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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 31, 2022 21:14:29 GMT -5
So, I received all this material from holajonathan . Some of the material was his added prize for winning the cab challenge...and some of the other material was in exchange for me wrapping some of his cabs. Well, for those of you who do wire-wrapping, you know you kinda have to be in the mood to wrap. Maybe mood isn't the right word...frame of mind might be better. I have several of his pieces wrapped, but still have some others to do. So, I've been feeling "guilty" getting on the cabbing machine to make cabs when I still have some "work" to do. However, I snuck these in...and will get back to wrapping tomorrow and Wednesday...since it's only supposed to be 9 degrees that day. (Which really doesn't matter since my cabber is inside! LOL) WARNING...there's a "few" pictures!  As always, thanks for taking a gander and comments and critiques are always welcome.  Hematite Jasper From South Africa  Amethyst Sage Agate  Serape Jasper  Cerro Pedernal Flint (Agate)  Polka Dot Agate  Mexican Lace - So this came from a "seam" type agate. I'm not sure if I was right or wrong, but I chose to cut the rock parallel with the fortification lines. I thought it might end up being like a piece of Fordite...and it kinda did. You can see the circles created by the different layers. I have several more preforms and I'm hoping they'll end up being even better than this one.  Condor Agate   |
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Jan 31, 2022 21:18:53 GMT -5
Nice, Jason! The Condor is kick-a$$.  |
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Post by CLErocks on Jan 31, 2022 21:29:08 GMT -5
Love that amethyst & unknown!
So pretty!
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Post by perkins17 on Jan 31, 2022 21:47:10 GMT -5
Nice job jasoninsd! Hematite jasper huh? Sounds like a really clean rock to cut! 😂 The Mexican place looks awesome with the center being the bots. |
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Post by rockjunquie on Jan 31, 2022 21:49:52 GMT -5
I love the polka dot agate, the crazy lace and the condor best... aw hell- I love them all.  |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 31, 2022 21:54:27 GMT -5
Nice, Jason! The Condor is kick-a$$.  Thanks Robin! I kept looking at the slabette and couldn't find a shape that wouldn't take away from the whole...so I left it whole! LOL - It's really big and it has an "inside swoop" too!  I had to get this worked, so I could get some of the material you guys sent put on dops! I cut the preforms the other day and can't wait to work it too! Love that amethyst & unknown! So pretty! Thanks Heather! I'm dying to know what the unknown is. It really has a nice contrast between the dark blue and the white. Nice job jasoninsd ! Hematite jasper huh? Sounds like a really clean rock to cut! 😂 The Mexican place looks awesome with the center being the bots. Thanks Perk! It actually wasn't all that messy. It bled a little red while working it, but not as messy as some of the other metals I've worked. I really can't wait to cab some of those other "layered" Mexican Lace. I'm dying to see if they'll turn out like they are in my mind! LOL |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 31, 2022 21:56:07 GMT -5
I love the polka dot agate, the crazy lace and the condor best... aw hell- I love them all. Thanks Tela! I've been dying to work some Polka Dot for awhile. It really was a fun piece. And that Condor...well I'd like to say I just "flew" through it, but that one took awhile! LOL |
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Post by Brian on Jan 31, 2022 22:01:21 GMT -5
Fabulous work! That Condor is amazing. Good call on leaving that as a live edge.
I gotta say that the Mexican lace is a fun one, too. I can’t wait to see how the other preforms turn out.
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Post by Son Of Beach on Jan 31, 2022 22:05:41 GMT -5
Awesome batch Jason. Really like what you did with the Mexican Lace and the Polka Dot is smooth
"The macros are done with my phone camera zommed into 3x with my loupe placed over the lens! Redneck...but it works! LOL"
This works? Well then....
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Post by holajonathan on Jan 31, 2022 22:15:10 GMT -5
Sweet cabs! The hematite jasper is from South Africa. Not sure if I noted that. The "unknown" is chert / flint / agate that Peruano collected and send me from the mountains of New Mexico. I traded him Ohio flint for this local variety. It takes a great polish, as you now know. The composition on the Polka Dot cab is very good! You got a great cab from a kind of boring slab, as I recall. If I sent you the rough that made this, then I'm sorry, but I made a mistake and you're going to have to send it back, including the cab. That is some funny shaped but high grade crazy lace. High grade because it is mined with a hydraulic hammer and bulldozer, and not with dynamite, like 90% of crazy lace. It's also got nice colors and sweet orbs, as you discovered. It does appear to be a thin seam agate formation which is not the normal way that crazy lace forms. I bought 100 pounds of it but haven't cut much. Seeing that cab, it might cut to the front of the slab saw line. These performs are from same piece of rough, I think, cut in the other direction. Look familiar? Yours is way better, so now I know how to cut mine in the future.  Finally, I had my fingers crossed that you weren't going to try to slap a template over that little condor agate slice. It was already a nature-made (big) preform, and you made the right call keeping it live edge. I know, because I made what is basically the same cab but not live edge, and yours looks better. Nice set of cabs. Now get back to wrapping. Just joking. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 31, 2022 22:41:20 GMT -5
Fabulous work! That Condor is amazing. Good call on leaving that as a live edge. I gotta say that the Mexican lace is a fun one, too. I can’t wait to see how the other preforms turn out. Thanks Brian! I've got a batch of new material this last week that I'm dying to get done...and the rest of those Mexican Lace pieces are just causing me a massive mental dilemma! LOL - I'll probably do those as a batch by themselves...soon...real soon! LOL Awesome batch Jason. Really like what you did with the Mexican Lace and the Polka Dot is smooth
"The macros are done with my phone camera zommed into 3x with my loupe placed over the lens! Redneck...but it works! LOL"
This works? Well then....
