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Post by jamesp on Jun 14, 2015 6:35:27 GMT -5
Ed would have a "ladies only" massage parlor. Ed being the masseuse.
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Post by mohs on Jun 14, 2015 9:52:25 GMT -5
Well mr. jamespthat a 16th century picture of the Fountain of Youth and that what its going to take to get back to my masseusing days I posted it to show how much innocence as been lost Ponce and his boys use to searched for it now we search for the water to fill the fountain mostly
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Post by captbob on Jun 14, 2015 13:39:25 GMT -5
Vatican Speaker on Climate Thinks There are 6 Billion Too Many of Uswww.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/12/vatican-speaker-on-climate-thinks-there-are-6-billion-too-many-of-us/One of the speakers slated for the Vatican rollout of the long-awaited Papal document on climate change once said the earth is overpopulated by at least 6 billion people.
The teaching document, called an encyclical, is scheduled for release on June 18 at Vatican City. Perhaps with the exception of the 1968 encyclical on contraception, no Vatican document has been greeted with such anticipation.
The political left is hoping for a document that ties belief in global warming to a religious obligation. Climate skeptics have already started criticizing the document.
The choice of Professor John Schnellnhuber, founding director of the Postdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, as one of three presenters may be giving the left added hope and giving giving skeptics severe heartburn. He has been described as one of the more aggressive scientists on the question of man-made global warming.
In a talk given to what’s described as the “failed” 2009 Copenhagen climate conference, reported in the New York Times, Schnellnhuber, who has advised German President Angela Merkel and is a visiting professor at Oxford, said of global warming: “In a very cynical way, it’s a triumph for science because at last we have stabilized something –- namely the estimates for the carrying capacity of the planet, namely below 1 billion people.”
Schnellnhuber is also author of what’s called the “two-degree target” that says governments must not allow the temperature to rise more than 2 degrees higher than at the start of the industrial revolution. Any higher, the theory holds, and much life on earth would either perish or be gravely harmed.
To deal with climate issues, he has also called for an “Earth Constitution that would transcend the UN Charter” along with the creation of a “Global Council…elected by all the people on Earth” and a “Planetary Court..a transnational legal body open to appeals from everybody, especially with respect to violations of the Earth Constitution.”**************************** One of the speakers slated for the Vatican rollout of the long-awaited Papal document on climate change once said the earth is overpopulated by at least 6 billion people.There are now just over 7 billion people on the planet. So 6 in every 7 need to go? That ought to go over well. Aren't Catholics the ones that reproduce like rabbits? (them and the muzzies. Oh yeah, and most everyone else on the planet living in poverty. Seems especially true for those living in desert areas and other locations where trivial necessities such as food and water are in short supply.) The choice of Professor John Schnellnhuber, founding director of the Postdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, as one of three presenters may be giving the left added hope and giving giving skeptics severe heartburn. He has been described as one of the more aggressive scientists on the question of man-made global warming.Who could have seen that coming? In a talk given to what’s described as the “failed” 2009 Copenhagen climate conference, reported in the New York Times, Schnellnhuber, who has advised German President Angela Merkel and is a visiting professor at Oxford, said of global warming: “In a very cynical way, it’s a triumph for science because at last we have stabilized something –- namely the estimates for the carrying capacity of the planet, namely below 1 billion people.”It's a "triumph" to pull some arbitrary number out of his ass hat? Guess ya gotta take your victories where you can find them. I'm sure we can trust his One Billion capacity number just as we can his "global warming" facts. Schnellnhuber is also author of what’s called the “two-degree target” that says governments must not allow the temperature to rise more than 2 degrees higher than at the start of the industrial revolution. Any higher, the theory holds, and much life on earth would either perish or be gravely harmed.Well there ya go! That ought to take care of those pesky extra 6 Billion people on the planet! So, "global warming" is a good thing. It will kill off the humans, then the planet can get back to whatever it does when we aren't around. Problem solved. To deal with climate issues, he has also called for an “Earth Constitution that would transcend the UN Charter” along with the creation of a “Global Council…elected by all the people on Earth” and a “Planetary Court..a transnational legal body open to appeals from everybody, especially with respect to violations of the Earth Constitution.”Speechless... MORE Government & MORE rules. Wonder where he is along the money trail. If 6 Billion need to go, I highly recommend that this moron is at the front of the line. Yeah... The Vatican needs to get involved in the climate change business and provide a stage for the loonies.
