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Post by jamesp on Apr 1, 2022 6:55:40 GMT -5
Not till the end of the trip did it become apparent I had walked past a lot of pet wood. Was collecting quartzite and looking for artifacts. The outer layer of the wood was drab and the inside was colorful. Looked like a plain rock ! Took 24 year old nephew along. Wood and quartzite after hammering into tumbles:    This wood has an iridescence not visible in photo. Looks like copper.  The round rock is a pounding/grinding cobble. It has a divot on the back side to serve as a nutting stone. All onsite materials except the black chert came from 100 miles northwest of site.   Thanks for looking. |
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Post by jasoninsd on Apr 1, 2022 8:37:45 GMT -5
You really do have an amazing eye for this kind of stuff James!!
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Apr 1, 2022 9:37:54 GMT -5
The wood is beautiful, jamesp! Who knew? Make a little video with the piece of wood with iridescence so we can see the copper sparkle!  |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 1, 2022 10:51:02 GMT -5
You really do have an amazing eye for this kind of stuff James!! Lol, my sharp eyed 24 year old nephew went with me yesterday and didn't find a single arrowhead. I even pointed two of them laying on the ground to him and he still didn't see them. This is normal, lots of rock clutter on the ground adjacent to the points which hides them. He finds white, this one black and other reddish and totally greek to him. It takes a while to learn to spot them. I do have him addicted and he is a great cell phone map navigator and spots cleared land well. Perfect member for the team. Jason, you guys have fine agates and woods allowing beautiful points, you should try it out where it is allowed. Maybe timbered property where there are few rules. as found on ground   |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 1, 2022 10:59:57 GMT -5
The wood is beautiful, jamesp! Who knew? Make a little video with the piece of wood with iridescence so we can see the copper sparkle! Great idea Robin ! On the next trip I hope to find more of the copper colored material. Hope it is not a one-off... My Alabama buddy collects wood there but only finds pulpy white material. This material a step up for him. |
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Post by Sabre52 on Apr 1, 2022 21:11:15 GMT -5
Awesome finds James! That wood is very colorful and a nice selection of artifacts too. You know, I've never even looked for nutting stones and we have native pecan groves all over the ranch. One of the best campsites is right smack in the middle of a pecan grove. Dang nuts are so hard I often pick up a rock to crack them myself as the meats are much more flavorful than the wild hybrid papershells that are here. I am crazy for pecans. Love'em! I'm really going to have to pay attention to stuff other than flaked items when on my walks. You really do have a fine eye for artifacts.
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Post by hummingbirdstones on Apr 1, 2022 21:42:15 GMT -5
Awesome finds James! That wood is very colorful and a nice selection of artifacts too. You know, I've never even looked for nutting stones and we have native pecan groves all over the ranch. One of the best campsites is right smack in the middle of a pecan grove. Dang nuts are so hard I often pick up a rock to crack them myself as the meats are much more flavorful than the wild hybrid papershells that are here. I am crazy for pecans. Love'em! I'm really going to have to pay attention to stuff other than flaked items when on my walks. You really do have a fine eye for artifacts. I am so jealous you have pecan groves! I love pecans.  |
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Post by vegasjames on Apr 1, 2022 23:28:35 GMT -5
Some of that stuff on the left in the first pic looks like it could be opalized wood.
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Post by HankRocks on Apr 2, 2022 6:04:56 GMT -5
Awesome finds James! That wood is very colorful and a nice selection of artifacts too. You know, I've never even looked for nutting stones and we have native pecan groves all over the ranch. One of the best campsites is right smack in the middle of a pecan grove. Dang nuts are so hard I often pick up a rock to crack them myself as the meats are much more flavorful than the wild hybrid papershells that are here. I am crazy for pecans. Love'em! I'm really going to have to pay attention to stuff other than flaked items when on my walks. You really do have a fine eye for artifacts. (continuing the pecan tree discussion) Where I grew up on the East End of Houston, the lady across the railroad tracks had a native Pecan tree that produced small-soft shelled nuts. Never saw another tree like it anywhere. The tree must have been 70 or 80 years old in the 60's and is long since gone. The meat was very flavorful and full of oil, never have tasted better. I remember my Dad climbing the tree and shaking the limbs when the crop was ready, he would have been in his 50's when he did this. |
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Post by liveoak on Apr 2, 2022 6:19:43 GMT -5
Amazing Jim,
Did you find that pet wood in Alabama ?? |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 3, 2022 4:18:38 GMT -5
Amazing Jim,
