Fossilman
Cave Dweller
Member since January 2009
Posts: 20,694
|
Post by Fossilman on Jul 24, 2016 8:26:56 GMT -5
I have some Dallasite,it looks nothing like that.....(it is green though),with odd markings.... I see some of this stuff around Sweet Home area...Have some in my yard somewhere...
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Jul 25, 2016 22:24:05 GMT -5
Dallasite has a wide variety of display qualities, as it is a breccia stone. Some types have small composite material, some large. I have a wild variety in the ones that I have. Mine are in the polisher now, so I cannot snap a photo and post it here. There are photos of larger chunk Dallasite material posted here on ProBoards, and other wild BC cab photos posted online here: bcrockhound.com/tag/dallasite/Do a Dallasite image search using Google, and then do a Chinese Writing Rock search. They overlap and you will see a vast array of variety in the stones.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 22:57:36 GMT -5
Dallasite has a wide variety of display qualities, as it is a breccia stone. Some types have small composite material, some large. I have a wild variety in the ones that I have. Mine are in the polisher now, so I cannot snap a photo and post it here. There are photos of larger chunk Dallasite material posted here on ProBoards, and other wild BC cab photos posted online here: bcrockhound.com/tag/dallasite/Do a Dallasite image search using Google, and then do a Chinese Writing Rock search. They overlap and you will see a vast array of variety in the stones. Yeah, Stewart is a beloved member er here. My gut feeling is this stone may have similar chemistry but the name "Dallasite" is a locality based moniker. And we can diagnose the locality by seeing the stones. While the stones in this thread are from shores of the same continent, they aren't from the Dallasite shorelines. Same as a rosy boa from whitewater canyon is diagnosable as from that canyon. There are rosy boas from all over the southwest that are genetically similar. They are not all the same. Pictures offered as evidence if needed. I admit my imperfection and am simply reporting my gut.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 22:59:38 GMT -5
And no. None of them are breccia.
|
|
meviva
Cave Dweller
Member since July 2013
Posts: 1,474
|
Post by meviva on Jul 29, 2016 23:39:21 GMT -5
|
|
wampidytoo
has rocks in the head
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_pink.png) ![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_pink.png)
Add 5016 to my post count.
Member since June 2013
Posts: 709
|
Post by wampidytoo on Jul 30, 2016 9:38:54 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that is sweet. Blown up that big and still looks perfect. You made an excellent choice with that owl. They are way cool birds. I used to have a piece of pet wood that looked a lot like an owl but gave it away to someone else that is into owls. Jim ![](http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h375/wampidy/posted/PA070054.jpg)
|
|
jdubs
having dreams about rocks
Member since June 2016
Posts: 54
|
Post by jdubs on Jul 30, 2016 18:07:44 GMT -5
Nice rocks!
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Aug 14, 2016 16:18:31 GMT -5
Dallasite has a wide variety of display qualities, as it is a breccia stone. Some types have small composite material, some large. I have a wild variety in the ones that I have. Mine are in the polisher now, so I cannot snap a photo and post it here. There are photos of larger chunk Dallasite material posted here on ProBoards, and other wild BC cab photos posted online here: bcrockhound.com/tag/dallasite/Do a Dallasite image search using Google, and then do a Chinese Writing Rock search. They overlap and you will see a vast array of variety in the stones. Yeah, Stewart is a beloved member er here. My gut feeling is this stone may have similar chemistry but the name "Dallasite" is a locality based moniker. And we can diagnose the locality by seeing the stones. While the stones in this thread are from shores of the same continent, they aren't from the Dallasite shorelines. Same as a rosy boa from whitewater canyon is diagnosable as from that canyon. There are rosy boas from all over the southwest that are genetically similar. They are not all the same. Pictures offered as evidence if needed. I admit my imperfection and am simply reporting my gut. Well, I have been all over Vancouver Island, and I have lived up and down the west coast of NA for most of my life (from Campbell River to Puerto Vallarta). While Dallasite may be attributed to VI, I have found several areas on the mainland with the same rocks in the west slopes of the Cascades. The variation is vast in these rocks, even on VI. I have a large collection of the stuff, mostly from Washington and mainland BC. If you understand the geology of the western PNW, we were (and are still being) rammed by the forces of the Juan de Fuca tectonic plate with a series of islands being shoved in from the Pacific, VI being another one. So my bet is that they are rocks formed long ago eroded out and tumbled by river flows and winding up on the floor of the Pacific, and later uplifted onto what has become the western PNW (mainland and islands). My read and observations anyway. These rocks have become my new point of focus for my collecting. The more I look, the more variation I find. I never thought much of them before, as there are so many around here. Again, the variation in them is vast. Call them flower stones, Chinese writing rock, or Dallasite. All the same, yet all very unique. The OP has a rather nice example of a very "noisy" rock with a lot of 'writing' on it. Other examples that I have are very simplistic with just a few characters. Some rock symbols are more square, and some round in petal 'flower' formations. Some are inverted with green specks on a white rock background. Some are in hard jasper that takes a high polish. Some are in more porous material that does not tumble well. Of course, maybe they were left here by aliens, and these were the "newspapers" of the day? Maybe L Ron Hubbard would know?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 17:21:34 GMT -5
Lumper vs. splitters is an age old argument in the classification business.