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Post by captbob on Jun 14, 2015 16:05:33 GMT -5
Rich Californians balk at limits: ‘We’re not all equal when it comes to water’www.washingtonpost.com/national/rich-californians-youll-have-to-pry-the-hoses-from-our-cold-dead-hands/2015/06/13/fac6f998-0e39-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html?tid=sm_twRANCHO SANTA FE, CALIF. — Drought or no drought, Steve Yuhas resents the idea that it is somehow shameful to be a water hog. If you can pay for it, he argues, you should get your water.
People “should not be forced to live on property with brown lawns, golf on brown courses or apologize for wanting their gardens to be beautiful,” Yuhas fumed recently on social media. “We pay significant property taxes based on where we live,” he added in an interview. “And, no, we’re not all equal when it comes to water.”
Yuhas lives in the ultra-wealthy enclave of Rancho Santa Fe, a bucolic Southern California hamlet of ranches, gated communities and country clubs that guzzles five times more water per capita than the statewide average. In April, after Gov. Jerry Brown (D) called for a 25 percent reduction in water use, consumption in Rancho Santa Fe went up by 9 percent.... So far, the community’s 3,100 residents have not felt the wrath of the water police. Authorities have issued only three citations for violations of a first round of rather mild water restrictions announced last fall. In a place where the median income is $189,000, where PGA legend Phil Mickelson once requested a separate water meter for his chipping greens, where financier Ralph Whitworth last month paid the Rolling Stones $2 million to play at a local bar, the fine, at $100, was less than intimidating.... “I think we’re being overly penalized, and we’re certainly being overly scrutinized by the world,” said Gay Butler, an interior designer out for a trail ride on her show horse, Bear. She said her water bill averages about $800 a month. “It angers me because people aren’t looking at the overall picture,” Butler said. “What are we supposed to do, just have dirt around our house on four acres?”*********************** Wonder if she has seen any of the farms in California that are simply dirt now because there is no water for the farmers to plant and raise crops. Screw the farmers, screw those less affluent. "If you can pay for it, you should get your water." "we’re not all equal when it comes to water."This is not a rant against the rich having nice things. If you earned the money, buy what you want and have a nice life. If there are no rules or restrictions on water usage, use all you care to pay for. Posted this about the "rules don't apply to me" attitudes. oh yeah... SAVE THE DELTA SMELT
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 14, 2015 16:51:48 GMT -5
Had constructed a wonderful post a couple days ago, with links and everything, but it was lost and eaten by the BLUE BEAR. Arrrrgggg!!!!
Anyway, we are currently experiencing in San Diego an inundation of tuna crabs, washing up on the beaches. This is usually associated with warmer water temps. Have also been seeing more tropical (read: warm water) fish in the last month or two. Warmer water at this time of year is indicative of an oncoming El Nino. Yes, that is what they are predicting now.
I think in the next few months, we will be experiencing the leftovers of hurricanes (two already this year in the eastern Pacific). I recall several of these (tropical storms by the time they arrived) in years past. Each has dumped massive quantities of rain on us, wiping out interstate freeways (one half of I-8 in Sept 1976, thanks to TS Kathleen), devastating the town Of Ocotillo (6 people drowned in the flash floods), and wiping out the railroad line there. Took over a year to fix the freeway (was still one way traffic when I returned from AL in July 1977), and the railroad was eventually abandoned, never fixed.
The drought will be over within a year, I am expecting a bunch of tropical storms to dump MUCH rain on SoCal in the coming months. Homeowners, anticipate this and get your roofs fixed! Mark my words.
Cyclical?? Yeah, I'd say so. Hot, cold. Dry, wet. I think this has been going on much longer than man has been a force on this planet! I cannot for the life of me understand why humans think they can influence what God has set into motion...
