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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 25, 2017 10:28:22 GMT -5
Sorry Jim Bad for hijack... A social network that works because people are human. Need to raise our rent big guy.. The forum sure can be a warm and fun place and we can also do lots of rocks. Nice mixing it up. Maybe find you a set of fishnets.. Look around in your glove box...grin..
Apologizing to the wrong person. Please delete that comment lol. Hijacks welcome. Do you think this thread has 10,000 visits because of my ugly fire pits, NOT. Yeah Heard they were here for the phallic squash. That's why the farmers market tomorrow. Gotta get in the game.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 25, 2017 10:32:21 GMT -5
Real estate agent just picked one up. Sold a big one to Carlos in Livingston, CA this morning.
Three sitting out there for Fed Ex ground to p/u. Fed Ex Ground is cheapest if package is under 150 pounds.
Nothing heavier than a 150 pound fire pit with a cover on it wrapped in shrink wrap.
They use my battery powered lift to set them in their trucks. Saves them sending a helper.
I have scheduled p/u's and they show up w/one man. 150 pounds a bit much for one man. schedule states it's 150 pounds, they know it before getting here.
Gonna drop a nut.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 25, 2017 10:33:39 GMT -5
Not sure about Mike, believe Bob's the man.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 25, 2017 10:40:49 GMT -5
Not sure about Mike, believe Bob's the man. Yeah They're both bad. Not like us huh. A Suthin gentleman and a easy going cowboy.. |
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Post by melhill1659 on Aug 25, 2017 10:56:19 GMT -5
That's me Jim 😇
I've been called much worse Cliff 😂
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Post by jamesp on Aug 25, 2017 11:06:38 GMT -5
That's me Jim 😇 I've been called much worse Cliff 😂 "That's me".... Which one is you Melissa ? We have mentioned crowd pleasers, half pints, hot legs, phallic squash and perhaps most frightening "friendly cowboy". Beware of the friendly cowboy. |
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Post by captbob on Aug 25, 2017 11:26:08 GMT -5
HEY!Ve vill half NO pattering here! Is verboten ja. <- my worst German accent aww... what the heck - patter away! But no blathering. I've had my up to here share in the Politics area. 
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2017 13:32:42 GMT -5
Ya! Blathering!
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 25, 2017 13:46:53 GMT -5
That's me Jim 😇 I've been called much worse Cliff 😂 "That's me".... Which one is you Melissa ? We have mentioned crowd pleasers, half pints, hot legs, phallic squash and perhaps most frightening "friendly cowboy". Beware of the friendly cowboy. Easy going cowboy .. Not a little bit friendly cracker.. hehehehe adding cracker to list....
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 25, 2017 13:48:03 GMT -5
HEY!Ve vill half NO pattering here! Is verboten ja. <- my worst German accent aww... what the heck - patter away! But no blathering. I've had my up to here share in the Politics area. Yep stay away from the politics arena. Don't want to go back to prison. grin.. |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 29, 2017 13:57:16 GMT -5
"That's me".... Which one is you Melissa ? We have mentioned crowd pleasers, half pints, hot legs, phallic squash and perhaps most frightening "friendly cowboy". Beware of the friendly cowboy. Easy going cowboy .. Not a little bit friendly cracker.. hehehehe adding cracker to list....
Ah, cracker is a compliment. That term has history. Originates from the cowman's 'crack' of a whip. 'Cowboys' was used in the western sense of the term, us Georgians and Floridians had the cattle ranches in new America. These crackers could not lasso a 6 inch stump from 2 feet away. What they could do was wrap a bull whip around the opposite front leg of a cow and jerk the cow on his side by wrapping handle end of whip on the saddle horn. Smaller cows, called scrub cows. Reason for the whip take down was limbs. If you lassoed the cow he'd likely pull you into trees and you'd get clotheslined by low limbs. Or dragged into the prickly palmettos. Dogs were involved too. Probably not in a humane sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker"Cracker Cowmen[edit] A cracker cowboy artist: Frederick Remington In Florida, those who own or work cattle traditionally have been called cowmen. In the late 1800s, they were often called cow hunters, a reference to hunting for cattle scattered over the wooded rangelands during roundups. At times the terms cowman and Cracker have been used interchangeably because of similarities in their folk culture. Today the western term "cowboy" is often used for those who work cattle.[3] The Florida "cowhunter" or "cracker cowboy" of the 19th and early 20th centuries was distinct from the Spanish vaquero and the Western cowboy. Florida cowboys did not use lassos to herd or capture cattle. Their primary tools were cow whips and dogs. Florida cattle and horses were smaller than the western breeds. The "cracker cow", also known as the "native" or "scrub" cow, averaged about 600 pounds (270 kg) and had large horns and large feet.[4]" |
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Post by quartz on Aug 29, 2017 22:37:20 GMT -5
Interesting to see the real meaning of "Georgia Cracker". Friend in Viet Nam was from Atlanta, everyone called him the Georgia Cracker; he ran the non-destructive test shop, the "crack shop".