Anything being classified can have infinite divisions, or none. Look at my post above with the mindset that all these things while chemically and geologically similar, a specific variety may be geographically recognizable.
For instance. In Europe they have a type of marble called "Carrera". Worldwide we find chemically and geologically similar marble deposits. Based on your theory, should we call all marbles "Carrera"? Or should geographical representative names apply?
I would say that if you want to say Dallasite from BC is a form of chinese writing stone, then so be it. But to say all chinese writing stone is dallasite? Not so much.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Sept 6, 2016 23:15:27 GMT -5
Call it what you will. I have been asking around about this 'Flower stone/Chinese Writing rock/Dallasite" stuff, and I have been finding more of it the more I look. Lars Johnson has several photos of it in his newer Rockhounding Oregon book. One is of the Grande Ronde River south photo on page 126, and another from the Grande Ronde River north on page 144. They are quite distinct, though they show the same type of variation as official "Dallasite." So IMHO this stuff can be found in a far wider region that I previously thought. The Grande Ronde River is in the far NE corner of Oregon and SE Washington. Also note that the stuff I find here is highly variable in color, patterns, and varies from super hard highly polishable jasper to really soft stuff that flakes off or disappears in the tumbler. Not unlike most jaspers here in Oregon; Owyhee and Biggs have soft porous variants as well as super hard stuff. Jaspers as a rule are not all the same, even collected in the exact same area.
If I can figure it out, I will post a photo here of a bucket full of what I believe is the same species of rock as "Dallasite" that I pulled out of a riverbed in Southern Washington this summer. It polishes up nicely (see the three rocks in the middle).
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Sept 6, 2016 23:36:47 GMT -5
|
|
dottyt
spending too much on rocks
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_teal.png)
Member since July 2016
Posts: 305
|
Post by dottyt on Sept 6, 2016 23:45:28 GMT -5
Google wanted me to sign in to look at these. Annoying, privacy invading busybodies.
|
|
Fossilman
Cave Dweller
Member since January 2009
Posts: 20,694
|
Post by Fossilman on Sept 7, 2016 9:21:13 GMT -5
I have found this " Chinese writing rock " in the upper Sweet Home area in Oregon,did a few cuts on it and put it in my rock garden (to stay)Very unstable)... The Dallasite that I did get from bcrockhound,was completely different,in all aspects of color,hardness and cut...(its in my shop,for further cutting).... I'm not arguing the point,just putting in my views...
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Sept 7, 2016 15:36:43 GMT -5
Most forums just let you upload photos... I do not understand these forums that make you put photos someplace else on the web and then reference them. The problem with that is that links change over time, or the photos are removed form other sites, and thus they will vaporize here as well.
