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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 4, 2021 8:40:38 GMT -5
Do you pronounce it Stee ven or Stef aun? In my head I always think Stef aun. Here in the States, it’s as you imagine. The German pronunciation is Shte faun Ahhhhh..... I thought it was German. OK, good to know. Now I don't have to rethink it.  |
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Post by stephan on Feb 4, 2021 8:49:09 GMT -5
By that same token, are you Tee-la, Teh-la or Tella? In my head it’s the first one
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Post by rockjunquie on Feb 4, 2021 8:53:18 GMT -5
By that same token, are you Tee-la, Teh-la or Tella? In my head it’s the first one Correct. Tee la. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 4, 2021 10:30:52 GMT -5
rockjunquie - stephanI used to tell people, "Yes, it's spelled J-A-S-O-N and it's pronounced Hah-keem" just to see what they'd say...
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Post by lpl on Feb 4, 2021 18:44:06 GMT -5
Jason, I think all of the advice you have received is spot on. Orange peel is a bugger. A light touch, helps. Worn wheels too. But you have a slant crabber, so that’s not a option. Do you use an extender fluid? Are your stones getting too hot? I’ve given up completely on diamond polish for most stones, I like tin oxide on felt. It’s taken me a long time to settle in to that. Keep trying different things. Your final polish will get there.
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 4, 2021 19:16:01 GMT -5
Jason, I think all of the advice you have received is spot on. Orange peel is a bugger. A light touch, helps. Worn wheels too. But you have a slant crabber, so that’s not a option. Do you use an extender fluid? Are your stones getting too hot? I’ve given up completely on diamond polish for most stones, I like tin oxide on felt. It’s taken me a long time to settle in to that. Keep trying different things. Your final polish will get there. Oh yeh...the stones get screaming hot on the buffing pad. I wasn't using extender fluid on the felt... Now I'm going to guess that's a major oops? |
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Feb 4, 2021 20:20:25 GMT -5
Some stones want to get hot. Others, not so much. We were taught that Jade likes the heat. Maybe others will have more input. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 4, 2021 20:24:45 GMT -5
Jason, I think all of the advice you have received is spot on. Orange peel is a bugger. A light touch, helps. Worn wheels too. But you have a slant crabber, so that’s not a option. Do you use an extender fluid? Are your stones getting too hot? I’ve given up completely on diamond polish for most stones, I like tin oxide on felt. It’s taken me a long time to settle in to that. Keep trying different things. Your final polish will get there. Oh yeh...the stones get screaming hot on the buffing pad. I wasn't using extender fluid on the felt... Now I'm going to guess that's a major oops? How soon we forget, huh? We had this conversation about extender fluid with diamond paste way back when you first got your machine.  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 4, 2021 20:39:20 GMT -5
Some stones want to get hot. Others, not so much. We were taught that Jade likes the heat. Maybe others will have more input. Thanks Vince. I'm thinking the Silver Lace Onyx wasn't liking the heat. I'm gonna tell it to stay out of the kitchen.  I definitely want to try and fix these two particular cabs. I will try not to let them get hot like I did the first time. Oh yeh...the stones get screaming hot on the buffing pad. I wasn't using extender fluid on the felt... Now I'm going to guess that's a major oops? How soon we forget, huh? We had this conversation about extender fluid with diamond paste way back when you first got your machine. Actually I didn't forget. I thought the reason for using the extender fluid was to act as a medium in order for the paste to stick to the felt. We talked about it with regards to the felt pads when I was using the dremel. The diamond paste was sticking to this felt buffing pad on the slant cabber, so I didn't think it was necessary... Now, with this conversation, I'm guessing it's not so much a medium for the paste to stick to the felt as it is actually a lubricating agent in order to create less friction??? |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 4, 2021 21:04:59 GMT -5
Some stones want to get hot. Others, not so much. We were taught that Jade likes the heat. Maybe others will have more input. Thanks Vince. I'm thinking the Silver Lace Onyx wasn't liking the heat. I'm gonna tell it to stay out of the kitchen. I definitely want to try and fix these two particular cabs. I will try not to let them get hot like I did the first time. How soon we forget, huh? We had this conversation about extender fluid with diamond paste way back when you first got your machine. Actually I didn't forget. I thought the reason for using the extender fluid was to act as a medium in order for the paste to stick to the felt. We talked about it with regards to the felt pads when I was using the dremel. The diamond paste was sticking to this felt buffing pad on the slant cabber, so I didn't think it was necessary... Now, with this conversation, I'm guessing it's not so much a medium for the paste to stick to the felt as it is actually a lubricating agent in order to create less friction??? You're right! It was when you were using the Dremel. Damn old age anyway.
You're correct. It's lubrication. Less friction and it helps spread the diamond paste out on your lap. You don't want a clump of diamonds putting a big old scratch on your polished stone.  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 4, 2021 21:36:46 GMT -5
Thanks Vince. I'm thinking the Silver Lace Onyx wasn't liking the heat. I'm gonna tell it to stay out of the kitchen. I definitely want to try and fix these two particular cabs. I will try not to let them get hot like I did the first time. Actually I didn't forget. I thought the reason for using the extender fluid was to act as a medium in order for the paste to stick to the felt. We talked about it with regards to the felt pads when I was using the dremel. The diamond paste was sticking to this felt buffing pad on the slant cabber, so I didn't think it was necessary... Now, with this conversation, I'm guessing it's not so much a medium for the paste to stick to the felt as it is actually a lubricating agent in order to create less friction??? You're right! It was when you were using the Dremel. Damn old age anyway.
