people doing this biz in Florida. |
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 10, 2015 20:13:35 GMT -5
Looks like James is going to get very busy for awhile............
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Post by jamesp on Apr 10, 2015 22:12:08 GMT -5
Looks like James is going to get very busy for awhile............ Sleeping good for two months Fossilman. |
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 10, 2015 22:21:15 GMT -5
Odd, the moccasin territory ends 10-20 miles from the house and I have never seen one on this property. Didn't realize this, jamesp. What about copperheads? When I first looked at your photos, the second photo made me think 'onions.'  |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 10, 2015 23:38:18 GMT -5
Odd, the moccasin territory ends 10-20 miles from the house and I have never seen one on this property. Didn't realize this, jamesp. What about copperheads? When I first looked at your photos, the second photo made me think 'onions.' Got copperheads. Seen thousands of water snakes. Maybe one time a moccasin, it had red on it. Which puzzled me, and had a viper head. ?? |
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Post by snowmom on Apr 11, 2015 4:47:48 GMT -5
love the arums, the photos of the seedlings made my transplanting genes itch, want to get in there and replant.
They surely do thrive under your care. beautiful, that last photo of the mass of them ... gives a person ideas.
thanks for the show.
Copperheads and cottonmouths were fairly common in northern IL where I grew up, yeah, viper heads. Caught a baby one once upon a time when hunting garter snakes as a kid. Scary evil tempered Nasty things. Never went snake hunting again. Taught me a bit of respect.
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2015 5:51:24 GMT -5
Another aquatic arum is peltandra virginica snowmom. Some things need to be planted in May and June. Some of those plants are purchased bare root from Wisconson in a dormant state. narrow leaf cattails , nuphar lilies, sago pond weed, peltandra seeds, and a few others. Moccasin territory is hard to explain. thankful it does not include Atlanta. I have disturbed many water snakes and rarely gotten bit. The places I work puts them close to me but even aggressive water snakes just want to get away from you. Close encounters only occur when accidentally moving or lifting something they are hiding in. gingerkid-They are in Lagrange, but not Atlanta. The closest I have seen them is on the Chattahoochee River, just a few miles west of me. I asked the county extension agent about moccasins 25 years ago. He said they are not in south Fulton County except in the river in the SW corner of the county. Sure seems like he was correct, amazing how accurate the boundary for their habitat is defined.  |
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Post by Fossilman on Apr 11, 2015 8:31:15 GMT -5
Water snakes sound about like rattlers.........They would rather get out of the area your in and leave! But get one cornered or surprised,then you pay the "piper"!!!
Seen many rattlers in Montana,while hunting fossils..I go one way,they go the other-LOL.....
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 11, 2015 8:59:48 GMT -5
jamesp, water moccasins probably don't like Atlanta traffic. We've only seen a few water moccasins in LaGrange - mainly around West Point Lake. We have seen more copperheads here. At my mom's house in Cairo, we used to see moccasins (and ED rattlers) quite frequently since there were 3 ponds nearby. I'd rather run into a rattler than a ticked off water moccasin. A rattler will usually give you a fair warning to back off - slowly. Water snakes sound about like rattlers.........They would rather get out of the area your in and leave! But get one cornered or surprised,then you pay the "piper"!!!Seen many rattlers in Montana,while hunting fossils.. I go one way,they go the other-LOL..... ROFL, Fossilman!
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 11, 2015 9:07:01 GMT -5
World's largest cottonmouth???
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Post by jamesp on Apr 11, 2015 9:22:25 GMT -5
gingerkid Florida has too many moccasins, pygmy rattlers too. the pygmy is the dangerous one, testy and fast. bite first, question later. And very common. really do not care for that little snake. That moccasin in the video is a hoss.
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 11, 2015 9:39:57 GMT -5
Have only seen the pygmy rattler in pics, jamesp. It has pretty colors. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 16:10:39 GMT -5
World's largest cottonmouth??? Nothing abnormal about that adult moccasin. Full size female perhaps gravid. But not abnormally large. |
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 11, 2015 16:20:27 GMT -5
Thanks, @shotgunner! I always get a chuckle out of these "largest" this and that videos and photographs.
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 11, 2015 18:42:42 GMT -5
Imagine y'all have seen this one? I posted a pic and post about the gator on the Gemology Online forum a couple of years ago in the forum's General Discussion area. One of the mods/admin deleted it, lol. The gator looks pretty big from the angles the photographs were taken of it. I've read a lot of discussion (and arguments) about where this gator was located, such as Snopes, etc... Here's the link to the FWS of the SE claiming a lady from Georgia, Terri Jenkins, a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service District Fire Management Officer, photographed it and with more pics.  www.fws.gov/southeast/news/2004/r04-073.html |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 12, 2015 3:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by gingerkid on Apr 12, 2015 10:20:32 GMT -5
um, no, jamesp. Maybe Jugglerguy would be interested in your perfect spot for water skiing. barefoot. I read about iant's planned coral collecting trip to the location. |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 12, 2015 13:38:11 GMT -5
um, no, jamesp. Maybe Jugglerguy would be interested in your perfect spot for water skiing. barefoot. I read about iant's planned coral collecting trip to the location. probably prefers Lake Michigan where the crocodillians don't roam. |
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