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Post by fernwood on Jan 15, 2019 8:09:43 GMT -5
All of my welding equipment was stolen. And these were items I had used in the past. Might be calling on local contacts for any scrap materials here. I can do the small stuff, but would need to hire someone to do the large things. Maybe a trade is in order. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 15, 2019 16:06:18 GMT -5
All of my welding equipment was stolen. And these were items I had used in the past. Might be calling on local contacts for any scrap materials here. I can do the small stuff, but would need to hire someone to do the large things. Maybe a trade is in order. Thanks for the heads up. The crack heads love welders and welding cable. Lots of copper puts a lot of needles in their arms. azzholes |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 15, 2019 16:12:43 GMT -5
Railing removal and a good pressure washing to clean surfaces for caulk and aerosol foam bonding. ready for bed. yesterday  today  Begin panel install tomorrow  |
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Post by fernwood on Jan 15, 2019 16:28:36 GMT -5
You have been very busy.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 15, 2019 21:43:45 GMT -5
I'm enjoying watching your progress on this project jamesp. Looking forward to seeing the next steps. Your workshop is gonna be rockin! |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2019 8:14:59 GMT -5
That big building was put there because my wife and I had faith we were going to be living here for years to come.
Had we had to move it would have been a wasted effort so we adopted a mind set that we were going to stay at this property.
So many people move for many reasons like job, divorce, etc. You never really know what the future holds.
She and I had to discuss the chances of divorce in the future lol. But it does happen.
This farm has had a lot of investments similar to this project that would assist self employment.
This 'stay here' philosophy helped push success at self employment ventures.
Success at self employment is so much easier to accomplish if you have infrastructure to perform the needed tasks to make products.
It is all a gamble that just happened to work in our situation.
Zoning regulations prevent people from moving forward with such buildings.
AG zoning was a big help allowing lots of freedom in building barns.
Blindly moving to an agricultural zoned property 32 years ago allowed this life style.
ETA Health is critical. You are on your own when self employed. Wife cut thumb off using tools and my crippling injuries from playing. Thankfully we are still functional.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2019 8:55:48 GMT -5
I'm enjoying watching your progress on this project jamesp. Looking forward to seeing the next steps. Your workshop is gonna be rockin! Fingers crossed no unforeseen issues arise and thanks Robin. Been here before and it looks like a routine cookie cutter project. Can't believe we are going to hire out the carpentry and concrete. exciting !! Denise has left to pick up our worker of 15 years. Dang that rascal he still has no ride but hey he works hard and well worth bringing to the job. |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2019 9:42:43 GMT -5
Good morning. Had a brain storm. Just this morn ! Moved(dragged it w/ATV) the hydraulic fire pit lift to the site to raise the panels to the 2nd floor. It does not like rolling on gravel. Clamped a panel on the forks of the lift for a platform to stack the panels on. Beats lifting them one by one overhead which is serious labor. Nippy 30F and dead clear/early fog day but humid cold. Should be up to 56F, perfect. Supplier says they weigh 3 pounds per sq ft so 28 X 3 = 84 pounds each. This will make today much easier. The lift is the yellow thing:  |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 16, 2019 13:39:58 GMT -5
1:30 PM   Lift was wanting to flip over. Counterweighted by truck.  |
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Post by HankRocks on Jan 16, 2019 13:56:35 GMT -5
1:30 PM Lift was wanting to flip over. Counterweighted by truck. Ok, now I am laughing....I am sure there's a section in one of the OSHA codes for using vehicles as counter-weights!! On the other hand "necessity is the mother of inventions" or maybe "....of all injuries" |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 16, 2019 15:09:15 GMT -5
jamesp, how do those boards do with moisture? Do you have to seal them or anything? Love to watch your projects.
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Post by beefjello on Jan 16, 2019 17:23:45 GMT -5
Looks like you got a great deal with those panels Jim!
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Post by aDave on Jan 16, 2019 18:07:36 GMT -5
jamesp, what is the core of the panels made of, and how much weight will one carry unsupported and laying flat like you have them. Or, are they not going to be carrying weight?