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Post by jamesp on Aug 30, 2017 5:23:37 GMT -5
Interesting to see the real meaning of "Georgia Cracker". Friend in Viet Nam was from Atlanta, everyone called him the Georgia Cracker; he ran the non-destructive test shop, the "crack shop". Glad you had the rich cracker cultural experience Larry. May the cracker in you live on |
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 30, 2017 18:15:06 GMT -5
Easy going cowboy .. Not a little bit friendly cracker.. hehehehe adding cracker to list....
Ah, cracker is a compliment. That term has history. Originates from the cowman's 'crack' of a whip. 'Cowboys' was used in the western sense of the term, us Georgians and Floridians had the cattle ranches in new America. These crackers could not lasso a 6 inch stump from 2 feet away. What they could do was wrap a bull whip around the opposite front leg of a cow and jerk the cow on his side by wrapping handle end of whip on the saddle horn. Smaller cows, called scrub cows. Reason for the whip take down was limbs. If you lassoed the cow he'd likely pull you into trees and you'd get clotheslined by low limbs. Or dragged into the prickly palmettos. Dogs were involved too. Probably not in a humane sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker"Cracker Cowmen[edit] A cracker cowboy artist: Frederick Remington In Florida, those who own or work cattle traditionally have been called cowmen. In the late 1800s, they were often called cow hunters, a reference to hunting for cattle scattered over the wooded rangelands during roundups. At times the terms cowman and Cracker have been used interchangeably because of similarities in their folk culture. Today the western term "cowboy" is often used for those who work cattle.[3] The Florida "cowhunter" or "cracker cowboy" of the 19th and early 20th centuries was distinct from the Spanish vaquero and the Western cowboy. Florida cowboys did not use lassos to herd or capture cattle. Their primary tools were cow whips and dogs. Florida cattle and horses were smaller than the western breeds. The "cracker cow", also known as the "native" or "scrub" cow, averaged about 600 pounds (270 kg) and had large horns and large feet.[4]" Cracker is a southern term that is for sure a good thing. Keeps the world fun to have our history being remembered. Short cows? 2nd time in two days I heard that. Been really busy on real estate the last few days.Been realy good but the closing I had yesterday on a 7 plus acre horse was going to be used for short cows. Apparently everyone in the family is raising the tasty little morsels. Prefer the miniature donkeys the best. Reminds me of my baby pictures. Never quite understood the use of whips for cattle even being ranch raised. Maybe the stockyards of Abilene and other shipping terminals of western and southern beef back in the day used bull whips for more than oxen teams. Prehot shot, electro prods. Glad not to be a cow.. dated a few.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 30, 2017 18:56:50 GMT -5
Ah, cracker is a compliment. That term has history. Originates from the cowman's 'crack' of a whip. 'Cowboys' was used in the western sense of the term, us Georgians and Floridians had the cattle ranches in new America. These crackers could not lasso a 6 inch stump from 2 feet away. What they could do was wrap a bull whip around the opposite front leg of a cow and jerk the cow on his side by wrapping handle end of whip on the saddle horn. Smaller cows, called scrub cows. Reason for the whip take down was limbs. If you lassoed the cow he'd likely pull you into trees and you'd get clotheslined by low limbs. Or dragged into the prickly palmettos. Dogs were involved too. Probably not in a humane sense. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker"Cracker Cowmen[edit] A cracker cowboy artist: Frederick Remington In Florida, those who own or work cattle traditionally have been called cowmen. In the late 1800s, they were often called cow hunters, a reference to hunting for cattle scattered over the wooded rangelands during roundups. At times the terms cowman and Cracker have been used interchangeably because of similarities in their folk culture. Today the western term "cowboy" is often used for those who work cattle.[3] The Florida "cowhunter" or "cracker cowboy" of the 19th and early 20th centuries was distinct from the Spanish vaquero and the Western cowboy. Florida cowboys did not use lassos to herd or capture cattle. Their primary tools were cow whips and dogs. Florida cattle and horses were smaller than the western breeds. The "cracker cow", also known as the "native" or "scrub" cow, averaged about 600 pounds (270 kg) and had large horns and large feet.[4]" Cracker is a southern term that is for sure a good thing. Keeps the world fun to have our history being remembered. Short cows? 2nd time in two days I heard that. Been really busy on real estate the last few days.Been realy good but the closing I had yesterday on a 7 plus acre horse was going to be used for short cows. Apparently everyone in the family is raising the tasty little morsels. Prefer the miniature donkeys the best. Reminds me of my baby pictures. Never quite understood the use of whips for cattle even being ranch raised. Maybe the stockyards of Abilene and other shipping terminals of western and southern beef back in the day used bull whips for more than oxen teams. Prehot shot, electro prods. Glad not to be a cow.. dated a few.
