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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 11, 2022 20:34:46 GMT -5
This came from a scrap box that Tommy sent (maybe I should just ask him ) so I apologize for the small sample. I really like the colors and the parallel runs, just curious if anyone had an ID so I could possibly find more.
Kind of an off white, sherbert, and pink coloration if the picture doesn't make that clear.
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 12, 2022 6:27:50 GMT -5
I can't tell from that picture, but is that some type of parallax banding in the white?
No help on the ID...but thought that part of the rock really looked cool from the picture...
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 12, 2022 7:24:26 GMT -5
jasoninsd I've heard of parallax but I don't quite understand it. Like a 3-D effect?
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 12, 2022 7:36:05 GMT -5
jasoninsd I've heard of parallax but I don't quite understand it. Like a 3-D effect? Parallax probably wasn't the right word. Here's the description for parallax: "When a banded agate forms with close alternating opaque and transparent bands, the light entering the agate can cast an observable shadow from one opaque band onto the next. As the parallel bands change their perceived angle, the appearance of movement and perception of depth occur." agateswithinclusions.com/agate-information/(Great website by the way!) If that's banding...that's got a certain name for it...and I'm at a loss right now trying to remember the right name, dang it! LOL
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 12, 2022 8:02:53 GMT -5
jasoninsd Alright, I think I get the gist of it. Thanks for the description and link.
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Post by Drummond Island Rocks on Jan 12, 2022 9:04:29 GMT -5
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 12, 2022 9:22:35 GMT -5
Oh wow, that is a gorgeous agate. I don't think the one I have is near that level. The video showing the parallax effect says it all.
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Post by Tommy on Jan 12, 2022 11:11:39 GMT -5
Son Of Beach I think I want to say that its a one-off piece I found at Burro Creek but my CRS is flaring up again. I'll poke around and see if I ever sold any cabs from it otherwise its probably a memory lost forever.
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Post by Peruano on Jan 12, 2022 15:07:33 GMT -5
At the risk of setting off hysteria and envy and unkind comments about my wisdom, I'm tempted to say the colors and pattern remind me of Howardite (i.e. rattlesnake jasper), but . . . 1. we know its rare; 2. we know Tommy is smart enough to not let it slip through his fingers; and 3. I'm going just on appearance. Mind you, I'm not saying its rattle snake jasper, it just has some inclination along that line for my aged eye.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 12, 2022 16:10:51 GMT -5
At the risk of setting off hysteria and envy and unkind comments about my wisdom, I'm tempted to say the colors and pattern remind me of Howardite (i.e. rattlesnake jasper), but . . . 1. we know its rare; 2. we know Tommy is smart enough to not let it slip through his fingers; and 3. I'm going just on appearance. Mind you, I'm not saying its rattle snake jasper, it just has some inclination along that line for my aged eye. Well that would be something, also would rule out getting more lol. I will say from a quick peak at images I can see the similarity...
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 12, 2022 20:45:58 GMT -5
At the risk of setting off hysteria and envy and unkind comments about my wisdom, I'm tempted to say the colors and pattern remind me of Howardite (i.e. rattlesnake jasper), but . . . 1. we know its rare; 2. we know Tommy is smart enough to not let it slip through his fingers; and 3. I'm going just on appearance. Mind you, I'm not saying its rattle snake jasper, it just has some inclination along that line for my aged eye. Well that would be something, also would rule out getting more lol. I will say from a quick peak at images I can see the similarity...
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Jan 13, 2022 9:58:53 GMT -5
The colors and patterns look very much like a chunk of "original dig" Howardite I got once.
I was bummed when I got it because it didn't look like the "classic" Howardite, but not after talking with a collector who used to sell the good stuff.
That guy said he'd only ever seen one piece of rough from the original find. That would've probably been from the uppermost material in the deposit. Colors were "bleached" and it was cracky, just like it had been in the freeze/thaw zone.
Your piece could well be from somewhere else, but I do have that "original" Howardite chunk here that strongly resembles it.
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Post by Peruano on Jan 14, 2022 13:52:02 GMT -5
I found a chunk of the original Howardite (Rattlesnake Jasper) in a lot of material passed to me from a friend whose father had a claim in Virgin Valley Nevada. It was quite a contrast from one side of the rough to the other with one having the characteristic scale pattern (chevrons?) versus the subtle browns and tans in diffuse bands. I still have a bit of the original but the best part was passed on to a friend with better lapidary and marketing skills than I have.
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Post by quartzilla on Jan 14, 2022 21:50:24 GMT -5
Interesting enough it looks like you can buy the claim. This is showing up on my Craigslist search under lapidary. This a scam??
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Post by quartzilla on Jan 14, 2022 22:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 14, 2022 22:32:43 GMT -5
quartzilla I think I could offer everything I own including this meat vessel I currently occupy and they would still kick me in a hole on the claim. Maybe I can buy an hour with my sample lol. Nice find, you going to get in on a bidding war?
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 14, 2022 22:33:54 GMT -5
Man just makes me want to go scourge the desert....so interesting that it's just lying there.
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Post by hummingbirdstones2 on Jan 15, 2022 9:42:11 GMT -5
We met the guys selling the new stuff in Quartzsite two years ago. They had some beautiful slabs. The best had a mix of the classic patterns and vivid reds.
They told me that not too long after they opened their claim up "the word got out" about the location, and it was hit hard by thieves. No reason to believe the listing isn't for a Howardite claim, but who knows what - if anything - might remain to be pulled out of it. Or what it would cost to get it out.
I don't know about the extent of the deposits, if more has been pulled out by deeper or more extensive digging, or anthing else. Those guys at Q seemed obviously frustrated while telling the story, though, so I had no suspicions that it was just a typical "marketing" ploy to help booth sales.
It would be nice to hear from someone with more knowledge of the situation as it has developed over the last two years.
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Post by Peruano on Jan 15, 2022 10:12:58 GMT -5
I have no recent information, but my recollection of my original research was that the exact source of the original material was open to dispute. Some folks said nw Nevada and some said lost in California. Either way it appeared that the new material was from a new site and not merely going deeper into the original source. Its pricey stuff and desirable, . . . even if a bit brittle from my experience.
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