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Post by fernwood on Jan 17, 2019 4:09:43 GMT -5
Great idea, using the lift.
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Post by jamesp on Jan 17, 2019 9:51:57 GMT -5
4PM 5 last panels need trimming to length/width before installing. The support beams were liberally caulked before placing each panel with GE Silicon. Further caulking from top at seams, aerosol foam around the entire edge to seal off gaps and insect/mouse tunnels. aDave those panels are filled with polyurethane foam, sandwiched with 22 to 26 gauge steel and are amazingly strong. 6 big men can stand in the center of an 8 foot panel supported at the ends. But if making a living space on top of them a steel center support at 4 feet is welded in. HankRocks The lift was lifting less than half it's rated capacity but the load was extended enough to be right at maximum lift capability. We limited the number of panels per lift. But it is a comical set up and would have tied a knot in an OSHA inspector's panties for sure. The lift did not have enough lift so me and Candler had to do a lot of tugging to get them up on the deck.    |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 17, 2019 10:03:58 GMT -5
jamesp, how do those boards do with moisture? Do you have to seal them or anything? Love to watch your projects. Those panels are made of steel and polyurethane foam and are quite inert and resistant to moisture. I have seen them used as dock floatation for instance. Best to caulk the joints to restrict air flow and bug travel but they install easily without fasteners. Like a click tongue and groove click floor. Walls-floors-pitched roof, they are used to build ice houses and walk-in coolers with only screwed in sheet metal gussets and resist 120MPH wind !! Gotta keep you amused Tela  . Must say those panels(at $38 each) are probably the fastest cheapest construction material known. They are distributed out of Astor Florida and there is many a house built out of them there. They can be skinned with any type siding, windows installed, etc. |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 17, 2019 10:21:48 GMT -5
Looks like you got a great deal with those panels Jim! I believe they can put 80 panels on a freight truck Beef. These are 5 inch thick. He sells 3-4-6 inch thick for the same $38 for a 8' X 3.5' panel. I think I have installed about 140 of them on this building, a cabin and another barn plus a couple of well houses. He sells 10' lengths of angle trim and end trim that allows fastening them together using self tapping screws making it possible to build an entire house out of them. They make a great pitched roof and sheet metal roofing can be screwed directly to them. An example of using 3 inch thick panels with sheet metal roofing on a front porch. R-24 insulation, stays cool. These panels were ordered pre-cut to 10' 2 1/2" and I installed the entire roof by myself in 2 days on a pre-welded support. Roofing was screwed down in another 2 days with one helper.  |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 17, 2019 10:31:33 GMT -5
Great idea, using the lift. Doubt we would have finished the job with out the lift fernwood. Not to mention injury risk or very sore bodies. My wife walked out there and wanted to video our charade using the lift so we politely put her to work pushing with a stick to help get them on high. She is always the smart ass and this is her man cave so we cut her no slack he he. I hope to trim the last 5 panels and finish installing the panels today. Can't let it sit till done, might be a mental(illness) thing. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 17, 2019 10:44:52 GMT -5
jamesp , how do those boards do with moisture? Do you have to seal them or anything? Love to watch your projects. Those panels are made of steel and polyurethane foam and are quite inert and resistant to moisture. I have seen them used as dock floatation for instance. Best to caulk the joints to restrict air flow and bug travel but they install easily without fasteners. Like a click tongue and groove click floor. Walls-floors-pitched roof, they are used to build ice houses and walk-in coolers with only screwed in sheet metal gussets and resist 120MPH wind !! Gotta keep you amused Tela . Must say those panels(at $38 each) are probably the fastest cheapest construction material known. They are distributed out of Astor Florida and there is many a house built out of them there. They can be skinned with any type siding, windows installed, etc. Thanks James. I only asked because it's new to me. Never heard of it before. |
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Post by jamesp on Jan 17, 2019 11:24:27 GMT -5
It is a rarely seen or used building medium rockjunquie. And yes I have built some buildings but am certainly not an experienced builder like a contractor that does it daily. Many builder type people have seen this building and were surprised that such a panel existed. I would think that these things would cost 6 to 10 fold if buying them new so the Florida outlet is the way to buy. |
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