Not agreeing with cow abuse, any animal abuse for that matter. Including short cows. But that's the way they did it. I bought a property in Florida from a man that would be over 100 years old today. His job in the summer as a 12-16 year old was to drive cattle out of the scrub of central Florida to the coast. He was a real man. At that age being alone for the most part in the Florida outback for 10-12 weeks. Interesting fellow, had a PHD in science, paratrooper, could hike you into the dirt at 85 years old. Are you selling or buying ? I just got a contract on my last Florida property. Bought at prime price 2008. Lol, selling it with a 100K loss, oh well. Sold it cheap to use the loss against the gain. Tax strategy. Anyway, am getting rid of responsibilities. 60 years old, time to kick back. I have been selling all Florida stuff off, 3rd closing this year. No more left. 2 at a loss and one at a big gain, |
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 30, 2017 19:13:10 GMT -5
Cracker is a southern term that is for sure a good thing. Keeps the world fun to have our history being remembered. Short cows? 2nd time in two days I heard that. Been really busy on real estate the last few days.Been realy good but the closing I had yesterday on a 7 plus acre horse was going to be used for short cows. Apparently everyone in the family is raising the tasty little morsels. Prefer the miniature donkeys the best. Reminds me of my baby pictures. Never quite understood the use of whips for cattle even being ranch raised. Maybe the stockyards of Abilene and other shipping terminals of western and southern beef back in the day used bull whips for more than oxen teams. Prehot shot, electro prods. Glad not to be a cow.. dated a few.
Not agreeing with cow abuse, any animal abuse for that matter. Including short cows. But that's the way they did it. I bought a property in Florida from a man that would be over 100 years old today. His job in the summer as a 12-16 year old was to drive cattle out of the scrub of central Florida to the coast. He was a real man. At that age being alone for the most part in the Florida outback for 10-12 weeks. Interesting fellow, had a PHD in science, paratrooper, could hike you into the dirt at 85 years old. Are you selling or buying ? I just got a contract on my last Florida property. Bought at prime price 2008. Lol, selling it with a 100K loss, oh well. Sold it cheap to use the loss against the gain. Tax strategy. Anyway, am getting rid of responsibilities. 60 years old, time to kick back. I have been selling all Florida stuff off, 3rd closing this year. No more left. 2 at a loss and one at a big gain, Selling... Yeah really busy the last couple days with the fall rush 3 more to sell. Seriously doubt if it makes sense to buy vs. renting. Rent a house in a great place, live in it during the good season and then move to another neat place the following season. Reasonable to rent for the year and let the house sit empty for the 6 months or what ever time you don't want to be there or would rather be somewhere else. Been lucky, do my homework and not as greedy as some folks who put their money into properties without knowing anything about it. Never would cinsider commercial at all. Residential in a subdivision doesn't do much for me but a small acreage that's the place to own. Get the land into ag designation by letting someone farm it , cheap taxes, farmer pays the water and don't ever have to rent the house . Would never ever rent a house. Too much hassle dealing with renters and doing their chores for them., Not worth it. Do like selling a property and carrying back some of the paper, if in first position only. Thus having motivated "owners" who pay taxes, insurance, interest to me and do the maintenance also. Few people are actual "homeowners" they only basically rent, pay for too much house, too long a period. Interest don't matter as much when a young couple buys beyond their means. the kids will never get ahead financially. The couple who buys an acreage property with an older house in a great location can work the house up in a few years, sell at a nice capital gain thats non taxable and put the big profit to use in another piece of land. Real estate gets real boring after you done it a few years.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 30, 2017 19:47:33 GMT -5
coloradocliffI have a wicked real estate trick that has worked 5 times. This would be the smallest example.  Put an offer on the 4 small residential lots on NE 99th Pl. contingent on buying the 6 acre ag lot behind them. In this deal 6 acres on lake. Close. Then splitting/flagging the 6 acres using the road frontage 4 lots. The two lots on right flagged to lake. Sold 1. Then sold 2. Then sold 4.34 acre balance. Basically look for 5 to 40 acres that is behind small road front lots with only an easement(cheap per acre due to minimal frontage). Do contingency on one or more of the road front lots. If all closes, then split the big back acreage into 3-4 lots using the small pilot lot w/frontage. People buy 5 to 10 acre lots faster and higher/acre than 20-40 acre lots. Yes, back acres ag for low taxes. More lax subdivision rules. this works. X4 to X10 in 2 to 4 years. Buy it from agent, sell it w/same agent, she will find you more similar. agents don't play this trick, many don't want to mess w/sub-divide and contingency closing. all new lots must qualify for septic and well, avoid building streets and development. Divisions made based on newly acquired road frontage ONLY.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 30, 2017 20:30:11 GMT -5
