notjustone
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Post by notjustone on Jul 11, 2017 10:36:50 GMT -5
Freight quote from Lampus came in at $500 to Atlanta. My shipper wanted $1100. Lampus gets the big discounts due to their volume. Before I dumped the bags I would first try to pack the existing bag in a LFRB. That is some dusty heavy stuff to re-bag. Shipping in 5 gallon buckets increases shipping costs. Just my 2 cents. I only mentioned it b4 you said quote was same for bagged vs unbagged as a possible extra savings. not to mention at same price even if you had to tear open bags and repackage its already weighed. 5 gal buckets were only mentioned as that's how I shipped it to my car lol.
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notjustone
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Post by notjustone on Jul 11, 2017 9:49:23 GMT -5
my supply was in 5 gallon pails. when I sent some to james my intention was to send him 10 lbs to try. but the day I told him I would send it out I got called in early and didn't make it to the post office. while at work someone stabbed a bag. I literally ran up and shoveled up 100 or so pounds as the guy was coming up the isleway with the sweeper. long story short. I ghetto packaged 2 hefty garbage bags in a lfrb (the strechy force flex kind) and dumped 1 pail in. the bags kept it from going all the way into the corners but it was still pretty full. weighed in at just under 50 lbs at the post office. it must be less dense because of the bigger chunks but in my non expert opinion I do not believe a 50 lbs bag will fit without some serious packing it in. however if a larger lawn and leaf bag were used which allowed it to go all the way into the corners 50 lbs would easily fit in a lfrb.
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Post by notjustone on Jul 11, 2017 7:18:53 GMT -5
james did they offer it in the supersack? why pay for 50 lbs bags when you will likely have to tear them open to fit lfrb (which would probably be the cheapest shipping option. for the size of most of your end users orders) 200 lbs orders would be roughly 4 lfrb. that would put shipping at under 80 dollars per order. doubt you could load an empty pallet on a truck for that.
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notjustone
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Post by notjustone on Jul 10, 2017 23:10:05 GMT -5
I'm not sayin its right but my ar-12 barrel has 3 hose clamps end to end around that ring that sticks out that the lid goes in.
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Post by notjustone on Jul 7, 2017 21:04:58 GMT -5
Cadillac arrangement. Infinity variable feed rate. infinity variable chain drive that has no teeth, relies on friction of wrap(PIV CVT) looks like a snowmobile clutch lol.
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notjustone
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Post by notjustone on Jul 5, 2017 18:29:41 GMT -5
my wife has a Nikon d3100 and a canon rebel t3 damned if I can take a good closeup with either of them. could just be me and my total ineptness with cameras.
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Post by notjustone on Jul 3, 2017 14:56:49 GMT -5
notjustone You could easily run the bulk through about a window screen and separate the chunks from the 20-30-40-50-60 and smaller grit. Pulverize the chunks if so desired. I did the 1.5 cups bulk + .5 cups clay two days ago. Almost a triple dose of grit... Stuck ear up to all three 6 pounders and they are grinding with a perfect sound. (slurry not overly thick yet) When one gets quiet it is time to make a slurry adjustment (and grit addition if slurry is smooth and particle free). I think ill keep running it as is . the price is right and I get enough out of woody to fill the uv-10 every week.
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notjustone
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Post by notjustone on Jul 1, 2017 22:39:06 GMT -5
I'm just waiting to see that polished near sphere
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Post by notjustone on Jul 1, 2017 16:35:11 GMT -5
no we don't use anything like sulfer at work I just noticed the smell especially when burping a barrel.
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Post by notjustone on Jul 1, 2017 15:49:23 GMT -5
is the odor almost like sulfer water?
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Post by notjustone on Jun 29, 2017 7:49:54 GMT -5
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Post by notjustone on Jun 29, 2017 7:30:04 GMT -5
ive never added clay, kitty litter or any other thickener so cant say for sure but wonder if thickeners will increase cushioning which may be detrimental to breaking down the bigger chunks. hence negating the benefits of the big chunks breaking down slowly.
