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Post by bushmanbilly on May 12, 2015 12:40:24 GMT -5
Good post Jim. I have the top of the line respect for the way you live and think. More should take up your habits. The answer is simple. Everyone wants to own boardwalk. The town I live in is a great example of this. Our town is one of the richest communities per population in Sask. New comers have a hard time getting started here. If a person has a new idea and is making money. Its not long before the rich poke their noses in and try to take control and run them out of business. And I'm sure its the same all over.I blame it mostly on TV programs. It seams that if your a cut throat and will stop a nothing (legal or not) to get the prize. They are deemed a hero. Case in point. Harry Reed and the Romney tax scam he created. A total lie that worked. Hate to bring politics back into it. But was the best example I could think of.
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Post by jamesp on May 12, 2015 13:05:03 GMT -5
Just a simple person @wampidy Jim. And thank you. Greed inherent in all humans. In some form or another. Numbers and quantities damn sure don't lie. Interesting discussion about Mead and rising sea level. Just two numerical values, one slowly rising and one slowly falling. Both a big concern.
I was a member of labor unions, after college I supervised them. Became self-employed about 5 years before my hi tech industry got sold overseas. Seen the damage done from that sell off, about 15 years ago. It hurt to see the special skills of the long term employees thrown away. And the specifically trained management cast to the street. Both kinda wondering lost.
Battle between unions and corporations, it was bad stuff. Both to blame. No one gave in, middle ground was not good enough for either. Became a battle of agenda, greed and pride. No one considered the numbers. Or told the truth about them. Owners said screw em all, sell the thing. The two owners made out well. And they were patient for many years. Great people the owners.
I guess there was no China to sell to in the old days. It brought a twist to the table for sure.
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Post by parfive on May 14, 2015 1:11:12 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2015 5:56:24 GMT -5
Thick hair for Florida 10-20 thousand years ago The Pleistocene Epoch (2.6 mya – 10,000 years ago), also known as the Ice Age, was a time of extreme climate and sea-level change. Sea levels were as much as 300 feet lower and as much as 100 feet higher than today. As the giant continental glaciers advanced and retreated, sea-levels responded by falling and rising. During warm, interglacial periods, sea levels were sufficiently high to allow marine limestones to accumulate. During glacial periods, sea levels were much lower and erosion and dissolution of limestone occurred. Giant ice-age mammals roamed Florida at this time and included some of the largest land mammals to have ever existed. Some of these animals include mammoths, mastodons, giant lions, Dire wolves, saber-tooth cats, giant sloths and giant beavers. At the end of the Pleistocene another animal arrived in Florida – man. This also coincided with the demise of the giant ice-age mammals. Many large mammals went extinct at the end of the Pleistocene either as the result of climate change, human hunting or a combination of both.
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Post by vegasjames on May 14, 2015 6:35:27 GMT -5
Isn't it possible that the reason Florida was so cold 10,000-20,000 years ago due to a pole shift since pole shifts of the Earth have occurred numerous times? The current North and South Poles were not always the Earth's North and South Poles.
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Post by jamesp on May 14, 2015 7:40:59 GMT -5
Isn't it possible that the reason Florida was so cold 10,000-20,000 years ago due to a pole shift since pole shifts of the Earth have occurred numerous times? The current North and South Poles were not always the Earth's North and South Poles. No telling. See lots of theories on reasons for change. Pole shift close to the top of the list. It is interesting to find ice age mammal bones that man has modified and since mineralized(by apatite). Early man wrestled with those mastodons. They are sure of that. Does establish some time lines. Volcanic ash can change climate, I suppose comet strikes, fault shifts or other stimulus that cause pole shifts. Climate sure did change though. Always was surprised how recent the last ice age was. Mammal remnants very common in Florida. Especially the Peace River. Where the state allows the public to sift in the river. Yes, the state allows such.