Thanks Chad! I've been using the "loupe" method for macros for awhile. They're a lot better with this new phone...but yeah...it works, so why not?! LOL Sweet cabs! The hematite jasper is from South Africa. Not sure if I noted that. The "unknown" is chert / flint / agate that Peruano collected and send me from the mountains of New Mexico. I traded him Ohio flint for this local variety. It takes a great polish, as you now know. The composition on the Polka Dot cab is very good! You got a great cab from a kind of boring slab, as I recall. If I sent you the rough that made this, then I'm sorry, but I made a mistake and you're going to have to send it back, including the cab. That is some funny shaped but high grade crazy lace. High grade because it is mined with a hydraulic hammer and bulldozer, and not with dynamite, like 90% of crazy lace. It's also got nice colors and sweet orbs, as you discovered. It does appear to be a thin seam agate formation which is not the normal way that crazy lace forms. I bought 100 pounds of it but haven't cut much. Seeing that cab, it might cut to the front of the slab saw line. These performs are from same piece of rough, I think, cut in the other direction. Look familiar? Yours is way better, so now I know how to cut mine in the future. Finally, I had my fingers crossed that you weren't going to try to slap a template over that little condor agate slice. It was already a nature-made (big) preform, and you made the right call keeping it live edge. I know, because I made what is basically the same cab but not live edge, and yours looks better. Nice set of cabs. Now get back to wrapping. Just joking. Thanks my friend! I've been waiting a few days to post these as I was hoping I'd have another wrap or two done by the time I posted these! LOL You did mention the Hematite Jasper was from South Africa - I'll edit the post to add that! Thanks for the reminder. That Unnamed Agate from Peruano is amazing! I didn't get a smooth surface coming off the 220, so I was fighting some "divots" on the 280. I spent awhile on the 280 until I just said to heck with it and took it back over to the 220 to smooth it out better. That was my fault, not any issue with the material! LOL - After that, it just kept looking better and better after each wheel! The Polka Dot was a fun one to work. I wasn't sure how that "paint" was going to turn out. To me, it looks just like a paint spill on the cab...but it polished too...which really is a cool effect! Okay...I was SO nervous when I was slabbing that Mexican Lace "seam" Agate! I wasn't sure if I had made the right decision or not...but I'm thinking I did! LOL - Some of the other preforms look like they might let the fortifications through on the dome, so I'm hoping for more of a "Fordite" effect with those. We'll see! I knew it was a super nice piece of rough as I didn't see the normal "fractures" throughout the piece. Knowing now how it was mined, it makes sense! Those two preforms you pictured definitely look like they're from the same piece! Now I'm dying to see what you're able to do with some of the other pieces. It definitely changes up the "normal" type patterns you find with the Mexican Lace pieces. Yeah...there was NO way I was going to break that Condor Agate up! I kept looking at it, and couldn't see anything other than leaving it "as is". It's really big, and I don't know for sure what I'm going to end up doing with it, but I'll figure something out one of these days! LOL - I almost went around the edge to make it a traditional girdle, but the more I looked at it, I thought what the hell. If I hadn't picked that for the contest theme this month, I'm not sure I would've left it as a live edge. Does that mean I'm influencing myself? LOL Alright...back to the grind...oops...I mean wire-wrapping! LOL |
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Post by opalpyrexia on Jan 31, 2022 23:01:52 GMT -5
Holy crumbling rough, Jason! Hands down champion winner: your Mexican Lace. Incredible...