coloradocliff I have a wicked real estate trick that has worked 5 times. This would be the smallest example. Put an offer on the 4 small residential lots on NE 99th Pl. contingent on buying the 6 acre ag lot behind them. In this deal 6 acres on lake. Close. Then splitting/flagging the 6 acres using the road frontage 4 lots. The two lots on right flagged to lake. Sold 1. Then sold 2. Then sold 4.34 acre balance. Basically look for 5 to 40 acres that is behind small road front lots with only an easement(cheap per acre due to minimal frontage). Do contingency on one or more of the road front lots. If all closes, then split the big back acreage into 3-4 lots using the small pilot lot w/frontage. People buy 5 to 10 acre lots faster and higher/acre than 20-40 acre lots. Yes, back acres ag for low taxes. More lax subdivision rules. this works. X4 to X10 in 2 to 4 years. Buy it from agent, sell it w/same agent, she will find you more similar. agents don't play this trick, many don't want to mess w/sub-divide and contingency closing. all new lots must qualify for septic and well, avoid building streets and development. Divisions made based on newly acquired road frontage ONLY. Most people don't want to work on things that require either thinking or back grounding a project. Simply will buy something from you and pay whatever price seems to fit with comparative sales. Its made easy for people who don't mind working for 30 years and then throwing 40 % of their hard put savings to someone else because they are too lazy to study things, learn building and zoning laws and codes. Forbid that they would ever want to learn to do their own general contracting. So many people are poor negotiators or just need to be stroked to make them give you their open check book. They get their perfect homesite and their dream and of course you get the money. Yeah gets old for sure. Don't need money and have lost interest in the process. I do love those 5-7 acre parcels though with water. Just so the government gets their high real estate taxes to pay their bribed supporters then everything is fine. If the government perceives that they can make mo money, then they simple change the laws. At times I really hate the rat race.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 30, 2017 22:10:10 GMT -5
coloradocliff No need to hate the system. Or how they spend the money they took. As long as you and your loved ones are comfortable and secure. There is that category of 'cost of doing business' where those costs, unfairness and hassles should be written off in mind. Hopefully a person has done enough research to make a deal work in their favor after all the costs have passed. It is do able. Happens all the time. Real estate is one of the most competitive industries. Lots of seasoned and experienced people. Lots of money means lots of unpredictable motives. Focusing on basic and simple subdivision off of purchased road frontage was my way. Planning department could not contest splitting land into smaller pieces if you met their road frontage and minimum lot size requirements. I have on 2 occasions had them give me argument. I hired a lawyer one time and he cited past cases where they allowed similar subdivisions. They gave in quickly. As if liable and vulnerable to being sued. Anyway, my method is a game of geometry. Looking at tax maps to find hard-to-get-to larger pieces that could be divided off of a smaller frontal lot. Usually looking for the big back lot that is for sale, "Ma'am, do you have any 10-40 acre lots for sale that is secluded or only reachable by easement ?". Then making offers to the frontal lot(s) directly to owners. even ludicrously high offers to get the frontage. But never telling anyone about the plan until they catch wind of contingency in offer at last moment. Me not aggressive, otherwise I would have played the leverage game. But enjoy a slower pace and avoid worrying about debt. I usually sold the first lot ridiculously cheap to recoup some or all of the initial investment. The 30 acre property I live on was almost free doing this method. 43 acres landlocked, 1/2 acre frontal lot, 13 acre lot sold, 12 and 17 acre lot I kept(for 20K). I have asked many seasoned investors and experienced agents their opinion of this method and was perplexed by their lackadaisical attitude. Anyway, I am sharing this with you for your own information. I made more income from these 5 deals than working my butt off in the plant biz for 25 years. Like you said, people do not want to risk their time and effort setting up a deal like this. Nothing truer, and these deals are laying on every table all over the country.