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Post by Fossilman on May 14, 2015 10:34:12 GMT -5
In reality we are still in the tail end of the "Ice Age"!!! I have read theories and facts on the subject...I know the earth has cycles it goes through every few millions of years and we happen to be living in one of those cycles of change.. Yes,I do think man is taking away some of the earth in greed! Take take take,never give! The people at the top are the worse,filling their pockets up with money! I grew up poor,but have always lived with a few bucks in my pocket...But would give it away and share if I seen it needed to be that way! I raised three families in my short life,always made sure a roof was over their head,food on the table and happy kids... I have never been money hungry,could have been,while in the oilfields,but choose to be a guy that just did his 40 hours and go home to be with my family! I was homeless twice,hitch hiked the United States at 15 years old-that's when my eyes opened on greed and seen the raping of our land and government! Joined the Army at 17,and seen what the government was really about,left that scene in a hurry,did my time and got the hell out... In my 60 years,I have held down three good jobs,never wanting anything more,nothing less either,just enough to keep me above water (so to speak).. My life in the last ten years have been blessed and I will continue to help people when I can,give anything to anyone when I know they need it too......... I have seen that with a few people on here with their sincerer gratitude and thoughtfulness... Maybe we should start running this land as we see it should be ran............ I see and hear that California is letting another bottling Company come it and letting them have free range on water-How the hell can they even phantom a notion like that?! GREED and money,plain and simple-while the common folks suffer! It's a hateful greedy world anymore,I'm glad I'm on the latter part of it... I can and will survive by any means possible....Not to shake anyone's tree,but I would stand by and lock and load with James,Don and Jim anytime,if it came to that!! As I see it,they too,know where I'm coming from!! There is an old saying "Brothers Forever",you don't have to know someone personally to be friends,you know their attitude and respect it!! I sometimes wonder what my grandkids and the after greats too,what kind of world they will be living in.Can't worry about it,worry is fear!! I think that is why every generation grows up different,learning younger and younger about doing things in the now world! Survival! Plain and simple! Some will be of greed,some will just survive! Hell I see it in our family on both sides..Sad! Hey,but life goes on,no worries,no fear,no guilt-just just thoughts,ideas and sharing... That's the best we all can do..............
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 11:39:31 GMT -5
I probably lied by omission. Back in the day I had a new pickup every year or two because I wanted it, not because I needed it, several decent houses depending on which ex I was with, ate at all the best restaurants and lived life half way up the hog. I have always recycled though, even way back when people first started recycling.
Didn't really see the light until after I spent ten months in China and saw first hand a very large number of people scratching their way to the top. People there were totally amazed when I gave something away just to be nice. They give NOTHING away probably because they have had to scratch for everything they have.
I was on my scooter at a stop light and there was a woman trying to keep several boards on her scooter with a rope. I unhooked a bungy strap from my scooter (ya gotta know that I had been hauling stuff) and handed it to her. She was so shocked she did not know what to do. The light turned green and she was still standing there looking at me when I pulled away. They do not understand the concept of giving except for at new years they give envelopes with a little money in them to friends but only because it will bring them luck. The friend will reciprocate so the only thing they are out is the cost of the pretty little envelope.
I think the younger college age kids are starting to change all that. The ones I got acquainted with were giving to me even though they had nothing extra. Jim
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Post by jakesrocks on May 14, 2015 12:03:56 GMT -5
Yup, it's all about greed these days.
Back in 85 and half of 86 I lived out of the back of a van, due to a bad divorce that left me with the old van, a sleeping bag and a few changes of clothes. Because there were 2 kids to feed & clothe, the ex got my entire Navy retirement check. I worked any crappy job I could find, and saved every penny that I could. At night after work I went out and collected aluminum cans to recycle. My present wife and I got married on the money made from those cans. Between us we didn't have a pot to piss in. We both worked hard. Took handouts from nobody, and look at us now. A nice house on 8 acres of ground, 3 cars, my wife has her own sewing room full of machines, and I have an almost complete lapidary shop & over a ton of rocks to play with. With the exception of my wifes car, we owe nobody. We have everything we need to be happy,plus. And we have our pride because we didn't go looking for handouts from people who weren't too lazy to work.
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Post by Fossilman on May 14, 2015 12:15:20 GMT -5
Two thumbs up Don.....
