julieooly
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 10:42:25 GMT -5
I took an update for my Iphone last night and editing now includes horizontal and vertical options. This may be a GREAT tool to use when balancing pictures of cabochons.
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 9, 2019 10:57:17 GMT -5
I took an update for my Iphone last night and editing now includes horizontal and vertical options. This may be a GREAT tool to use when balancing pictures of cabochons. For etsy, they prefer images a certain way. Will that interfere with cropping for etsy? |
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 11:04:01 GMT -5
I took an update for my Iphone last night and editing now includes horizontal and vertical options. This may be a GREAT tool to use when balancing pictures of cabochons. For etsy, they prefer images a certain way. Will that interfere with cropping for etsy? I don't think so. For Etsy I make my images square and resize them up to 2500 pix. I'm gonna play with it later toady if I get a chance. I probably should have waited until I had some examples to post this, I get excited easy  ll |
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 11:14:06 GMT -5
I took an update for my Iphone last night and editing now includes horizontal and vertical options. This may be a GREAT tool to use when balancing pictures of cabochons. For etsy, they prefer images a certain way. Will that interfere with cropping for etsy?      Ok first shot is simply cropped. Then you should be able to see what I did from the ss’s. Notice how the weave of the placement changes. |
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 11:14:59 GMT -5
Weird they posted out of order but you can figure it out
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 9, 2019 11:19:58 GMT -5
Weird they posted out of order but you can figure it out I really hate to say this, but that weave is really distracting. You aren't considering switching to that are you? |
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Post by parfive on Oct 9, 2019 11:54:52 GMT -5
Assuming “0” is the original pic, what’s the point of faking perspective (i.e. distortion) with the other four?
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 12:12:44 GMT -5
Weird they posted out of order but you can figure it out I really hate to say this, but that weave is really distracting. You aren't considering switching to that are you? Lol no! That was the first cab I grabbed and the kitchen placemat. It was a great reference for showing what the different options actually did to the photo. |
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 12:16:46 GMT -5
Assuming “0” is the original pic, what’s the point of faking perspective (i.e. distortion) with the other four? I really hadn’t considered that the images would appear fake. I spend an enormous amount of time taking and sizing and straightening photos. My goal is to best represent what I sell not to try to fake anybody out. I was hoping the new functions would speed things up and make the overall process of editing and straightening easier. Faking images will just increase the likelihood of returns and bad reviews. |
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Post by parfive on Oct 9, 2019 12:56:28 GMT -5
Sorry, I wasn’t trying to imply deceipt, but the question remains . . .
Assuming “0” is the original pic, what’s the point of false perspective (i.e. distortion) with the other four?
Do you think anything was improved?
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 14:17:52 GMT -5
Well, I take 90% of my pictures at the kitchen table in the natural sunlight which means I have to place my body or the camera between the sun and the cab. It's tricky especially because I don't use a tripod because I have to change the angle of the camera for each individual picture to "force" the glare of the light up to the tip of the cabochon. Plus the light is moving across the room constantly requiring minute changes. I just think it may be a great new feature to improve the way I do photography. I'll have to take a series and mess around with it to see how much distortion is actually happening if I use this during editing. The +/- 25 is a huge change. I'll post some pics here over the next few days and see what ya'll think.
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Post by fernwood on Oct 9, 2019 15:02:08 GMT -5
What Iphone do you have?
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 16:03:20 GMT -5
6s with 13.1.2 update. Model A1633. The internet says the camera does all this stuff but it's Greek to me Main Camera Single 12 MP, f/2.2, 29mm (standard), 1/3", 1.22µm, PDAF Features Dual-LED dual-tone flash, HDR Video 2160p@30fps, 1080p@60fps,1080p@120fps, 720p@240fps |
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Post by fernwood on Oct 9, 2019 16:13:45 GMT -5
Interesting. I recently upgraded to an 8. My camera does not have those features.
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Post by parfive on Oct 9, 2019 16:28:04 GMT -5
I spend an enormous amount of time taking and sizing and straightening photos. Well, I take 90% of my pictures at the kitchen table in the natural sunlight which means I have to place my body or the camera between the sun and the cab. It's tricky especially because I don't use a tripod because I have to change the angle of the camera for each individual picture to "force" the glare of the light up to the tip of the cabochon. Plus the light is moving across the room constantly requiring minute changes. A consistent and repeatable setup would save you time and effort, which is why many around here use a light box or tent and some form of artificial light. Also takes passing clouds out of the equation.  rockjunquie – what’s your (very effective) setup? |
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 9, 2019 16:49:48 GMT -5
I spend an enormous amount of time taking and sizing and straightening photos. Well, I take 90% of my pictures at the kitchen table in the natural sunlight which means I have to place my body or the camera between the sun and the cab. It's tricky especially because I don't use a tripod because I have to change the angle of the camera for each individual picture to "force" the glare of the light up to the tip of the cabochon. Plus the light is moving across the room constantly requiring minute changes. A consistent and repeatable setup would save you time and effort, which is why many around here use a light box or tent and some form of artificial light. Also takes passing clouds out of the equation. rockjunquie – what’s your (very effective) setup? Well, I'll tell you what I do, but I have to preface it with the fact that I would LOVE a great sunny window for natural light. But, I don't have one.
