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Post by jamesp on Jun 15, 2017 11:10:49 GMT -5
I know aquarium fish have no become some of the best sport fishing targets in south Florida. The lakes in central Florida have tilapia and 2' algae eaters (plecostomus). tilapia prized for spear fishing. South Florida has cichlids, oscars, peacock bass. The big snakes love south Florida. Iguana too. Non-native Lizards and newts are rampant is south Florida. Parrots and other tropical birds. Capybara lol. Humongo rodents GIANT RATS ha ha Adult capybaras are the largest extant rodents. They may grow more than four feet (130 centimeters) long and 50 centimeters tall (1.6 feet), and commonly weigh more than 50 kilograms (110 pounds) (NZP 2007; Magalhaes 1992). Females are slightly heavier than males (CZ 2007). The Nile croc may be a problem. I think he is responsible for killing people in foreign lands. Maybe they just spend too much time in the rivers over there. Some may be drama. But I have witnessed plenty of non-natives if Florida. No doubt they do well there. m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/05/19/florida-now-has-a-nile-crocodile-problem
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Post by captbob on Jun 15, 2017 11:33:11 GMT -5
Kinda thought this thread was going to be about New Yorkers and the other invasive Yankee State types that move down here by the hundreds of thousands.
Much rather have the snakes and lizards!
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 15, 2017 11:55:00 GMT -5
I was wondering as well, just had a rock club member move there to help out her native northwesterner mom who moved there a few years ago.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 15, 2017 13:00:52 GMT -5
I believe crocs are just naturally MUCH more aggressive. Those are the giant rats they were training to sniff out mines, right? They are supposed to be highly intelligent. That would probably make them even more of a problem.
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 15, 2017 19:51:16 GMT -5
Whoa.. Hope they get a quick handle on the crocs. Lion fish have really raised havoc off shore. Not many raccoons these days due to boas. Of course Florida has their own natives.. love bugs, palmetto bugs etc. Bet the crocs will change people's boating and swimming habits.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2017 6:41:15 GMT -5
Kinda thought this thread was going to be about New Yorkers and the other invasive Yankee State types that move down here by the hundreds of thousands. Much rather have the snakes and lizards! The closer they came from New Jersey/New York City the further to stay away from them. Salt Springs is a historical Yankee destination. And one of the most prejudiced towns towards minorities go figure. The whole Ocala National Forest is about devoid of minorities. It is referred to as "the forest" by Hispanic and African Americans and avoided. For amusement, have breakfast in Salt Springs at the 'Square Meal'. Usually about a dozen grumpy old men yanks in there biting each other's heads off. Affection displayed by continually snipping at each other. Seasonal snowbirds. They stay at the massive travel trailer park behind the Square Meal during the cold months. Then it is back to us crackers in the warm months. Seasonal cultural shock treatment. Poor yankees get raped by water front real estate. 5-9 year wet/dry cycles. Water line may be 100- 400 yards away during dry cycles with shallow water frontage. They get deceived often by not buying DEEP water frontage. It's a legal scam. Rule-buy during dry cycle. Note real estate office next to Square Meal preying on the unknowing Yankee's.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2017 6:59:49 GMT -5
I believe crocs are just naturally MUCH more aggressive. Those are the giant rats they were training to sniff out mines, right? They are supposed to be highly intelligent. That would probably make them even more of a problem. Apparently gators are docile compared to crocs. Slower and more lethargic. May be less discriminatory about attacking humans. I have raided alligator nests and taken the eggs back to Atlanta. Easy to raid. Easy to hatch. Probably easy to ship croc eggs during warm season. Would not be surprised if crocs thrive as well as the big non-native snakes. Attaining large sizes. The Tilapia and aquarium type algae eater fish grow to full size quickly in central Florida. It is easy to go out in an air boat and spear 400 pounds of Tilapia in 6 hours at night. at $2 a pound uncleaned there are people making a decent income. Being an invasive species the DNR promotes their removal. It is the south Florida tropical weather that supports the more interesting non-natives. Factor in the un-navigable massive Everglades and there is no telling what is lurking.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2017 7:25:38 GMT -5
I was wondering as well, just had a rock club member move there to help out her native northwesterner mom who moved there a few years ago. Florida is well equipped to handle retiree's. Medically and legally. Florida has made big advances in making laws to prevent 'death bed marriages'. Unscrupulous people moving in romantically or as a friend to steal the afflicted's estate. Difficult to defend against such a scam, going back and proving mental fitness at time of marriage. Large population of retirees, large population of scammers. This happened to my father 3 years ago in Georgia. The going rate for an attorney's deposit in Georgia is $40,000 just to defend such a case. Ha, bye bye Dad's estate. 50/50 win rate. Attorney and new wife smiling as they walked away w/the family fortune while the police restrained me at the nursing home. My father drooling on himself as he is signing full POA. She made one teeny tiny little boo boo. Dad made full recovery and has spent half the estate in costs in 3 years. I had the satisfaction to remind her that if he lives long enough he will spend out his estate. In that case he will have to qualify for Medicaid for his nursing home care. Medicaid will do a look back for 5 years and analyze what was spent from the estate. Should she spend any of his money on anything but his care, Medicaid will go after her for what she spent. I reminded here that I have all his bank and stock statements. And would be very helpful when Medicaid does a look back. She has spent everyday by his side. Knowing that he has become lucid and could cancel the POA if she is not a good little wife. Dad has the finest care giver. Thank you Evelyn. Dad and his little Leopardess. She is loosing her health, Dad will probably out live her.
