newuser1749
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Post by newuser1749 on Oct 14, 2020 22:10:36 GMT -5
Hello. Im new to rock carving/grinder or whatever. Im looking to grind things such as agate but i'm on a budget of about $300. Im looking at this bench grinder Delta Power Tools 23-196 6-Inch Variable Speed Bench Grinder www.amazon.com/dp/B00HRM509A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_607HFbSF0ZPRFbut I'm not sure this will do the job. Can anybody recommend any beginner rock grinders? That would be greatly appreciated.
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on Oct 14, 2020 22:18:22 GMT -5
Hello. Im new to rock carving/grinder or whatever. Im looking to grind things such as agate but i'm on a budget of about $300. Im looking at this bench grinder Delta Power Tools 23-196 6-Inch Variable Speed Bench Grinder www.amazon.com/dp/B00HRM509A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_607HFbSF0ZPRFbut I'm not sure this will do the job. Can anybody recommend any beginner rock grinders? That would be greatly appreciated. Hi, welcome to the forum. The Delta unit in the amazon link is not going to do the job because for one rocks should be ground wet and those machines are not suitable for wet. Secondly I think they spin way too fast - you'd be tossing rocks and grinding your fingers off on that thing. My recommendation would be on your budget look for a used lapidary grinder - check Craigslist and FB Marketplace every day - I see them all the time. If you can come up with a two wheel unit and put a diamond wheel grinding on one side and a expando SiC belts wheel on the other there is quite a bit you could do with it.
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newuser1749
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Post by newuser1749 on Oct 15, 2020 7:24:54 GMT -5
Hello. Im new to rock carving/grinder or whatever. Im looking to grind things such as agate but i'm on a budget of about $300. Im looking at this bench grinder Delta Power Tools 23-196 6-Inch Variable Speed Bench Grinder www.amazon.com/dp/B00HRM509A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_607HFbSF0ZPRFbut I'm not sure this will do the job. Can anybody recommend any beginner rock grinders? That would be greatly appreciated. Hi, welcome to the forum. The Delta unit in the amazon link is not going to do the job because for one rocks should be ground wet and those machines are not suitable for wet. Secondly I think they spin way too fast - you'd be tossing rocks and grinding your fingers off on that thing. My recommendation would be on your budget look for a used lapidary grinder - check Craigslist and FB Marketplace every day - I see them all the time. If you can come up with a two wheel unit and put a diamond wheel grinding on one side and a expando SiC belts wheel on the other there is quite a bit you could do with it. This bench grinder says it has a "Built in water tray" and it can control speeds from 2000-3400, is that still to fast, and I'd imagine I would have to change the wheel right?
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Post by parfive on Oct 15, 2020 10:53:21 GMT -5
This bench grinder says it has a "Built in water tray" That’s only useful for dipping a screwdriver or chisel or whatever you’re grinding to cool it. It does nothing to control dust/sparks from the actual grinding.
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Post by parfive on Oct 15, 2020 11:17:16 GMT -5
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Post by stardiamond on Oct 16, 2020 23:15:59 GMT -5
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Tommy
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Post by Tommy on Oct 17, 2020 19:22:44 GMT -5
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NevadaBill
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Post by NevadaBill on Nov 9, 2020 17:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Nov 10, 2020 9:35:37 GMT -5
The grinders all sold pretty quickly.
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fossilbrain
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Post by fossilbrain on Nov 26, 2020 20:20:08 GMT -5
I empathize with people wanting to do things cheaper at first than they can later. I must suggest do not try this, you'll die and all that good stuff. There is probably risk of electric shock. I used a quality "ground fault interrupt" short circuit breaker unit with the following and it never tripped, buzzed, or arced. Years ago I created a wet grinder out of a dry grinder (that amazingly works to this day) and I made cabs on it, that I posted here, until finally getting a cab machine used for $300. I set up a drizzle of fluid -- using water soluble oil lube like for glass cutting or metal cutting. This helped not destroy the bearings with instant rust. I also drizzled oil in the bearings from time to time, and years and years later I still; use it (albeit noisy) for sharpening steel. I created a lot of cabs on it. Yes a couple went flying against the floor: It worked best for the relatively flatter kind of cabs without big rounded domes unless you wanted to sand and polish all night long by hand later, which was already a requirement here, with the limitations of 2 hard, coarse wheels. I did buy finer, silicon carbide wheels, with the existing aluminum oxide stock ones degrading immediately. I cut preforms with a tile saw. Below are a few I cut on that Ryboi: I expected it to immediately rust out. Surprised everyone and a few others copied the idea. It's definitely a temporary "better than nothing" arrangement I used. Ryobi owes me nothing. I later got my second favorite kind, the rubber drum and sanding belt kind of cabber, vs. diamond wheels, for $300. They're great in a way (I love how you can mush the cab into the rubber spinning drum a bit for smoothing domes) but silicon carbide belts take a while to grind away material, and diamond belts are pricey and go bad. Amazing when they're new, tho, preferabe to me over hard diamond Genie wheels etc., but more costly over time (cheaper up front, esp. with a used machine to start with) ...and so anyway then I was able to do more domed work with that cab machine:
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Post by parfive on Nov 26, 2020 22:49:43 GMT -5
fossilbrainLove the drip setup . . . very Louis Pasteur 19th century chem lab.
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Nov 27, 2020 11:19:09 GMT -5
Yeah, there was an old Lortone SA-8, but it was just the arbor mounted in the factory housing. No motor or wheels.
He was asking $200 if picked up locally. Would have been good for a local who already had a spare motor, etc, lying around.
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NevadaBill
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Post by NevadaBill on Nov 27, 2020 14:36:18 GMT -5
I'll try not to ninja this thread, but .. Thanks Vince (noticed you changed your name! hummingbirdstones2 ). Yup, that was the grinder I was referring to. Excellent shape it was in, and for a small amount more someone could have a very nice two wheel setup! I appreciate the response. fossilbrain , that is a neat story. The contraption looks like something I would try to fashion together as well. To quote Plato : "Necessity is the mother of invention". I like the grinder you came up with. [edit] It looks exactly like a Raytech Gem Maker GSP-8. A steal for 3 Benjamins if you ask me. The 4 wheel expando-drum setup. I actually relate to you about being able to push the stone in to the softer expando-wheel and shape rock. For that reason I wish I had room for another grinder just such as yours so that I could only mount SiC belts of various grits to do such work. And have another grinder with only diamond wheels on it alone. Some day perhaps!
If I had my way, then I would have one grinder for processing hard stones, and another set up for just soft stones.
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