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Post by coloradocliff on Aug 31, 2017 8:58:37 GMT -5
coloradocliff No need to hate the system. Or how they spend the money they took. As long as you and your loved ones are comfortable and secure. There is that category of 'cost of doing business' where those costs, unfairness and hassles should be written off in mind. Hopefully a person has done enough research to make a deal work in their favor after all the costs have passed. It is do able. Happens all the time. Real estate is one of the most competitive industries. Lots of seasoned and experienced people. Lots of money means lots of unpredictable motives. Focusing on basic and simple subdivision off of purchased road frontage was my way. Planning department could not contest splitting land into smaller pieces if you met their road frontage and minimum lot size requirements. I have on 2 occasions had them give me argument. I hired a lawyer one time and he cited past cases where they allowed similar subdivisions. They gave in quickly. As if liable and vulnerable to being sued. Anyway, my method is a game of geometry. Looking at tax maps to find hard-to-get-to larger pieces that could be divided off of a smaller frontal lot. Usually looking for the big back lot that is for sale, "Ma'am, do you have any 10-40 acre lots for sale that is secluded or only reachable by easement ?". Then making offers to the frontal lot(s) directly to owners. even ludicrously high offers to get the frontage. But never telling anyone about the plan until they catch wind of contingency in offer at last moment. Me not aggressive, otherwise I would have played the leverage game. But enjoy a slower pace and avoid worrying about debt. I usually sold the first lot ridiculously cheap to recoup some or all of the initial investment. The 30 acre property I live on was almost free doing this method. 43 acres landlocked, 1/2 acre frontal lot, 13 acre lot sold, 12 and 17 acre lot I kept(for 20K). I have asked many seasoned investors and experienced agents their opinion of this method and was perplexed by their lackadaisical attitude. Anyway, I am sharing this with you for your own information. I made more income from these 5 deals than working my butt off in the plant biz for 25 years. Like you said, people do not want to risk their time and effort setting up a deal like this. Nothing truer, and these deals are laying on every table all over the country. Of course I hate the dishonest system and how is has been set up and used by unscrupulous people to take from other people. Unfair laws for personal gain by a few against the many. Yes hate having l;awyers and feel that that's another part of the system rigged against the people who either don't understand or are easily beaten down by the system. Wrong is wrong no matter what paint brushyou canpaint it with. DId I mention I hate lawyers? hehehe I have found that if you knbow the codes and laws you can convince the government on the lower or midlevels of the legality. No one cares about the feasibility except those of us who do such projects. I don't do anything shady and always give good value. Don't consider your method a scheme but a method that most people don't want to put the time or brainpower into. If anything its a public service bringing almost unusable land to the public for their own good. Someone has to do it. Might as well be rewarded for their efforts. No more hassle and complications wanted in my life. Done withal that . Have nt needed money for a long time and the anguish is not what I like living with on a day to day basis. My preference for real ewstate is buying during bad economic conditions and low home values. At one time owned a pile properties that I bought for 25-50 k, held over a period of 6-7 years and sold for an average of 75 k. Best ending 125 or so. Most smaller, fairly newer properties. Had to be a slum lord to keep all the balls in the air. Hated that but it worked for me. Cash or in this case good credit really is important. Yep renting for me at this time makes sense. In a different time ownership might be the way to go. Not now for me. Haven't rented in many years but will do so now for the freedom and flexibility it affords me.
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