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Post by notjustone on Jun 29, 2017 7:16:22 GMT -5
ok I was wrong when I posted b4 it was 96 percent. the tag says "90% silicon carbide grain" in 3000 lbs "supersacks" on a pallet. r.i. lampus company. if you go to this page and click the markets tab go to bottom. www.lampus.com/alloywe don't use briquettes we add the ferromanganese, ferrosilicone, carbon, molybendinum. copper ect ourselves at different ratios depending on the job. Looks like a phone call may answer the cost question. I'll send them an email to break ice and see if I can find out some cost info. 3000 pound super sack may be minimum order. A freight item. assume ~ $200 to $400 in freight cost. Possibly less since they ship bulk on a regular basis. I got your box. I'll do devil's advocate. Instead of adding 1 to 1.5 cups of clay for a slurry thickener, and .5 tp 1 cup of SiC 30 for a 6 pound barrel... I will add 2 to 2.5 cups straight bulk SiC and see if I can make a pure SiC super grind slurry/abrasive brew. This stuff has a mix of particles from 500 to 100 to 50 to 8 and bigger. Could result in a longer time release break down and a lot more surface grinding email: I am interested in a 3000 pound super sack of 90% SiC shipped motor freight to dock in Atlanta Georgia. Please quote. Thank you Jim Price firepitsatlanta.com the fines will make a slurry fast. so not sure you even need clay at all. 2 cups in a 6 lbs barrel wow. I run 1 cup in my 8" barrel. that's going to be a thick arse slurry after a few days.
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Post by notjustone on Jun 28, 2017 10:41:52 GMT -5
it wont hurt to run in coarse if there is any pitting or chipping coarse will take this out. remember them beach rounded cobbles got that way from sliding over and slamming into other rocks. no doubt some have chips and bruises that don't stand out as well against a dull background. remember when people say coarse grit shapes the stone it also means it removes divots pits fine cracks ect so realy it should be coarse grit shapes the stone as well as removing defects and providing a good base on which to polish. any imperfection that goes past coarse will remain as every grit past coarse will only remove scratches left by previous grits.
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Post by notjustone on Jun 28, 2017 8:09:31 GMT -5
rock tumblers are made to run continuously. running 8 hours a day would make a 1 month tumble a 3 month ordeal. and some of us leave rocks in course for a month or more before moving on.
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Post by notjustone on Jun 27, 2017 23:07:50 GMT -5
ok I was wrong when I posted b4 it was 96 percent. the tag says "90% silicon carbide grain" in 3000 lbs "supersacks" on a pallet. r.i. lampus company. if you go to this page and click the markets tab go to bottom. www.lampus.com/alloywe don't use briquettes we add the ferromanganese, ferrosilicone, carbon, molybendinum. copper ect ourselves at different ratios depending on the job.
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Post by notjustone on Jun 27, 2017 22:30:48 GMT -5
Nice to see a picture of Col. But no one commented on the two in the background? yeah I think cliff mentioned something about a muffintop in sweats. and for the record its 3 people standing in that group not 2. 4 if you count the guy behind his left shoulder.
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Post by notjustone on Jun 27, 2017 22:09:42 GMT -5
ill take box 1
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Post by notjustone on Jun 27, 2017 12:01:50 GMT -5
So this leads to a question. What's the cheapest grit we can get? Can you buy a hundred pounds of block or lump and give it a quick crushing yourself, with hammer or simple home-made crusher? If around a buck and a half is the cheapest we can get graded SiC grit, 55 lbs at a time, what's the very bottom number for us few maniacs who don't blink at laying in a couple hundred pounds of the stuff? I don't know the bottom line it is bulk sic they use where I work in a foundry. added directly to the furnace. I brought some home when they put a fork through the bag and dumped a bunch on the floor before they went through with the sweeper. I sent some to james as he loves to experiment with new and different stuff. heres his original post with some pics. forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/78863/raw-form-coarse-notjustone-cheap
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Post by notjustone on Jun 26, 2017 11:03:40 GMT -5
Me too on the time release deal. Pretty sure the get brick sized chunks at manufacture, then run it thru crushers. Man that stuff makes the slurry blacker than normal. Notice that ? No matter. Adding grit every 2-3 days does make you manage the slurry thickness. I just pour some thick slurry off and add water when adding grit every 2-3 days. Clean out after 3-4 grit additions/2 weeks. That way the older grit additions get more time with the rocks for what it's worth. I will use your bulk stuff at a higher dose rate than graded 30 grit. And maybe supplement with the 30 grit. the big chunks that don't go through the strainer when I'm cleaning out i just throw back in for another round. most of them do break eventually but after a couple months of running this stuff I'm noticing a few chunks that are actually starting to round off. I'm all about letting it run longer and letting it break down farther. less work for the ao-80 to clean up later. but I'm starting to think its getting all the real work done in the first 2 days then after that just tumbling finer for the other 5. I'm gonna add some more grit to the 2 barrels i loaded Saturday today. then compare them this weekend to the 2 i loaded sunday without grit additions. i really see no negative effects of the big chunks like bigger gouges so that's a plus.
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