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Post by glennz01 on Jun 2, 2016 1:37:55 GMT -5
June 2016 Friendly Cab Contest /Challenge This is a challenge to yourself... What is the best cab that you can create... posting the results of your creation whatever the outcome. Theme: N/A Rules: - Cabs entered must be completed by the deadline (they can be started before the month). All entries will require a photo of the slab or rock, preform and finished cab. So no cabs pulled from the drawer. You can enter as many photos of the finished cab as you like (within reason) on the same post. If you decide to add another photo later on, please edit your original post. Things like intarsias, carvings, jewelry, and composite type cabs may not be entered (unless otherwise specified) in an effort to keep the contest somewhat fair by just entering free form style cabs. It is OK if there is a hole drilled in the item with or without a jump ring, as long as there is no extras on the rock (wire, chord, etc.) We ask that all entries submitted to this contest be unique to this competition (not submitted in several different competitions). any duplicates will not be included in the voting list. Feel free to share with us what ever you like about the material, the process or what ever else you would like to share. Also, don't forget to include the name of the material. If a tie occurs in the voting the breaker will be whoever submitted the finished item first. Prize : Donated by broseph82 , winner gets to choose the next month's theme |
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Post by kk on Jun 2, 2016 3:13:49 GMT -5
Does an arrow head count?
Straight lines and planes, just 4 extra frills and two small incisions that could not be done at that angle on flat-lap.
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Post by orrum on Jun 2, 2016 6:00:11 GMT -5
My entry would probably b the wsy to include both flat spots and scratches, oh yes also chips! LOL
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Post by glennz01 on Jun 2, 2016 19:19:39 GMT -5
Does an arrow head count? Straight lines and planes, just 4 extra frills and two small incisions that could not be done at that angle on flat-lap. If your meaning make one on your cabbing machine in the shape of an arrow head, that would be considered a free-forum. Not so much knapping though. Anything that would be considered a cab in general goes. I'm not talking about carving a face like some other rock forum does though  |
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Post by broseph82 on Jun 8, 2016 8:18:29 GMT -5
Does an arrow head count? Straight lines and planes, just 4 extra frills and two small incisions that could not be done at that angle on flat-lap. Keep your coral snake out of this bud! I saw it on FB and it is a show stopper for sure |
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Post by kk on Jun 8, 2016 10:25:06 GMT -5
Does an arrow head count? Straight lines and planes, just 4 extra frills and two small incisions that could not be done at that angle on flat-lap. Keep your coral snake out of this bud! I saw it on FB and it is a show stopper for sure  Never planed for that little girl to be in the contest. In progress of making a little brother for her. Then will post both of them at RTH, but not for contest. What I had on mind here, was an arrowhead, but due to inward curves, and angles that can not be achieved with normal wheels, I can not enter that one either. Might still have something of the unusual sort coming up, and then while no chance for a win, no-one can dispute the term cab. |
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Post by kk on Jun 15, 2016 4:50:47 GMT -5
Wow, half the month gone and no entries yet. Whats happening, the theme does not get much easier than that. OK, so Im going first then. Darker Brazilian that I will utilize as a carving blank for the future. The rough  Preform  Will try to get a more colourful picture when the sun comes out. Today, my camera simply does not wanna get the colour right.  Thanks for looking, Kurt |
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Post by orrum on Jun 15, 2016 7:34:12 GMT -5
I like the live edge a bunch Kurt!
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Post by kk on Jun 15, 2016 8:09:32 GMT -5
I like the live edge a bunch Kurt! Thank you. I need the "Icy" part like that for a FB challenge on "Fire and Ice". |
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Post by glennz01 on Jun 15, 2016 8:56:19 GMT -5
cool looking. I was informed that my sheel should be coming back soon so I can make something!
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Post by Don on Jun 15, 2016 9:47:21 GMT -5
Brian Head agate from southern Utah.   |
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Post by Tommy on Jun 15, 2016 10:21:18 GMT -5
Wow, half the month gone and no entries yet. Whats happening, the theme does not get much easier than that. I know this will come across wrong but "easy" is not the problem (my opinion). We had two months in a row of ambiguous and subjective themes that for me personally have defeated the purpose of having a theme. If we can't look at the cab and say YES it fits the theme then the theme is invalid. For instance - in the May contest what does "favorite" mean for someone who gets excited about a new material every five minutes? Does it mean go to the material that he/she does the most of? That must be their new favorite right? I worked on cabs all month thinking how much fun some of them were and what a nightmare others were. In the end I literally do not have a "favorite" material. I have a collection of experiences with materials that I like to work with. Some of my "favorite" materials (leopardskin jasper) are that way because they are soft but sturdy and don't give me any trouble at all. I love to go to them after banging out a difficult agate etc. Should I slap an "easy" cab into the contest and call it my favorite? I thought about it over and over and it felt silly so I didn't. In the end three very nice entries were made and not one person vowed that they had entered their "favorite" material - my point exactly. Likewise - what does "challenge yourself" mean? Subjective at best. For a skilled craftsman like Kurt a highly technical fire and ice cab with crystals on top might be a piece of cake while another member (like me) who is thinking about entering might find it a high challenge to produce an oval out of a hard stone like Brazilian agate without scratches. Several of us who care about it and want to see a vibrant and active cab contest have tried to explain this in a number of ways in the past. Remove the inherent subjectivity from the theme and go with ONE theme that can be visually verified. Of course design elements (ie: red with white or teardrop shape) are subjective by nature but it gives the voter the responsibility to verify that the entry met the criteria of a theme. I can't look at Kurt's beautiful fire and ice cab and know if it was a challenge or Glenn's black rock in May and know it was his favorite rock - in both cases I cannot say if the theme was met. This is just my two cents and the last time I will spout it I think. I'm searching for something I can enter for June that I think was a "challenge" but honestly I feel it going the same way as the May theme. |
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Post by Don on Jun 15, 2016 10:49:43 GMT -5
I'm ignoring themes for the most part. I just enter whatever I've happened to remember to snap a pic or two of before and after contest photos. I've made 12-15 cabs this month so far, this is the first I've remembered to get pics for a contest entry. I'm just glad to have an entry to submit.