For jewelry, I use a light tent with color correct bulbs. It sits on top of my dresser at a great height for my back. It is always set up. I always use a tripod.
However, for my cab pictures, I take one in the light tent to eliminate reflections and such and then the rest are at my picnic table under a tree. Those images require no post production. I also use a polarizing filter, which julieooly make want to look into. The light tent pictures require some tweaking with Photoshop Elements. Overall, I prefer to use the light tent for ease, but the outside pictures show the colors more correctly, despite the color correct bulbs.
I use a Nikon DSLR inside and a Canon Powershot outside. The Nikon I use manual settings and adjust frequently as needed for exposure. The Canon I use automatic settings.
I have been taking pictures for internet sales for almost 20 years. I began with a box with tissue paper sides and moved onto a translucent trashcan, inverted with a hole in the bottom for the lens. I have been using the light tent for at least 7 years. It's taken a LONG time to get to the point where taking pictures isn't such a chore.
julieooly , you can use a tent at your table, too, or a polarizing filter which will help you deal with glare and reflections. And, thanks parfive for the complement. Don't think I didn't notice. |
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Oct 9, 2019 17:18:15 GMT -5
Interesting. I recently upgraded to an 8. My camera does not have those features. It is not really a camera feature. It is a new feature in the EDIT portion of the phones software. Upgrading to the latest 13.1.2 is what gets it. On mine I hit edit then hit the crop function. While in the crop function icons to change perspective now show up. Chuck |
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 18:09:37 GMT -5
A consistent and repeatable setup would save you time and effort, which is why many around here use a light box or tent and some form of artificial light. Also takes passing clouds out of the equation. rockjunquie – what’s your (very effective) setup? Although there is plenty of room for improvement, I'm actually very pleased with where my photography is for now which is why I was excited about the new editing feature on my phone. When I got into all this cab shop stuff I was completely oblivious to the amount of work the listings entailed. Since I named my shop "Sunshines" I kinda feel obligated to use natural light for my photography. Actually I prefer it to the artificial lights that I was using before I moved up to the kitchen. To me, the natural light is much more authentic than the artificial light. I see an enormous amount of EXCELLENT artificial light photography being used on Etsy for cabochons and although the pictures look amazing it still leaves me wondering how realistic they may be. That, and the fact that I think I'm wasting an excellent resource by using artificial light will hopefully lead me to a more perfected look for the shop. I am kind of interested to see what the angles of the winter sun will bring. |
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Post by julieooly on Oct 9, 2019 18:13:18 GMT -5
A consistent and repeatable setup would save you time and effort, which is why many around here use a light box or tent and some form of artificial light. Also takes passing clouds out of the equation. rockjunquie – what’s your (very effective) setup? Well, I'll tell you what I do, but I have to preface it with the fact that I would LOVE a great sunny window for natural light. But, I don't have one.
For jewelry, I use a light tent with color correct bulbs. It sits on top of my dresser at a great height for my back. It is always set up. I always use a tripod.
However, for my cab pictures, I take one in the light tent to eliminate reflections and such and then the rest are at my picnic table under a tree. Those images require no post production. I also use a polarizing filter, which julieooly make want to look into. The light tent pictures require some tweaking with Photoshop Elements. Overall, I prefer to use the light tent for ease, but the outside pictures show the colors more correctly, despite the color correct bulbs.
I use a Nikon DSLR inside and a Canon Powershot outside. The Nikon I use manual settings and adjust frequently as needed for exposure. The Canon I use automatic settings.
I have been taking pictures for internet sales for almost 20 years. I began with a box with tissue paper sides and moved onto a translucent trashcan, inverted with a hole in the bottom for the lens. I have been using the light tent for at least 7 years. It's taken a LONG time to get to the point where taking pictures isn't such a chore.
julieooly , you can use a tent at your table, too, or a polarizing filter which will help you deal with glare and reflections. And, thanks parfive for the complement. Don't think I didn't notice. Thanks Tela, I hadn't considered using the tents at the kitchen table. I wonder if I can get a polarizing filter for my phone. I've been super happy using it over my Canon lately. I killed my phone a couple months ago and the insurance replacement camera was way better than my old one. If I had this phone in the beginning I may not have bought the camera. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Oct 9, 2019 23:21:19 GMT -5
Thanks Tela, I hadn't considered using the tents at the kitchen table. I wonder if I can get a polarizing filter for my phone. I've been super happy using it over my Canon lately. I killed my phone a couple months ago and the insurance replacement camera was way better than my old one. If I had this phone in the beginning I may not have bought the camera. I've seen a lot of really impressive pictures taken with phones. They certainly rival what any stand alone camera can do. I don't have a cell, so I have cameras- it's more work. LOL!
I don't know if you can get a polarizing filter for your phone but I have seen other types for phones, so maybe.
You can get tents super cheap now and most of them are pop ups, so they store easy. Another suggestion is to get a reflector. Also cheap. You may need it in the winter. It will help fill in dead spots or redirect your light onto the subject. I use a silver one sometimes.
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