You're correct. It's lubrication. Less friction and it helps spread the diamond paste out on your lap. You don't want a clump of diamonds putting a big old scratch on your polished stone. I've been sitting here thinking about this ever since I read yours and John's posts earlier. It makes a ton of sense! Arghhh. It should have occurred to me, dangit! Thanks to you and lpl for bringing this up. |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 4, 2021 21:53:24 GMT -5
You're right! It was when you were using the Dremel. Damn old age anyway.
You're correct. It's lubrication. Less friction and it helps spread the diamond paste out on your lap. You don't want a clump of diamonds putting a big old scratch on your polished stone. I've been sitting here thinking about this ever since I read yours and John's posts earlier. It makes a ton of sense! Arghhh. It should have occurred to me, dangit! Thanks to you and lpl for bringing this up. When I first started cutting opals and just had my flat lap, I used the Tech-10 polishing pad with diamond to polish them before I discovered cerium. I always had a plastic container with water in it nearby so I could dunk the stone to cool it off when it started getting too warm. Then I graduated to a really soft elk hide and cerium (smooth leather) to polish them. I've been a cerium lover ever since. Unfortunately, you can't find pre-made elk hide laps anymore. I haven't seen them in years. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 4, 2021 22:00:01 GMT -5
I've been sitting here thinking about this ever since I read yours and John's posts earlier. It makes a ton of sense! Arghhh. It should have occurred to me, dangit! Thanks to you and lpl for bringing this up. When I first started cutting opals and just had my flat lap, I used the Tech-10 polishing pad with diamond to polish them before I discovered cerium. I always had a plastic container with water in it nearby so I could dunk the stone to cool it off when it started getting too warm. Then I graduated to a really soft elk hide and cerium (smooth leather) to polish them. I've been a cerium lover ever since. Unfortunately, you can't find pre-made elk hide laps anymore. I haven't seen them in years. I know we have all kinds of elk out here in the Black Hills. I wonder if any of them would let me rub a stone on their butt for a minute???  ( I thought that emoji looked like it had antlers! LOL) |
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Post by NDK on Feb 4, 2021 23:22:33 GMT -5
jasoninsd Vince explained a great way to save $ on laps. The way I did mine back when I built my flat lap was I got craft foam sheets and glued the leather on them. I then cut the hole in the center and use am aluminum master lap underneath. Here's the trick I figured out. The foam/leather is stiff enough that it doesn't need to be glued to the rigid lap. I just leave the aluminum lap on the machine and switch out the foam/leather pad to go through the stages. (If that's confusing I can get pictures tomorrow evening)
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 4, 2021 23:42:53 GMT -5
jasoninsd Vince explained a great way to save $ on laps. The way I did mine back when I built my flat lap was I got craft foam sheets and glued the leather on them. I then cut the hole in the center and use am aluminum master lap underneath. Here's the trick I figured out. The foam/leather is stiff enough that it doesn't need to be glued to the rigid lap. I just leave the aluminum lap on the machine and switch out the foam/leather pad to go through the stages. (If that's confusing I can get pictures tomorrow evening) Thanks Nate. I think I know exactly what you're saying. I will be checking into sourcing the aluminum. I figure my dad probably has a lead on that. Otherwise, I could just pick up another acrylic backing plate for $25. Did you have a local source for your leather, or did you get it online? |
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Post by NDK on Feb 5, 2021 0:13:00 GMT -5
Another option for the master lap would be to use a cutting board & cut your own.
The leather I got from a member here, she worked at a place that did car seats and was allowed to take scraps home as long as she didn't sell it. So she gave away boxed of leather... I have bought leather at hobby lobby and Michael's for sheaths,so that would be an option.
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 5, 2021 0:17:16 GMT -5
Another option for the master lap would be to use a cutting board & cut your own. The leather I got from a member here, she worked at a place that did car seats and was allowed to take scraps home as long as she didn't sell it. So she gave away boxed of leather... I have bought leather at hobby lobby and Michael's for sheaths,so that would be an option. Wow. It never occurred to me about the cutting board! Genius! We've got some local boot maker shops as well as horse tack shops. They might have a lead on some leather as well. Nate, thanks a bunch...again! |
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Post by NDK on Feb 5, 2021 0:23:59 GMT -5
You're welcome Jason, I'm glad to help.
Honestly if it's being used dry even plywood would work for the lap.
I would think the boot makers or tack shops may be happy to give a few scraps away. Especially if you tell them what you're using it for.
Good luck!
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Feb 5, 2021 9:34:27 GMT -5
jasoninsd - do you have the 8" or 6" flat lap? Let me know and we'll send you elk and cow hide rounds for your laps. PM me your address.
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 5, 2021 9:37:37 GMT -5
jasoninsd - do you have the 8" or 6" flat lap? Let me know and we'll send you elk and cow hide rounds for your laps. PM me your address. I'm gonna owe you and Vince a dinner or something!!! Holy Cow that's awesome. (See what I did there?  ) Thank you both so so much! I'll shoot you a message. |
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