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Post by knave on Dec 6, 2021 11:46:15 GMT -5
I see now they sell a Nova version very good.
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 6, 2021 11:48:16 GMT -5
I see now they sell a Nova version very good. After doing the math, it just made sense (to me and for me) to go with the Nova upgrade.
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Post by Tommy on Dec 6, 2021 11:54:54 GMT -5
Congratulations jasoninsd! That's a beauty and although I'm not sure how your cabochons could look any better than they have been I'm still excited to see what you can do with it. I thought about offering you some of my old burned out 6" nova wheels just to practice on but I think you are way past that level of skill already.
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Post by parfive on Dec 6, 2021 12:38:27 GMT -5
Cool beans, Jason. I see you cranked out a bunch o' beauts as soon as you plugged it in.
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Post by parfive on Dec 6, 2021 12:39:12 GMT -5
I don't think the DP hard wheels are anything special compared to cheaper alternatives, but the Nova wheels are really good once broken in. With all that said, if I were buying my first cabbing machine, I very well might choose the one Jason got over a Genie. I'd get the stock Kingsley cabber. I don't think the Galaxy/Nova upgrade is worth $530.
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 6, 2021 15:00:41 GMT -5
Congratulations jasoninsd ! That's a beauty and although I'm not sure how your cabochons could look any better than they have been I'm still excited to see what you can do with it. I thought about offering you some of my old burned out 6" nova wheels just to practice on but I think you are way past that level of skill already. Thanks Tommy! I have several members on here whose skill level I'm chasing...so I know I still have a long way to go to get where I'd like to be...and where I think I can be. I seriously appreciate you thinking about me on the Nova wheels...we're going to see how quickly I burn out mine! LOL Cool beans, Jason. I see you cranked out a bunch o' beauts as soon as you plugged it in. Thank you so very much! We'll see if the trend continues. I don't think the DP hard wheels are anything special compared to cheaper alternatives, but the Nova wheels are really good once broken in. With all that said, if I were buying my first cabbing machine, I very well might choose the one Jason got over a Genie. I'd get the stock Kingsley cabber. I don't think the Galaxy/Nova upgrade is worth $530. I think it's pretty cool that there are numerous views with regards to different wheels. I truly appreciate you giving your opinion/experience on it. I've definitely heard both ends of the spectrum on this one.
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Post by stardiamond on Dec 6, 2021 16:49:01 GMT -5
The only thing that matters is whether a person prefers drippers or geysers. What is bought is a 6 wheel arbor. As the wheels wear they will get replaced by different brands and possibly different grits. I prefer Geysers but as long is there enough water on the wheels it doesn't matter. For hard wheels jadecarver or top are better and cheaper than galaxy. For soft wheels, I like johnsonbrothers. They are cheaper than Nova and perform well. I don't know if they will last as long as Nova, but the price difference is considerable. I use to search ebay for oddball offerings of Nova wheels and would find some but not recently.
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Post by Jugglerguy on Dec 6, 2021 18:02:22 GMT -5
I think you're going to love that machine. I'm having really good time with mine.
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Post by perkins17 on Dec 6, 2021 18:59:18 GMT -5
It took that long? 😃 I can't wait to see more of your cabs! My setup is probably below freezing right now so I'm not sure about how much longer I can cab. Yours looks nice and warm! (I am not jealous, I am not jealous...) 🤣 I knew before I got it I wasn't going to set it up outside...it was 5 degrees this morning...and there's no way I want to have this sit idle all winter. Does it come with DP wheels!?? Galaxy Diamond Wheels included: 80,220 (metal bond) Nova Resin Diamond Wheels: 280,600,1200,3000 (resin bond) Discs included: 360 Diamond Full face, polishing disc pre-charged with cerium oxide Mine is in the garage which is uninsulated. We got like 6 inches of snow today. I would go crazy if I had to let it sit!!!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 6, 2021 19:07:33 GMT -5
I think you're going to love that machine. I'm having really good time with mine. Yeah...I'm trying out a few things. I had some Teepee Canyon Agate nodules which I had wanted to face polish...so I did! LOL - I'm going to post pictures in the Teepee Canyon Agate thread...oh and a couple Fairburn Agates.
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Post by rmf on Dec 7, 2021 13:24:30 GMT -5
jasoninsd That looks like a great machine. Merry Christmas in deed!!!!
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Post by catskillrocks on Dec 7, 2021 15:41:34 GMT -5
Hey jasoninsd , congratulations on your new toy! In another thread I saw the cabs that you did on this machine and wow! Aside from the obvious, a wheeled machine beats a lap hands down in the fact that you don't need to stop cabbing, change to a new disk and repeat five or six times. I'm not jealous . Looking forward to what you make with this.
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Post by Rockindad on Dec 7, 2021 18:01:18 GMT -5
Looks great Jason, congrats! Here comes production mode.
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Post by holajonathan on Dec 7, 2021 18:14:48 GMT -5
Looks great Jason, congrats! Here comes production mode. Production and then hoarding, right jasoninsd? When are you going to start selling those? Share your beautiful creations with the world!
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Post by jasoninsd on Dec 7, 2021 18:24:50 GMT -5
jasoninsd That looks like a great machine. Merry Christmas in deed!!!! Thanks so much! I'm not sure how I got off the naughty list...but I'll take it! LOL Hey jasoninsd , congratulations on your new toy! In another thread I saw the cabs that you did on this machine and wow! Aside from the obvious, a wheeled machine beats a lap hands down in the fact that you don't need to stop cabbing, change to a new disk and repeat five or six times. I'm not jealous . Looking forward to what you make with this. Thanks Don! Without a doubt this beats what I was able to do with the flat lap. I just posted some Botswana Agates from today in a new thread. Looks great Jason, congrats! Here comes production mode. Thanks Al! I've got to find a balance between making cabs and then wrapping them. Right now cabbing is taking the priority...for no other reason than it's really fun right now! LOL Looks great Jason, congrats! Here comes production mode. Production and then hoarding, right jasoninsd? When are you going to start selling those? Share your beautiful creations with the world! I know, I know! That's kinda the same thing my wife had been saying. LOL Soon...very very soon...