Did you find that pet wood in Alabama ?? Several creeks in Macon County Alabama Patty. Certainly the Chewlaca Creek and it's tributaries. That drainage is complicated. I sampled so many creeks that day I am not certain which wood types came from which creek and some of them are not named on the maps. But all were in Macon County. Will verify on return trips. I use GAIA maps ap and turn the trail recorder on since the smaller creeks are not named. I also use very old maps and have to convert the names and shapes of the creeks to define them. Map reference is from Indians and Artifacts of the Southeast by Bert W. Beirer. Amazing book. Many maps show mound locations. Lol, check out the early names on said old maps spelled in Native dialect. Most are now abbreviated depending on map.: This might represent a quarter of the larger creeks in Macon County: Chewockeleehatchee Sawacklahutchee Opintlocco Tumpkeehatchee Cubahatchee Oakfuskee Chingwapee Cohcochak Tolockela |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 3, 2022 4:48:39 GMT -5
Awesome finds James! That wood is very colorful and a nice selection of artifacts too. You know, I've never even looked for nutting stones and we have native pecan groves all over the ranch. One of the best campsites is right smack in the middle of a pecan grove. Dang nuts are so hard I often pick up a rock to crack them myself as the meats are much more flavorful than the wild hybrid papershells that are here. I am crazy for pecans. Love'em! I'm really going to have to pay attention to stuff other than flaked items when on my walks. You really do have a fine eye for artifacts. Some of that stuff on the left in the first pic looks like it could be opalized wood. This site is littered with collected materials Mel. There is exposed glassy milk quartz seams next to campsite. The large canoe-able creek flanking the entire length of the 200 acre tract is full of colored quartzite cobbles that had been carried up the hill. Then there is black chert from 120 miles NW and coastal chert from 80 miles south. Both very occasional. Chunks of viable flake stock of milk quartz and quartzite is scattered everywhere on the 4 small ridges where the campsites were located. The heavy log skidders damaged most of the artifacts as usual. Not to mention the farmer's plow discs before that. Of course the camps are the flat spots and those spots are chosen by the timber operations to debark and de-limb their dang trees. The only reason I am finding unbroken artifacts is because this site has laid dormant for a few years and deep erosion has uncovered those items below the plow zone. Maybe only 4% of the area of the camps. However when the loggers cut the top soil to reach hard clay for their logging roads they left the artifact bearing top soil in loose windrowed piles along the roads. Those are begging to be sifted. May pursue that route... The wood was a surprise James. And found at the end of the trip. Will go back and do a detailed search on it. My guess is that it came from a seam of old quartzite pebbles noticeable about half way up the bank on many of the creeks in that area. I have not figured out that geology yet. Or even if the wood is in that seam of pebbles. There is little to no limestone and few other fossils go figure. The quartzite is compressed/heated ocean sands, that is for sure. |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 3, 2022 5:04:30 GMT -5
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Post by liveoak on Apr 3, 2022 5:55:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the confirmation jamesp.
Much rather go on an adventure rock hunting then stay here for the relatives visit .
Sigh .
You're reports are certainly getting us motivated.  Thank you
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Post by liveoak on Apr 3, 2022 7:04:21 GMT -5
We'll have to keep our eye out for your referenced book- a little steep in price at this point.
I've always found that planning trips via maps & references a nice added part of planning an adventure. Glad to hear you're having so much fun out there !
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Post by jamesp on Apr 3, 2022 8:00:18 GMT -5
We'll have to keep our eye out for your referenced book- a little steep in price at this point.
I've always found that planning trips via maps & references a nice added part of planning an adventure. Glad to hear you're having so much fun out there !
It is well worn. Must have bought it when it was just published. Not many compilations like it. |
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Post by parfive on Apr 3, 2022 13:18:47 GMT -5
Check out fox squirrels, they are the boone to pecan orchards in Georgia. They come in all colors. All are giant with large appetites. The pecan industry has not been good to them. [Daniel scratches head . . . checks dictionary . . . scratches head again.] [Then his hat starts twitchin’ . . . ] Ahh . . . you prolly met my cousin Dan’l Bane.  |
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Post by jamesp on Apr 4, 2022 5:55:26 GMT -5
Check out fox squirrels, they are the boone to pecan orchards in Georgia. They come in all colors. All are giant with large appetites. The pecan industry has not been good to them. [Daniel scratches head . . . checks dictionary . . . scratches head again.] [Then his hat starts twitchin’ . . . ] Ahh . . . you prolly met my cousin Dan’l Bane. Gimme a hint Rich. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Apr 4, 2022 6:04:06 GMT -5
jamespI believe Rich was trying to say, in his inimitable way, that fox squirrels are a "bane" to the pecan orchards of Georgia, not "boone."
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Post by jamesp on Apr 4, 2022 6:37:37 GMT -5
jamespI believe Rich was trying to say, in his inimitable way, that fox squirrels are a "bane" to the pecan orchards of Georgia, not "boone." Lol. Boone/bane close enough dang darn it. Thanks rockpickerforever, why didn't I see that ! Then I had to look up the definition of 'inimitable lol. English never was my niche obviously. parfive Your idiosyncratic rebuke was both appreciated and effective. My literature teacher in high school used to challenge me with such subtleties when I was stoned out of my mind. Apparently her approach and the substance abuse left me mentally crippled. I survived, life has been good nonetheless . |
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