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Post by jasoninsd on Jan 31, 2022 23:09:29 GMT -5
Holy crumbling rough, Jason! Hands down champion winner: your Mexican Lace. Incredible... Thanks Gary! I kept lowering the dome on that one. There was a "slice" of the soft red area that's in Crazy Lace right in the middle, and I didn't want that on the dome at all. So, I kept lowering the dome until the red was gone, leaving the white orbs on the top of the dome. You can see just the slightest "hint" of the red in the middle of a couple of the white orbs though. |
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Post by holajonathan on Feb 1, 2022 3:05:06 GMT -5
I now remember that Tom called your mystery rock Cerro Pedernal flint, from Cerro Pedernal, New Mexico. He said that the locals call it agate, so take your choice. This was my cab from a few months ago, along with the slabs:   |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 1, 2022 3:09:06 GMT -5
I now remember that Tom called your mystery rock Cerro Pedernal flint, from Cerro Pedernal, New Mexico. He said that the locals call it agate, so take your choice. This was my cab from a few months ago, along with the slabs: Gorgeous cab by the way! See, this is why I suck at identifying rocks! LOL - To me, this was an agate. I didn't get any indication of "flint" whatsoever while working it. We'll see if Tom ( Peruano) will chime in on this one. Thanks for remembering the ID on this one. |
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Post by holajonathan on Feb 1, 2022 3:48:43 GMT -5
I now remember that Tom called your mystery rock Cerro Pedernal flint, from Cerro Pedernal, New Mexico. He said that the locals call it agate, so take your choice. This was my cab from a few months ago, along with the slabs: Gorgeous cab by the way! See, this is why I suck at identifying rocks! LOL - To me, this was an agate. I didn't get any indication of "flint" whatsoever while working it. We'll see if Tom ( Peruano ) will chime in on this one. Thanks for remembering the ID on this one. I think it is sedimentary in origin, like Ohio flint. Tom should know that. |
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Post by Peruano on Feb 1, 2022 7:11:25 GMT -5
In Spanish Pedernal means flint. The rock comes from Cerro Pedernal, but then the Spanish guys who named it were not geologists. The material was commonly used by the Anasazi (Prepueblo) natives for weapons and tools, and hence has been studied much by archeologists. The archeologists call it chert (Pedernal chert). However, if you consult rockhound books and look at the way they describe the rocks around but further away from the ancient quarries on Cerro Pedernal, they all list abundant agate. I think the Pedernal chert is of sedimentary origin and some if not all of the stuff called agate is the same but more heavily oxidized and transported. It is commonly beige and pink, but reds and blacks blend into the primary colors and often are in association with some divits and crumbly sections that I can't explain other than being nature's imperfections. They produce waste or rationalizing they make my pieces more creative.
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Post by holajonathan on Feb 1, 2022 12:19:16 GMT -5
In Spanish Pedernal means flint. The rock comes from Cerro Pedernal, but then the Spanish guys who named it were not geologists. The material was commonly used by the Anasazi (Prepueblo) natives for weapons and tools, and hence has been studied much by archeologists. The archeologists call it chert (Pedernal chert). However, if you consult rockhound books and look at the way they describe the rocks around but further away from the ancient quarries on Cerro Pedernal, they all list abundant agate. I think the Pedernal chert is of sedimentary origin and some if not all of the stuff called agate is the same but more heavily oxidized and transported. It is commonly beige and pink, but reds and blacks blend into the primary colors and often are in association with some divits and crumbly sections that I can't explain other than being nature's imperfections. They produce waste or rationalizing they make my pieces more creative. A few of the pieces you sent me exhibit little to no divits or crumbly sections. This probably speaks more of your generosity in sharing some of your best finds than it does of the quality of the material in general. So called "Abiquiu Agate" is the rough being offered this year by the Feather Ridge Lapidary group for their annual tumbling competition. The rough I received from Feather Ridge is similar to what you sent me, but much lower quality and less colorful. I would describe most of it as chert. I just realized that the Abiquiu reservoir is pretty much at the base of Cerro Pedernal. So the "agate" strewn about at lake Abiquiu is probably the oxidized and transported material you mention. You can see photos of the material in this thread, pages 2 through 5. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Feb 1, 2022 21:44:42 GMT -5
In Spanish Pedernal means flint. The rock comes from Cerro Pedernal, but then the Spanish guys who named it were not geologists. The material was commonly used by the Anasazi (Prepueblo) natives for weapons and tools, and hence has been studied much by archeologists. The archeologists call it chert (Pedernal chert). However, if you consult rockhound books and look at the way they describe the rocks around but further away from the ancient quarries on Cerro Pedernal, they all list abundant agate. I think the Pedernal chert is of sedimentary origin and some if not all of the stuff called agate is the same but more heavily oxidized and transported. It is commonly beige and pink, but reds and blacks blend into the primary colors and often are in association with some divits and crumbly sections that I can't explain other than being nature's imperfections. They produce waste or rationalizing they make my pieces more creative. Tom, thank you so much for chiming in on this. It really does explain things! The last sentence is gold! LOL |
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Post by adrian65 on Feb 2, 2022 12:07:45 GMT -5
That Mexican lace looks like fish-eggs! And the Polka Dot is so beautiful! Such a crisp color contrast!
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