As for privacy on the internet, there is none. Assume that everything that you post, send or email on the web is being hacked by the Russians, the Chinese, by private companies worldwide, by web crawlers, by hackers in South Asia and Eastern Europe, and by various US and foreign national agencies who store everything sent on the web in massive storage facilities like the ones in Utah. No, I am not paranoid. I am a computer design engineer by trade, as well as a materials scientist. I specialized in large to massive scale silicon (and other substrate) chip design in my engineering career. I also once supported the NSA as a technical support engineer in the 80s and 90s when I worked for various defense contractors. There is simply no such thing as privacy online. Even if you encrypt things. Too easy to crack now with the large scale computer systems. As are passwords. I long for the old Darpa days when the internet was just for us engineers and scientists. Now its all social media, porn and advertising.
|
|
dottyt
spending too much on rocks
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_teal.png)
Member since July 2016
Posts: 305
|
Post by dottyt on Sept 7, 2016 23:20:07 GMT -5
Most forums just let you upload photos... I do not understand these forums that make you put photos someplace else on the web and then reference them. The problem with that is that links change over time, or the photos are removed form other sites, and thus they will vaporize here as well. As for privacy on the internet, there is none. Assume that everything that you post, send or email on the web is being hacked by the Russians, the Chinese, by private companies worldwide, by web crawlers, by hackers in South Asia and Eastern Europe, and by various US and foreign national agencies who store everything sent on the web in massive storage facilities like the ones in Utah. No, I am not paranoid. I am a computer design engineer by trade, as well as a materials scientist. I specialized in large to massive scale silicon (and other substrate) chip design in my engineering career. I also once supported the NSA as a technical support engineer in the 80s and 90s when I worked for various defense contractors. There is simply no such thing as privacy online. Even if you encrypt things. Too easy to crack now with the large scale computer systems. As are passwords. I long for the old Darpa days when the internet was just for us engineers and scientists. Now its all social media, porn and advertising. Yeah, I know. I am happy if everyone in the universe reads my posts on rocks. It is just irksome that you have to sign into Google to view someone's photos. I understand that there are too many photos for a free forum to host, but some offsite hosts seem easier to view than others. I am still not sure how to post photos here. The site recommended in the "Welcome" message looks like it charges $8/mo. This may be reasonable if one is using it quite a bit, but it seems excessive for occasional use. I used to live a short distance away from Google Headquarters. The Googlers often came en-mass to some kids' (mostly) play place (every surface covered with trampolines or whatever) and they all had this 'odd deer in the headlights' look. It was weird. Virtually all my family are defense contractors, btw. So I can vouch for many not using the same communication means everyone else does for work related stuff. I remember Usenet too. But alt.minerals probably went bad long ago.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 18:43:18 GMT -5
I'm signed into Google. My view says 404 error
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Sept 20, 2016 15:00:11 GMT -5
|
|
OregonBorn
noticing nice landscape pebbles
![*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/stars/star_orange.png)
Member since September 2015
Posts: 88
|
Post by OregonBorn on Sept 20, 2016 15:02:10 GMT -5
Amusing also that the FBI came out this week and is advising that everyone cover their webcams with tape. I also found this on the web today. Seems that internet apps and security/privacy issues are going places I never dreamed of. www.markeoopsch.com/story/bad-vibrations-your-sex-toy-may-be-collecting-information-about-you-2016-09-20I mean, really? Actually I never had a clue as to where the internet would go from where it was back in the 1980s. Or even the 90s. As for Google, I lived in the Silly Valley for 12 years. I have been to the Googleplex (what was the SGI campus in Palo Alto) and eaten at several of the lavish Google "cafeterias"/restaurants. Good food. Insane benefits there. Though we actually had better benefits at General Dynamics in Sandy Eggo in the 1980s. At GD we has 100% medical and dental coverage for any doctor anywhere in the world, a company retirement benefit plan, as well as a 401-k matching plan. We had 12 paid holidays a year, and 21 paid sick days a year. My master's degree courses at UCSD were paid for 100% by the company, including text books and parking fees. We also had lots of company and gov't paid for lunches, parties and events, usually one a week, as well as tix to football and baseball games, and local theme park tix. Per diem and travel expenses there as paid for in advance for all company trips. We were paid salary for a 40 hour week, which was actually a 40 hour week. I was also approved for overtime, for which I was paid a straight hourly scale, but I was later paid for the added half time. That was during the RayGun days before the military contractor meltdown on the early to mid 1990s.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Member since January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 20:01:14 GMT -5
