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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2013 15:30:24 GMT -5
hahaha I can't even keep this thing running when I switch it over. I am thinking that a little practice will get me there. I have to kick the gas off and let it run out of gas before it will go on propane. Then I have to turn the gas on early so the carb will fill up when I switch to gas. Right now I have a manual valve on the gas so I have to open the hood. Haven't figured out how to that going down the highway. lol That I am not going to practice.
Jim
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Post by jamesp on Nov 11, 2013 16:12:22 GMT -5
You could supplement with ground up Toyota trucks. However i do own a Tundra and at 300,000 miles and no signs of aging i am very happy w/that truck. I am shooting for 500,00 on original engine.
That is interesting that gas is so efficient on pulling hills. I respect that project a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2013 19:33:03 GMT -5
Jeeze Louize that was an expensive undertaking. I went and filled up the propane tank today. Holly crap that is a big tank. I thought it was a 70 gallon tank and filled to 80 percent it would take plus or minus 55 gallon. There was a little bit left in the tank and it took 71.7 gallons to fill it up. Yes, SEVENTY ONE POINT SEVEN GALLONS. At $2.80 a gallon it cost $210.80. TWO HUNDRED TEN DOLLARS AND EIGHTY CENTS. It was only about $33.00 less than than what it would have cost me for gasoline.
The guy that filled me up told me that it is a lot cheaper at their sister store 45 miles away because the sister store hauls the propane from there to where I bought it causing the cost to be way higher. Would driving 1.5 hours there and back have saved me any money? I don't know but if I get ten percent less mileage with the propane I will be even or loosing money.
Maybe when I get someplace that is not so desolate I can buy propane at the source without having to drive ninety miles to get the best price. Where I went today was only eight miles away.
This is not the way I was hoping things would turn out but looking on the good side I now have 108 gallons of fuel and even with bad mileage I can drive 1080 miles before I have to fill up again. That is one third of the way across the USA.
Jim
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Post by jamesp on Dec 13, 2013 10:18:32 GMT -5
I do a lot of stuff Jim. You know i am or was very active. The more you do the more you mess up.
I would rather do 100 units of forward and 10 units of backward
Than 10 units of forward and 1 unit of backward
You did all that yourself. Take it to a tuner and see if it is running to rich-too lean-could it be leaking when running. Sounds like you are sending propane out the exhaust pipe.
I will build the dirty/hard part and hire the pro to do the final tweaks/adjustments.
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Post by Rockoonz on Dec 13, 2013 11:55:14 GMT -5
Jim,
Sounds like it isn't on the budget for you right now but down the road when you're settled in somewhere for awhile and have a few bucks you may consider looking for a throttle body injection setup to replace the carb, that way you switch over by closing the solenoid at the injector instead of at the fuel lines. That will reduce the amount of fuel mix on change over. I suppose a carb with a anti dieseling solenoid to shut off the fuel at the jets would accomplish the same thing and keep your float bowl full.
Lee
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 16:35:43 GMT -5
I guess I did not explain myself correctly AGAIN. That was my first fill up. When I had them put propane in before I just got twenty gallons because if there was a problem I did not want to have a full tank to deal with. I had driven about 125 to 150 miles on that first twenty gallons so I do not know how much was in the tank when I had him fill it. I am thinking that it must be a 75 gallon usable at 90 percent full. Total to the top full must be around 85 gallon. It would be hard to tell if there is a small difference in gas and propane performance but I can not tell any difference just by driving it both ways.
When I get to a warm place I am going to clean the paint off of the tag that has the description of the tank.
I do need to get in and get the carburetor rebuilt to help my gasoline mileage but that is just not in the cards right now. I have a spare carb that I will take in for repair then just swap them out.
I am now getting some not good noise when braking so I may have to do a brake job before I roll. I knew that I would not get out of here unscathed. lol
Jim
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 16:41:49 GMT -5
BTW I had to drive to the sister store 40 miles away today and propane there is $2.50 a gallon, thirty cents cheaper there. Twenty one bucks cheaper for a fill up. If I would have known that I had to make a trip anyway I would have waited. SIL
Jim
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Post by marinedad on Dec 13, 2013 22:03:41 GMT -5
nice project jim, what year is that? my son and I rebuilt an 86 years ago. inline 6.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 22:32:00 GMT -5
This is an 85. It had a 351 that had a bad bottom end so I swapped in a 302.
Jim
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2013 15:28:40 GMT -5
yes, getting the 'L' out of there does require doing it unscathed. See you in 5 weeks!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 10:27:14 GMT -5
Jim, Sounds like it isn't on the budget for you right now but down the road when you're settled in somewhere for awhile and have a few bucks you may consider looking for a throttle body injection setup to replace the carb, that way you switch over by closing the solenoid at the injector instead of at the fuel lines. That will reduce the amount of fuel mix on change over. I suppose a carb with a anti dieseling solenoid to shut off the fuel at the jets would accomplish the same thing and keep your float bowl full. Lee I was not aware of those options but they sound like it would make it easy. The last time I switched from gas to propane I turned off the gas solenoid, waited for ten or fifteen seconds then switched on the propane. It was seamless so I think it is just a matter of getting over the learning curve. I did a cold start on propane test yesterday morning when it was 12 degrees. I pushed the accelerator down about half way and in three or four turns it was running. It started easier on propane than it does on gas. I was pretty surprise because I had heard that it is next to impossible to start on propane when it is cold. Jim |
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Post by drocknut on Dec 23, 2013 13:10:01 GMT -5
Didn't see this thread until today, guess I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes ;-). Looks like quite the project and sounds like you are very handy to have around. Although I would have replaced the headliner with rock fabric and go with the sucor creek blue but whatever floats your boat. I look forward to seeing the completed project when you make your way south.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 14:16:47 GMT -5
Didn't see this thread until today, guess I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes ;-). Looks like quite the project and sounds like you are very handy to have around. Although I would have replaced the headliner with rock fabric and go with the sucor creek blue but whatever floats your boat. I look forward to seeing the completed project when you make your way south. Oh no, I am in trouble now, sticking my head in the sand snow. It is a far from completed project. It has come a long way though. Find a cloth with pictures of rocks on it for me.  Jim |
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Post by drocknut on Dec 26, 2013 12:17:21 GMT -5
Jim, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it...lol. No promises but ya never know.
Now get your head out of the snow because your ears will freeze...lol.
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