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Post by jamesp on Jun 14, 2015 22:13:54 GMT -5
The rich folks kept using water and paying the fines during the Atlanta drought captbob. It was a show of 'look at me, I can continue to water and pay fines'. MY LAWN is green, and yours is brown. Look at me !! Look at me !! Maybe next time felony charges will change their cavalier attitude about breaking the rules. Suspicions of municipalities taking advantage of the added income from the steep fines, behooving the municipalities. Well into the drought some jurisdictions were creating 'tell on your neighbor' situations, I believe rewards were offered for ratting out those breaking the rules.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 14, 2015 23:51:26 GMT -5
Cyclical?? Yeah, I'd say so. Hot, cold. Dry, wet. I think this has been going on much longer than man has been a force on this planet! I cannot for the life of me understand why humans think they can influence what God has set into motion... It never ceases to amaze me the arrogance of the elite oligarchy. We are so powerful that by producing like 0.01% of the total greenhouse gasses released we can change the climate significantly, but so stupidly weak that we need a nanny government to take control of every thing we do, and so potentially evil that said govt. needs to monitor our every movement and communication. When I was a child I remember learning that the government was us, and the people we sent to state houses and Washington DC to represent us simply were there to SERVE us by removing obstacles to we the people living our lives as we chose to. Now we hear them called leaders, which must make us subjects in their minds. I truly believe that the atrocious acts we see people do to each other on a daily basis have their roots in the trickle down narcissism coming from the highest levels of government, in a society where the individual is no longer assigned a sense of worth and value.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 4:11:24 GMT -5
Wildlife and cultivation and everything is effected. Mass die offs of fish worry me. Of course the only solution would be to pump in water from the ocean or other areas. I have gained interest in the Salton Sea, and it's the biggest lake or man-made lake in California. If it goes, southern Cali goes. And my ex lives right by it. There are many pictures online and videos that make you wonder how low America has got. I feel sorry for those that live in the desert. Salton Sea is a foregone conclusion. Isreal seems OK despite the dead Sea. What does it mean southern California goes?
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 15, 2015 7:38:04 GMT -5
I found a very good Vid that defines the differences between "Climate change" and "Global warming" Enjoy. My take on this whole co2 controversy, let it rise seems to be just a step in the staircase. I cant find any harm in it? gingerkid brought something to my attention I forgot of, myself I would be a little more worried of the manmade crap there releasing into the atmosphere to control ozone and UV to influence the magnetosphere. This stuff seems to get tucked under the carpet these days as well as the suns influence like jamesp brought up. Something for you to ponder on instead of co2. I think they all work for Al Gore enterprises? lol Geoengineering proposals essentially aim to intervene in the climate system by deliberately modifying the earth's energy balance to reduce increases of temperature. Methods are diverse and vary greatly in their technological characteristics and possible consequences but fall essentially under two major groups: carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM). SRM methods, perhaps the more controversial class of geoengineering techniques, aim to offset greenhouse warming by reducing the incidence and absorption of incoming solar radiation. "Solar radiation management methods propose to do this by making the earth more reflective, that is by increasing the planetary albedo, or by otherwise diverting incoming solar radiation. This provides a cooling affect to counteract the warming influence of increasing greenhouse gases," explains 'Geoengineering the Climate' a publication by The Royal Society of the United Kingdom which has significantly influenced discussions on the issue in recent times. The most prominent proposed SRM technique is stratospheric aerosol injection. www.srmgi.org/envisionation.co.uk/index.php/blogs/nick-breeze-blogs/117-solar-ra%20diation-management-science-cambridge-2015-srms15www.irgc.org/IMG/pdf/SRM_Opinion_Piece_web.pdfBig swing in differences! This one says its happening faster then warming?
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Post by rockpickerforever on Jun 15, 2015 16:37:14 GMT -5
The rich folks kept using water and paying the fines during the Atlanta drought captbob. It was a show of 'look at me, I can continue to water and pay fines'. MY LAWN is green, and yours is brown. Look at me !! Look at me !! Maybe next time felony charges will change their cavalier attitude about breaking the rules. Suspicions of municipalities taking advantage of the added income from the steep fines, behooving the municipalities. Well into the drought some jurisdictions were creating 'tell on your neighbor' situations, I believe rewards were offered for ratting out those breaking the rules. It's definitely happening here, James. Video shaming of water wasters. Search on YouTube for "drought shaming."
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Post by mohs on Jun 15, 2015 16:51:59 GMT -5
we could say there is no drought of rich folk but the poor are overflowing the banks
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Post by jamesp on Jun 15, 2015 18:02:29 GMT -5
Yep. Better if govt prosecutes rockpickerforever. A simple felon charge. Drought is a situation appropriate for law enforcement to get involved. Rich folks don't pay attention to fines; but a little visit to the jail or criminal record will tame them every time.
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Post by parfive on Jun 15, 2015 20:13:12 GMT -5
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Post by spiritstone on Jun 15, 2015 20:54:43 GMT -5
Noticed Rich and monitoring. Levels are all below average flows for this time of year. Lawn dried up and needs to be painted green now. Most years this doesnt happen until aug when the growing season starts to slow. At least I dont have to cut it. To early to tell if this is something to do with climate change. Just started this winter with more rainfall events then we had snow events.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 15, 2015 21:33:31 GMT -5
We never water our grass. It dries out and pretty much quits growing most summers, always has. Saves mower gas and water, and I get to keep playing with rocks instead of mowing.