Amusing also that the FBI came out this week and is advising that everyone cover their webcams with tape. I also found this on the web today. Seems that internet apps and security/privacy issues are going places I never dreamed of. www.markeoopsch.com/story/bad-vibrations-your-sex-toy-may-be-collecting-information-about-you-2016-09-20I mean, really? Actually I never had a clue as to where the internet would go from where it was back in the 1980s. Or even the 90s. As for Google, I lived in the Silly Valley for 12 years. I have been to the Googleplex (what was the SGI campus in Palo Alto) and eaten at several of the lavish Google "cafeterias"/restaurants. Good food. Insane benefits there. Though we actually had better benefits at General Dynamics in Sandy Eggo in the 1980s. At GD we has 100% medical and dental coverage for any doctor anywhere in the world, a company retirement benefit plan, as well as a 401-k matching plan. We had 12 paid holidays a year, and 21 paid sick days a year. My master's degree courses at UCSD were paid for 100% by the company, including text books and parking fees. We also had lots of company and gov't paid for lunches, parties and events, usually one a week, as well as tix to football and baseball games, and local theme park tix. Per diem and travel expenses there as paid for in advance for all company trips. We were paid salary for a 40 hour week, which was actually a 40 hour week. I was also approved for overtime, for which I was paid a straight hourly scale, but I was later paid for the added half time. That was during the RayGun days before the military contractor meltdown on the early to mid 1990s. You url has an embedded curse word. Have a look
|
|
rockpickerforever
Cave Dweller
RIP Jean Bradley, you are forever loved
Member since July 2011
Posts: 12,069
|
Post by rockpickerforever on Sept 21, 2016 15:05:20 GMT -5
Amusing also that the FBI came out this week and is advising that everyone cover their webcams with tape. I also found this on the web today. Seems that internet apps and security/privacy issues are going places I never dreamed of. www.markeoopsch.com/story/bad-vibrations-your-sex-toy-may-be-collecting-information-about-you-2016-09-20I mean, really? Actually I never had a clue as to where the internet would go from where it was back in the 1980s. Or even the 90s. As for Google, I lived in the Silly Valley for 12 years. I have been to the Googleplex (what was the SGI campus in Palo Alto) and eaten at several of the lavish Google "cafeterias"/restaurants. Good food. Insane benefits there. Though we actually had better benefits at General Dynamics in Sandy Eggo in the 1980s. At GD we has 100% medical and dental coverage for any doctor anywhere in the world, a company retirement benefit plan, as well as a 401-k matching plan. We had 12 paid holidays a year, and 21 paid sick days a year. My master's degree courses at UCSD were paid for 100% by the company, including text books and parking fees. We also had lots of company and gov't paid for lunches, parties and events, usually one a week, as well as tix to football and baseball games, and local theme park tix. Per diem and travel expenses there as paid for in advance for all company trips. We were paid salary for a 40 hour week, which was actually a 40 hour week. I was also approved for overtime, for which I was paid a straight hourly scale, but I was later paid for the added half time. That was during the RayGun days before the military contractor meltdown on the early to mid 1990s. You url has an embedded curse word. Have a look
I don't think there was anything questionable or risqué intended here. The word in the link that the bad word police did not like is "Market watch". Replace the oops with the cursed letters t wat and you can get to the page. No big conspiracy here.
I think OregonBorn was only pointing out how information that you may think is safe, is being collected. You may not even be aware of it, or know how the collectors of said information intend to use it. It may come back to bite you in the ass, or someplace else.
As for your time in Sandy Eggo, my dad worked at GD from 1955 to 1994. 39 years, you may have known him! He was mostly at the Kearny Mesa plant, but did move around and work for them at several different locations over those many years.
They had everything you mentioned, great benefits, etc. A lot of the big companies in those long forgotten days actually cared about their employees. They did a lot of things for those employees and their families. Remember going to the Missile Park often as a child, great memories. Only wish I was into rocks way back when, I understand they had quite the lapidary setup. So did Rohr. Field trips... It was a different era. Jean
ETA - Should have put his pic up for him! Yep, them look like beach rocks! ![](http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p717/scottsworthy/DSC_0563_zpscc4k3poq.jpg)
Copy the "Direct" link, then click on insert image in the menu.
|
|