phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Aug 21, 2005 9:54:58 GMT -5
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Post by gaetzchamp on Aug 21, 2005 10:03:39 GMT -5
Pho-
Great idea. I can't wait to read thru the pages.
Did you say "28 scoops?" HOLY COW. How long are you thinking this will take from start to finish?
Gaetz
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ArkieRockhound
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Post by ArkieRockhound on Aug 21, 2005 11:11:42 GMT -5
At least, starting with Pet. Wood, it should shape up pretty fast. Not like waiting for agate.
Trish
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Aug 21, 2005 11:57:13 GMT -5
Well....here I am changing the plugs..have to switch tires too as I am out of wood..had just enough wood left to cut plugs for a smaller tire so we are making the change now...12:00 CST. Hopefully now that I have a much better fit on the plugs it won't leak so bad....
Gaetz..I have no clue as to how long this will take...just have to play it by ear for now....
Pho
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Rose
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Post by Rose on Aug 21, 2005 12:51:40 GMT -5
Looking good phoenix, impressive design ! 28 tablespoons !!!  Good luck, can't wait to see the results  |
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Aug 21, 2005 15:36:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry did you say 20 LBS!!!!!!!!!! Man you ain't messing around!
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Aug 21, 2005 15:38:45 GMT -5
Damn I am so frustrated...those plugs are still leaking. I even put caulk around them. Gonna have to go back to the drawing board and work something up on that. Thinking some sore of rubber seal.....in the meantime..tumble on.....
Pho
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Post by parfive on Aug 21, 2005 20:03:17 GMT -5
Hey Pho - What if you sealed up one side permanently, and just used the other for access. That might cut the leak problem in half right away.
For the permanent side, how about a piece of rubber roofing (EDPM) glued to the sidewall like a bicycle patch.
On the door side, maybe about a dozen 1/4-20 stainless bolts sticking out, slip the plywood or plexi over the studs and snug up all the nuts. If you drill holes smaller than 1/4" in the side of the tire, and force the 1/4-20's through from the inside, they should be held snug and not fall out. Something for a gasket would help too. Could even do this on both sides.
And then some baby moon hubcaps to really dress it up.
Rich
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Aug 21, 2005 20:20:52 GMT -5
Par...ya got a good idea there..something I had not thought about. Will look into doing that.
Sealing one side permanate would be ideal. Thanks for the input..
Pho
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Post by Cher on Aug 21, 2005 21:05:48 GMT -5
Baby moons on a tumbler, now that would be classy.
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Post by rockyraccoon on Aug 21, 2005 22:28:36 GMT -5
tom this is looking very interesting. keep up the good work!
kim
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WarrenA
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Post by WarrenA on Aug 21, 2005 23:00:29 GMT -5
would the gasket out of a 5 gal paint pail be about the right size?
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joanna
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Post by joanna on Aug 22, 2005 4:46:23 GMT -5
How about cutting some rubber (like from a heavy inner tube) and sticking it onto the plywood, lining it entirely? Sort of like what the 15 lb thumblers have on the lids. The rubber on rubber might form the tight seal your looking for and keep the plywood from swelling and eventually disintegrating when it gets wet.
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Post by creativeminded on Aug 22, 2005 8:53:27 GMT -5
That is a wonderful idea. That is quite a tumbler you have there.
Tami
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stefan
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Post by stefan on Aug 22, 2005 12:44:51 GMT -5
I think a rubber liner is in order- Try a little Murphy's oil soap on the bead- it usually seal things up pretty good!
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Aug 22, 2005 15:46:09 GMT -5
ok...the plugs leaked like they were being paid to so I replaced them with a new plug cut out of a 2X12 at a 30 degree angle. I had to use two tubes of roofing tar to get it to seal right but I think it is gonna work. Will know in a little while.
Pho
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Post by parfive on Aug 22, 2005 20:46:33 GMT -5
Hey Pho - I shudder to think of the mess you might have on your hands, or anything else, from that roofing tar.
Here's a crazy idea. Find a beachball or basketball or something thats a good fit inside the tire and blow it up tight, so you end up with a ball inside a donut.
Alternate barrel - Home Depot or local lumberyard probably sells a plastic drum with a screw on lid that's used to mix one bag of cement or concrete with water. You put the cement and water in and roll it around to mix it. Might even have vanes in it to help the mix, or tumble.
Rich
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phoenix1647
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Post by phoenix1647 on Aug 22, 2005 21:37:29 GMT -5
Yeah..that tar is no fun to work with for sure. I am thinking about getting a golf cart rim and put it in there. Those can be changed with only a couple of screwdrivers so that would not be a problem.
I don't think a beach ball or something like that would work because the rocks tumble and would hit it and possible put a hole in it but the thought was good.
I am always lookinng at different ideas for this thing. One never knows what will work until they try...
Pho
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rollingstone
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Post by rollingstone on Aug 22, 2005 22:43:00 GMT -5
Pho, you are probably already aware of this link, but just in case not, I'll post it. It consists of a 19 page pdf document on how to build and operate a 50 lb truck-tire tumbler, plus a shorter document on design modifications to the "door" of the tumbler made 4 years after his original design. The pdf document includes a section discussing the leakage issue and how to deal with it. www.acc.umu.se/~widmark/lwtrumld.html |
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Post by xenaswolf on Aug 23, 2005 4:19:53 GMT -5
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