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Post by lookatthat on Jun 18, 2017 8:28:13 GMT -5
Keep on rockin' Daddy-O! I hope he lives to 105 and enjoys every day of it!
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2017 8:45:52 GMT -5
Keep on rockin' Daddy-O! I hope he lives to 105 and enjoys every day of it! He may have been more lucid than we e.ver thought.
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Post by coloradocliff on Jun 18, 2017 9:29:31 GMT -5
Keep on rockin' Daddy-O! I hope he lives to 105 and enjoys every day of it! He may have been more lucid than we e.ver thought. Lucidity?? Side effect from massive dosages of viagra..
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Post by Shannon on Jun 18, 2017 10:07:20 GMT -5
I believe crocs are just naturally MUCH more aggressive. Those are the giant rats they were training to sniff out mines, right? They are supposed to be highly intelligent. That would probably make them even more of a problem. Capybara aren't rats, they're basically giant guinea pigs. I think you're thinking of a program that takes place somewhere in Africa utilizing giant pouch rats? Unless I missed something very very interesting in the news. Here's some cute pics of them: www.zooborns.com/zooborns/capybara/The entire ecological situation of Florida is basically one big life lesson that you should never release pets into the wild. Someone did that here once and now we have a huge roaming flock of wild parrots.
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Post by rockjunquie on Jun 18, 2017 10:12:36 GMT -5
I believe crocs are just naturally MUCH more aggressive. Those are the giant rats they were training to sniff out mines, right? They are supposed to be highly intelligent. That would probably make them even more of a problem. Capybara aren't rats, they're basically giant guinea pigs. I think you're thinking of a program that takes place somewhere in Africa utilizing giant pouch rats? Unless I missed something very very interesting in the news. Here's some cute pics of them: www.zooborns.com/zooborns/capybara/The entire ecological situation of Florida is basically one big life lesson that you should never release pets into the wild. Someone did that here once and now we have a huge roaming flock of wild parrots. I think you're right- giant rats. It was in Africa.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2017 11:08:04 GMT -5
LOL, well, they are classified as rodents I believe. Rats guinea pigs, capybara all similar thru my eyes. It is an amusing subject shannon. It might freak the subway folks if one crawled out of a sewer hole close by. Thinking mass havoc. On Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom Jim was appointed to wrestle one for capture. The capybara gave him quite a tussle. Looked like big strong 200+ man being man handled by 100 pound rat lol.
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Post by Rockoonz on Jun 18, 2017 15:16:32 GMT -5
jamesp good on your dad. My wife does in home caregiving for a living, it can get pretty spendy. She just might be costing him less.
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Post by jamesp on Jun 18, 2017 15:21:30 GMT -5
jamesp good on your dad. My wife does in home caregiving for a living, it can get pretty spendy. She just might be costing him less. She darn sure did end up being a bargain. Likely due to greed. She has earned my respect. She can have the money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 16:18:45 GMT -5
Interesting thread.this is what fish and wildlife gets when they put endangered species status on non endangered species like nile crocs. Breeders easily overproduced the Florida market. Endangered status means they cannot be sold across state line. Prices went below production costs. Stop breeding them, let babies go if they happen. In a few decades all the nile crocs in the world in the Everglades! jamesp wasn't aware of the newts in south Florida. Do you know what species?
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Post by Sabre52 on Jun 18, 2017 19:24:33 GMT -5
Texas of course, due to the hunting industry, is rampant with exotics but I kind of like them. When we catch'em we sell 'em too. Got $750 for a Hawaiian Black sheep awhile ago. And of course, we trap and sell a lot of Mouflon and blackbuck. Never know what will walk out of the bushes here and if you are low fenced you get a lot of unexpected stuff. Weirdest we've had lately was a Mara, a kind of rabbit/dog looking giant rodent of maybe 30 pounds or so. Have also seen Nilgai, Axis, Sika, and Red deer lately. Guess we are lucky not to have a climate quite warm enough for all the exotic reptiles but I would love to have iguanas, tegus or boas. Captbob has the coolest iguana. Only exotic herp I've seen here so far are the Turkish Geckos which are everywhere on our stone houses and some kind of foreign anole I've seen in town....Mel
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 19:29:43 GMT -5
Mel,
Argentine red or black & white tegus will thrive in your climate.
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Post by bushmanbilly on Jun 19, 2017 9:58:48 GMT -5
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