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Post by rockjunquie on Mar 15, 2016 16:29:06 GMT -5
I have some Imori Victoria stone and it looks very much like it-- although it could be a rose, I'm just sayin'.
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 15, 2016 17:20:21 GMT -5
I have some Imori Victoria stone and it looks very much like it-- although it could be a rose, I'm just sayin'. Thanks, Tela. For the $5 I paid for it, it's not that big of deal. I will accept whatever the verdict is, lol. It would be nice to know if I really scored (looks like Victoria stone cabs are going for around $95 to $100 on Etsy). Maybe this will get me wrapping again!
Going to a prospecting club meeting tonight. Hopefully, they will have the speaker that was scheduled for last month (he was a no show). He is in one of the other San Diego area rock clubs, and affiliated with one of the local gemstone mines (pay to sift tailings  ). He is a knowledgeable person, I'll bring the stone in question and get his opinion!
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Post by Pat on Mar 15, 2016 17:38:30 GMT -5
Victoriastone on eBay were over $150! Lots in the$200/300 range.
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Post by Roger on Mar 15, 2016 22:12:24 GMT -5
Nice find rockpickerforever. That is Dr. Iimori's Victoria Stone. It is very cool stuff! Tommy I have a few slabs of Fischer Stone, though it isn't the best quality. I haven't cabbed any yet. Do you have a photo of your slab? |
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Post by Tommy on Mar 15, 2016 22:29:56 GMT -5
Nice find rockpickerforever. That is Dr. Iimori's Victoria Stone. It is very cool stuff! Tommy I have a few slabs of Fischer Stone, though it isn't the best quality. I haven't cabbed any yet. Do you have a photo of your slab? Congratulations Jean! nice find  Roger - I did take a photo of it but I think I'll start a new thread instead of continuing my hijack of Jean's thread. |
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 16, 2016 0:37:55 GMT -5
It certainly looks like Victoria Stone to me Jean. I have several slabs of various colors I've hoarded for a lot of years and your find looks exactly like them and cut stones I've seen. I plan to cut mine when I get back on my feet a bit more.
As for Fischer Stone, it's dyed natural snakeskin agate that Dr. Fischer was able to modify by inducing dendrites using electricity and copper chloride. So I guess you could call it a half man-made stone. As I recall the process dates to the l960s or 70s.
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Post by vegasjames on Mar 16, 2016 2:57:07 GMT -5
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 16, 2016 4:10:35 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for taking the time to give me your input and thoughts on this. I am still not sure.
I showed it to several rock people at the prospecting club meeting last night. Three of them did not know what it was, two others thought it was fiber optic glass.
I will bring it with me to an upcoming show that has people ID-ing gems, get their opinion. They can get an RI on it, should be able to tell if it is glass or not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 9:26:20 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for taking the time to give me your input and thoughts on this. I am still not sure. I showed it to several rock people at the prospecting club meeting last night. Three of them did not know what it was, two others thought it was fiber optic glass. I will bring it with me to an upcoming show that has people ID-ing gems, get their opinion. They can get an RI on it, should be able to tell if it is glass or not. Fiber-optic glass? Losers. It's Victoria. Roger says so. So do I. |
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 16, 2016 13:49:43 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for taking the time to give me your input and thoughts on this. I am still not sure. I showed it to several rock people at the prospecting club meeting last night. Three of them did not know what it was, two others thought it was fiber optic glass. I will bring it with me to an upcoming show that has people ID-ing gems, get their opinion. They can get an RI on it, should be able to tell if it is glass or not. Jean, keep in mind that Victoria Stone is not often seen by gemologists due to its scarcity so even a show ID could be mistaken. It may help you to know that its properties are Mohs hardness 6, S.G. of 3.02 and refractive index of 1.62. Those numbers will give you a baseline for comparison. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 16, 2016 14:17:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, Rick! I'll print that out and be sure to take it with me.
I didn't even think about most people not being familiar with it. I guess if I wasn't on the RTH forum, I would have never heard of it before either!
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Post by Tommy on Mar 16, 2016 15:19:08 GMT -5
There was a vendor at the PowWow selling fiber optic glass and it looked similar but more solid color and not shimmery ... but I didn't really look at it that closely - and I've never held victoria stone in my hand. I agree with Scott... It's Victoria. Roger says so. So do I. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 15:26:22 GMT -5
There was a vendor at the PowWow selling fiber optic glass and it looked similar but more solid color and not shimmery ... but I didn't really look at it that closely - and I've never held victoria stone in my hand. I agree with Scott... It's Victoria. Roger says so. So do I. Imori stone has sprays of crystals. I have held fiber-optic glass spheres in my hands. They seem to have very fine fibers in parallel that cause a chatoyancy. Similar to Tigereye, but much finer fibers. Never large sprays of crystals in any I have held or seen online. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 16, 2016 15:32:46 GMT -5
Scott, that what I was thinking - parallel fibers! But this stone does seem to have more finer sprays than one I have seen with larger "chunks" for lack of a better word.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 15:36:38 GMT -5
Scott, that what I was thinking - parallel fibers! But this stone does seem to have more finer sprays than one I have seen with larger "chunks" for lack of a better word. Look at vegasjames' pics of slabs. Can you visualize something similar, or exactly the same coming from any one of his slabs? I can. Keep in mind your piece is only a tiny portion of a slab. You knew what it was when you bought it. That is why you spent 500% of your normal cab price! (Kidding). But you did know. |
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Post by rockpickerforever on Mar 16, 2016 15:54:55 GMT -5
You are too funny, Scott.  |
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Post by orrum on Mar 16, 2016 16:24:30 GMT -5
Guy named Kerry n his sidekick Susan cab a lot of it at Desert Gardens in Quartzsite. It looks like that! There is some newer stuff around that a gemologist at Q and his pardner are making now. It's very good stuff when it works but it fails to solidify dependably. It is actually made from true gemstones mixed up together. Immori's son also can't get it to set up consistently. Yours could be Dr Immori or one of the few successful attempts since I'd death.
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Post by snowmom on Mar 20, 2016 6:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 13:02:41 GMT -5
I just read their treatise on imori stone. They claim to be one of the largest Victoria stone jewelers, but then denigrate at glass. I fail to see the reasoning behind this. They do say Victoria stone feels "oily". Perhaps " waxy"? This is a term used to describe many rocks. I have handled a fair amount of leaded crystal. My mother collected it when I was a kid. Recently she passed and I had my hands on it again. If anything it feels less slick than regular glass. Not oily or waxy at all. Glass is amorphous. It has zero crystals. If it's glass how does Victoria stone have crystals? rockpickerforever Jean, you guys have a rock show at which a geologist has one of the handheld x-ray fluorescence spectrometers. If it hasn't already passed having him analyze would be helpful. |
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Post by gemfeller on Mar 20, 2016 13:37:49 GMT -5
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