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Post by kk on Jun 15, 2016 10:59:20 GMT -5
Perfect polish. Is that Shiller effect running down the right side? |
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Post by Don on Jun 15, 2016 11:06:37 GMT -5
Perfect polish. Is that Shiller effect running down the right side? Thanks Kurt, no schiller, just a white line of inclusions in the agate. |
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Post by Tommy on Jun 15, 2016 11:07:19 GMT -5
I'm ignoring themes for the most part. I just enter whatever I've happened to remember to snap a pic or two of before and after contest photos. I've made 12-15 cabs this month so far, this is the first I've remembered to get pics for a contest entry. This is my point exactly now if the theme were "red" or "modified shield shape" we could visually see that the theme had been met. Beautiful cab btw. Very nice. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 15, 2016 11:55:46 GMT -5
Just adding to what Tommy said and to what Don said. I will often finish a cab and wish I had taken pictures of the slab or preform. I have never entered any of the contests because when I cab, I cab by the seat of my pants without a lot of thought about it till I'm done, sit back and admire what I might have accomplished. So, ANY theme is a bit of a hindrance to me. I did try once to photograph everything I had dopped, just in case I wanted to enter something in the end. But, it was too hard a stretch to make it fit the theme- forget which one it was. So, my suggestion, too, would be to make it as simple/broad as possible. One of these days I want to enter. |
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Post by Don on Jun 15, 2016 11:59:30 GMT -5
I'm ignoring themes for the most part. I just enter whatever I've happened to remember to snap a pic or two of before and after contest photos. I've made 12-15 cabs this month so far, this is the first I've remembered to get pics for a contest entry. This is my point exactly now if the theme were "red" or "modified shield shape" we could visually see that the theme had been met. Beautiful cab btw. Very nice. Thank you Tommy. Agreed, themes should be about physical characteristics and be clearly defined if they're going to be part of a contest. "make the best cab you can make" or "your favorite material" are not themes. Some examples: Theme is "Fire and Ice". Cabochons must include the colors red in combination with white agate or jasper, translucent agate, and/or crystals. Theme is "Rough Edge". Cabochons must include one or more rough/natural edges. Theme is "Modified Teardrop". Cabochons must have a modified teardrop shape. "modified" is up to your own interpretation. Theme is "Concave curves". Cabochons must have at least one concave upwards curve. Etc... |
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Post by Tommy on Jun 15, 2016 14:40:38 GMT -5
Just adding to what Tommy said and to what Don said. I will often finish a cab and wish I had taken pictures of the slab or preform. I have never entered any of the contests because when I cab, I cab by the seat of my pants without a lot of thought about it till I'm done, sit back and admire what I might have accomplished. So, ANY theme is a bit of a hindrance to me. I did try once to photograph everything I had dopped, just in case I wanted to enter something in the end. But, it was too hard a stretch to make it fit the theme- forget which one it was. So, my suggestion, too, would be to make it as simple/broad as possible. One of these days I want to enter. Tela, I respect that you are not a big fan of themes but I have to ask - would you be more likely or less likely to enter the contest if there was a specific theme, achievable by virtually everyone who cabs, and visually verifiable by the community? In my opinion these four suggestions by Don should be immediately implemented for the next four contests. October would be a real challenge for me because I don't do inward curves very well. July "Fire and Ice". Cabochons must include the colors red in combination with white agate or jasper, translucent agate, and/or crystals. August "Rough Edge". Cabochons must include one or more rough/natural edges. September "Modified Teardrop". Cabochons must have a modified teardrop shape. "modified" is up to your own interpretation. October "Concave curves". Cabochons must have at least one concave upwards curve. With a specific and verifiable theme I invite everyone who cabs to step up their game and come and try to beat me because I'm going to bring my 'A' game |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 15, 2016 14:53:58 GMT -5
Well, Tommy, that felt like a challenge! LOL! I do want to enter in one one day. Maybe in the curve one since I might actually be able to beat your bad as**ness. What Don suggested sounds pretty good to me. |
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Never planed for that little girl to be in the contest. 