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Post by parfive on May 14, 2015 23:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on May 15, 2015 5:25:20 GMT -5
Never met many people brought up by the school of hard knocks that I could not get along with. Never met many people that it was immediately apparent they came from the school of hard knocks. Never really got along with anyone that was not from the school of hard knocks.
Always liked them. Always worked well with them. Always partied hardy with them. Always partnered with them. And made damn sure I married one.
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Post by jamesp on May 15, 2015 5:55:02 GMT -5
If it were not for the massive Ocala Aquifer, Florida's goose would be cooked. Almost any well drilled along the mighty low lying St. John's river 150-200 feet deep yields a free flowing well. 4 inch wells yield 100 GPM, 6 inch wells yield 400 GPM, 16 inch wells yield incredible flows at river elevation, no pump needed. Most of the ground water is at 12 PSI at ground level once bed rock limestone caves are punctured by a sealed well casing. The Caribbean is not so fortunate. Their aquifers much smaller and much more susceptible to salt water intrusion. Even with the Ocala Aquifer salt water intrusion is becoming worse. Many golf courses close to the ocean have been lost to salt laden irrigation water; they were one of the first to face this issue because of their heavy water usage. Salt friendly grass had become a big research issue 20 years ago due to salt intrusion.
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Post by jamesp on May 15, 2015 6:30:17 GMT -5
Neighbor's free flowing 6 inch well necked down to 4 inches spitting about 200 gallons per minute. Canal water crystal clear due to dozens of wells running. Canal connected to St. John's River. His action is illegal but not strictly enforced. But salinity is rising in our wells here in central Florida. Salt water fish, crabs and shrimp now migrating further upstream. Largemouth bass and redfish caught on plastic worms. Tarpon and largemouth on same lure. Mullet, stingray, croakers, jack, flounder all out in the river. 125 miles upstream from ocean outlet. jamesp with 4 pound mullet hooked, like hooking a torpedo. Classic white trash fish. Caught on bread balls.
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Post by Fossilman on May 15, 2015 9:24:59 GMT -5
Nice! I love fishing-doesn't matter if it's trash fish or not!!
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Post by jamesp on May 16, 2015 4:42:22 GMT -5
Nice! I love fishing-doesn't matter if it's trash fish or not!! Mullet often frowned upon. Not at this river, they smoke them fresh and they taste fine. But you can't freeze them, it pulps the meat. Lake is sand bottom so mullet not so muddy.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 7:37:02 GMT -5
Looks like the carp family. Another poo white trash fish but I have heard it is a poor man's salmon when canned. And super fun to catch because they are very strong swimmers too. Jim
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Post by jamesp on May 16, 2015 8:38:13 GMT -5
Looks like the carp family. Another poo white trash fish but I have heard it is a poor man's salmon when canned. And super fun to catch because they are very strong swimmers too. Jim Darn mullet are always running like a race horse. Eat a lot of vegetable matter, fit as a fiddle. Can be caught by 'mullet jumping'. Old timer trick to filling a boat. Coast boat in a shoal where they are running at night. Hold a Q-Beam to the water, click it on and protect yourself. Every mullet for 20 foot radius will blast off out of the water and many will land in the boat. 0-60 in 1 second. Advisable to wear a helmet with facial protection. A cup too. It is legal, mullet have no harvest limits. Here is small mullet being chased by snook(and maybe tarpon). the guy kooks like he hooked a snook.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 11:02:43 GMT -5
Thanks for that. hahaha So crazy I had to watch a second one but the guy never did catch a tarpon even though he was seeing 50 to 100 of them around the boat chasing the little fish. Jim
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Post by jamesp on May 17, 2015 5:20:51 GMT -5
Thanks for that. hahaha So crazy I had to watch a second one but the guy never did catch a tarpon even though he was seeing 50 to 100 of them around the boat chasing the little fish. Jim Tarpon is a handful once hooked. Another in the tarpon family but much smaller is the ladyfish. 2-4 pounds, they can break 15 pound line, spend more time out of the water than in the water. Has to be the best fighter pound for pound.
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