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Post by stardiamond on Dec 12, 2021 12:41:17 GMT -5
Hello Jasoninsd, thanks for posting this. Do you know what would be the difference between the 6" cabber and the 8" cabber? What could the 8" do that the 6" cannot? Is the main difference being that the wheels are further apart? Thanks. I have a 6" machine and an 8" machine. 8 inch wheels generally cut faster, last longer and are more expensive. The 8 " soft wheels are wider which makes work easier. I do most of my work with the 80 grit and an aggressive 80 grit 6" wheel can cut as fast an 8" 80 grit. I started with a 2 wheel 8", migrated to a 6" genie, then made my 8" five wheels and did everything there through 1200 grit and finished on the Genie. Currently I do everything on the Genie except the 600 and 1200 soft wheels where I use the 8" machine. The Genie is more comfortable and I found that the 6" top80 wheel cuts fast enough.
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Post by holajonathan on Dec 12, 2021 12:58:50 GMT -5
Hello Jasoninsd, thanks for posting this. Do you know what would be the difference between the 6" cabber and the 8" cabber? What could the 8" do that the 6" cannot? Is the main difference being that the wheels are further apart? Thanks. I have a 6" DP Genie, an 8" lapidary arbor / grinder, and an 8" cabbing machine. Here are my 2 cents. Main advantages of an 8" machine over a 6" machine: 1. 8" wheels tend to grind / sand / polish faster either because SFPM is faster (bigger wheel with same arbor speed) or because more surface area on a larger wheel takes longer to wear out. A larger wheel has less curvature at any given point, which means the resin sanding / polishing wheels will make more contact with the cab. This also makes 8" wheels faster in some cases. 2. 8" wheels are often cheaper than 6" in the long run if you take into account surface area. 3. If you want 2" wide cabbing wheels, they are easy to find in 8" diameter, but less common in 6" diameter, and don't fit well on most 6" machines. 4. 8" machines tend to have more powerful motors, although I've never found that my 6" Genie was lacking in power (newer 1/2 hp model) 5. 8" machines almost always have more space between the wheels. Biggest disadvantages of 8" vs. 6" are higher up front cost for machine and wheels, a bigger / heavier machine (not necessarily a negative), and 8" wheels are not as good at doing inside curves.
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Post by dshanpnw on Dec 12, 2021 14:13:50 GMT -5
Hello Jasoninsd, thanks for posting this. Do you know what would be the difference between the 6" cabber and the 8" cabber? What could the 8" do that the 6" cannot? Is the main difference being that the wheels are further apart? Thanks.
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Post by dshanpnw on Dec 12, 2021 14:21:44 GMT -5
Hello Jasoninsd, thanks for posting this. Do you know what would be the difference between the 6" cabber and the 8" cabber? What could the 8" do that the 6" cannot? Is the main difference being that the wheels are further apart? Thanks. I have a 6" machine and an 8" machine. 8 inch wheels generally cut faster, last longer and are more expensive. The 8 " soft wheels are wider which makes work easier. I do most of my work with the 80 grit and an aggressive 80 grit 6" wheel can cut as fast an 8" 80 grit. I started with a 2 wheel 8", migrated to a 6" genie, then made my 8" five wheels and did everything there through 1200 grit and finished on the Genie. Currently I do everything on the Genie except the 600 and 1200 soft wheels where I use the 8" machine. The Genie is more comfortable and I found that the 6" top80 wheel cuts fast enough. Hi Stardiamond, thanks so much. I did a comparison on the KN website and sent them an email. The 8" cabber takes up a lot of room too. I have time to think it over. I did think of the two wheel 8" also. I'm definitely narrowing down the choices.
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Post by dshanpnw on Dec 12, 2021 14:37:16 GMT -5
Hello Jasoninsd, thanks for posting this. Do you know what would be the difference between the 6" cabber and the 8" cabber? What could the 8" do that the 6" cannot? Is the main difference being that the wheels are further apart? Thanks. I have a 6" DP Genie, an 8" lapidary arbor / grinder, and an 8" cabbing machine. Here are my 2 cents. Main advantages of an 8" machine over a 6" machine: 1. 8" wheels tend to grind / sand / polish faster either because SFPM is faster (bigger wheel with same arbor speed) or because more surface area on a larger wheel takes longer to wear out. A larger wheel has less curvature at any given point, which means the resin sanding / polishing wheels will make more contact with the cab. This also makes 8" wheels faster in some cases. 2. 8" wheels are often cheaper than 6" in the long run if you take into account surface area. 3. If you want 2" wide cabbing wheels, they are easy to find in 8" diameter, but less common in 6" diameter, and don't fit well on most 6" machines. 4. 8" machines tend to have more powerful motors, although I've never found that my 6" Genie was lacking in power (newer 1/2 hp model) 5. 8" machines almost always have more space between the wheels. Biggest disadvantages of 8" vs. 6" are higher up front cost for machine and wheels, a bigger / heavier machine (not necessarily a negative), and 8" wheels are not as good at doing inside curves. Hi holajonathon, thank you so much for the comparisons. The 2" wide wheels on the 8" and space between them would be nice for some of the larger stones. This definitely makes it easier to choose the right one. Thanks. Seems I can't go wrong with the 6". I can always go large later if I have to.
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