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Post by mohs on Jun 15, 2015 21:52:12 GMT -5
I prepared for the drought my lawn is rocks
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 15, 2015 22:29:20 GMT -5
Noticed Rich and monitoring. Levels are all below average flows for this time of year. Lawn dried up and needs to be painted green now.Most years this doesnt happen until aug when the growing season starts to slow. At least I dont have to cut it. To early to tell if this is something to do with climate change. Just started this winter with more rainfall events then we had snow events. Not much rain here this spring either. I think I could count the drops on two hands and not use my thumbs. I killed a 3rd of my backyard and planted Eco-Lawn. To try it out. So far I'm liking it. I did pick a bad year to grow fresh grass, watering it everyday to save my investment. If its what it says it is. I think its worth it. Would be nice not to have to water and cut the grass weekly. What makes Eco-Lawn drought tolerant? Eco-Lawn is drought tolerant for two reasons. First, it produces grass blades that are very thin. Typical lawn grass varieties have thick, succulent blades that require a great deal of water to maintain structure and health. The thin blades of Eco-Lawn are less susceptible to extreme dryness. Eco-Lawn also creates an exceptionally deep root system. Most lawns create root systems that are only a few inches in depth which, in turn, require frequent watering. The deep roots of an established Eco-Lawn will penetrate up to 9 inches in hard pan clay and 14 inches deep in sandy soils and can naturally source moisture from the ground throughout the growing season. www.wildflowerfarm.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=20_72Lots of drought resistant plants on this site.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 16, 2015 7:03:17 GMT -5
Jet stream patterns killing Texas. A large high pressure system has been stalled over Georgia/SE. Forces moisture to swing northward out of gulf and hammer Texas. Common on/off pattern in recent 15 years. Keeping SE US dry and Texas/Louisiana soaked. Texas dry for 4-5 years during the 15 years and moisture hit SE. The stalled high pressure system over the SE routes hurricanes into Louisiana and Texas from and across the moisture producing Gulf of Mexico.
Plenty of overall moisture. Problem is jet stream path staying in long term paths. Drought in one area and flooding in others, over long periods. Overall national precipitation not so much a problem. Nino/Nina impacts? Most rainfall in 21 years for Texas May, qualified as a 100 year rain event.
Not sure about jet stream dynamics in SW US. But guessing similar issues occur there too.
Anyway, jet stream patterns have been responsible for GA/AL/SC/TN droughts over the past 15 years.
The 4 year drought in Texas killed whole stands of Live Oaks that were 100-200 years old. Live Oaks not easy to kill. One of the most resilient trees.
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Post by snuffy on Jun 16, 2015 9:00:26 GMT -5
Yep,we gonna get a few clearup showers out of tropical storm Bill today and tomorrow,we are on the eastern side of the storm.Got almost 2 inches a couple days ago,and maybe 4,6,or who knows in the next 24 hours.Watered my garden once in our 14 day drought we had after our heavy rains ended 2 weeks ago.Wont have to water again for a while.41 years of gardening,wettest its been.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 16, 2015 9:18:53 GMT -5
Yep,we gonna get a few clearup showers out of tropical storm Bill today and tomorrow,we are on the eastern side of the storm.Got almost 2 inches a couple days ago,and maybe 4,6,or who knows in the next 24 hours.Watered my garden once in our 14 day drought we had after our heavy rains ended 2 weeks ago.Wont have to water again for a while.41 years of gardening,wettest its been. snuffy Same hurricane situation did landfall a few years back and dropped 17 inches in less than a day in the next county. it was a 500 year rain event. Me and buddy kayaked down the Dog River after it settled down. Saw three cars 40 feet up in the trees. I don't think they had even recovered the bodies in them at this point. All the bark was removed 40 feet up the trees facing upstream. Took out 4 DOT bridges. Should have bought the camera. Sharp turns in the river had no trees 150 feet up the slopes where the water ramped up the hillsides. Rich forest bottom stripped clean, never seen anything like that river channel. I would think those fine Texas agates and pet woods will be shinning. As long as the big high pressure stays centered over Georgia this trend will probably continue snuffy. Looks like it has set in for the next two weeks. Have seen it set in all summer. Been dry here.
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