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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 19:29:06 GMT -5
Thought of that Scott, but I doubt a used motor is worth all that much. Maybe a trade-in in at my local motor shop. I'm wondering why there is a 5 HP motor on a rock saw in the first place. Seems like huge overkill. Does it also drive the hydraulics? |
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Post by captbob on Aug 29, 2016 19:51:07 GMT -5
Yes it does.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 22:07:27 GMT -5
Thought of that Scott, but I doubt a used motor is worth all that much. Maybe a trade-in in at my local motor shop. I'm wondering why there is a 5 HP motor on a rock saw in the first place. Seems like huge overkill. Looks like a $700 motore, new. Didnt check ebay for used. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Aug 29, 2016 23:13:21 GMT -5
My Frantom 24 has a 1HP motor and never breaks a sweat, perhaps the 5HP is there to satisfy the production slabber who will kick the hydraulics into overdrive to make lots of slabs in a hurry.
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Post by quartz on Aug 30, 2016 0:18:45 GMT -5
I'd be thinking someone got the 5hp on the cheap when original motor went away, total overkill.
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Post by captbob on Aug 30, 2016 8:04:57 GMT -5
I'd be thinking someone got the 5hp on the cheap when original motor went away, total overkill. That may be it. The Diamond pacific web site says the saw comes with a 1 1/2 HP motor 230 volt The Kingsley North site says 1 1/2 HP but - 110 volt hmmmm... 110 sure would make things easier. Looks like I'll be swapping out the motor. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 9:35:22 GMT -5
I'd be thinking someone got the 5hp on the cheap when original motor went away, total overkill. That may be it. The Diamond pacific web site says the saw comes with a 1 1/2 HP motor 230 volt The Kingsley North site says 1 1/2 HP but - 110 volt hmmmm... 110 sure would make things easier. Looks like I'll be swapping out the motor. Considering your cost so far, you are looking pretty good with just a motor. Even if you go new so it's pretty like the saw, I am envious.  |
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Post by johnjsgems on Aug 30, 2016 9:42:17 GMT -5
It is not a dual voltage motor. If there is such a thing as a motor shop still around they could rewind but better to have a 230v circuit put in. You can ask Diamond Pacific why they use 5 hp. My HP24 had a 1.5hp I think.
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Post by johnjsgems on Aug 30, 2016 9:46:47 GMT -5
DP catalog says 1.5hp 230 v. Maybe somebody put a harbor freight 5 hp like on my air compressor. What are the specs on your 5 hp?
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Post by captbob on Aug 30, 2016 10:04:24 GMT -5
Hey John,
Dayton Industrial Motor
Model # 6K633D
5 HP
The plate on it says:
Volts 230
Amps 19.6
is there other information you are asking for?
On Grainger's web site, it's over a $700 motor.
ETA: Also, that saw blade isn't good for anything other than concrete is it?
It is an MK Diamond Products blade - MK505
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Post by johnjsgems on Aug 30, 2016 13:32:13 GMT -5
Maybe it was acquired at work by previous owner. I thought I had a good 1.5hp motor here but nothing bigger than 1 hp, I was going to offer a trade and may need a 3450rpm 5 hp for my air compressor soon. You would not want 3450 on the saw anyway. Maybe put craig's list add want to trade for 1.5 hp 1725 115/230 ODP motor.
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Post by QuailRiver on Aug 30, 2016 13:40:58 GMT -5
Here are the images that the seller emailed me when I had inquired as to what phase motor the saw has. I didn't even notice at the time that this motor is a 3520 rpm motor. Those guys must have really been plowing through their concrete samples!  Larry C. |
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Post by Rockoonz on Aug 30, 2016 20:51:54 GMT -5
Going to need to check the pulley arrangement when you get your correct motor, they might have changed that to compensate for the faster motor.
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Post by jamesp on Aug 31, 2016 5:40:24 GMT -5
Been gone 2 weeks and you got your self a saw mill.
THAT is a saw. 900 pounds !!!
Glad the garage held out. That operation would have made me sweat bullets.
Wife can hang you on those eye bolts, best remove them ASAP.
If she decides to, call me so I can watch, you have popcorn ?
"The DOT needed a saw to cut concrete cylinders (plugs).
So someone just ordered the most expensive saw they could find.
.gov spent 10 grand on a saw that they could have used something well less than half that price to do the job."
5 HP to gnaw through concrete at a fast rate.
Check out item 10-2706 at Surplus Center. 1 hp 115/230 1800 RPM Totally enclosed fan cooled Leeson brand $184
Probably have to drill some holes or figure a way to mount smaller motor. It has a 56C frame.
As mentioned, may have to tinker with pulleys too. Concrete blades usually geared faster.
-OR-, they just let the 3520 RPM motor do the speed increase(hopefully). And left the pulleys alone....
May consider 1.5 HP item 10-2707 for $231. For more power, your call.
Those TEFC Leeson motors are fine. And Surplus Center has been selling them for years.
If you need, or are forced, to move the saw my camp is available. Which one of you is going to have to park outside ?
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Post by jamesp on Aug 31, 2016 6:16:52 GMT -5
I may have a 1 HP laying around. It may be a 3600 RPM, you need 1725/1800. Will look.
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Post by Garage Rocker on Aug 31, 2016 8:31:20 GMT -5
Wife can hang you on those eye bolts, best remove them ASAP. Ha! Now that's the kind of real world advice we need. Good thinkin', James. |
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Post by jamesp on Aug 31, 2016 8:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by jamesp on Aug 31, 2016 8:38:52 GMT -5
Motors are all pump motors and 3600 RPM. Probably have short threaded shafts. Useless for a saw.
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Post by captbob on Aug 31, 2016 9:32:41 GMT -5
Had to Google that picture above. Had no idea who she is.
Gonna get a new motor and order several small new parts. Gotta pretty her up! - it's what I do.
Probably on hold for a couple days while this storm makes it's way by. Supposed to get 10+ inches of rain.
Off to check the perimeter ...
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Post by jamesp on Aug 31, 2016 10:26:07 GMT -5
"Figures from the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services show that as of the end of May, the Tampa Bay area has registered 20.02 inches of rain, or 49.63 percent of the area's yearly normal rainfall."
Seems like you got 10 more inches in August.
Now another 10" ?
Serious stall right over your zone. Rain hat time.
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